The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted April 16, 2008 I'm not going to restart the argument over the current ECW title. I've left those views in a previous thread. but I will say that including anything from the NWA title in between the time WCW cast it off and TNA put it back on TV is another time period I'd cut out. Severn would go long stretches without defending it...it had no TV or ppv exposure anywhere...and if that's not enough... Mike Rapada. Twice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chui 0 Report post Posted April 18, 2008 Angle's "IWGP reign" doesn't count, because HE WASN'T IWGP CHAMPION. That belt he carried around didn't mean anything more than the belt I wear to keep my pants up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted April 18, 2008 Why? Brock won the belt from Nagata in a match sanctioned by NJPW. Just because he refused to lose it to NJPW (over payments or something), doesn't make it any less valid. It's like saying Ric Flair's WCW title when he jumped to the WWF wasn't a real WCW title. It's not like Brock procured that thing out of the trash and lost it to Angle. Just because a promotion decides to pretend it didn't exist, creating a new one to give to NJPW, doesn't diminish the validity of the belt. Now if you're talking about the result of Kurt Angle defeating Brock Lesnar in a match not sanctioned by the "owner" of the belt making him an invalid champion, then nevermind. Although I will point out NJPW apparently cared enough to try and successfully get an unification match between Nagata and Angle, so clearly it meant something to them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chui 0 Report post Posted April 18, 2008 Lesnar was officially stripped of the IWGP Heavyweight Title on 7/15/06. Lesnar lost the physical belt to Angle. Now if you want to consider the bullshit "IWGP 3rd Belt" as a World title, that's fine, but Angle was never the IWGP Heavyweight Champion. And I'm just nitpicking, but Lesnar won the IWGP title from Kazuyuki Fujita, and Angle's unification match was against Shinsuke Nakamura. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites