Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2008 He's a legit 6'9. And he'll probably grow to 6'10. His game is centered around the basket. He's strong enough to play in the post, and he's not quick enough to play defense on SFs. You make it sound like he's Kevin Durant. He's like KG's size just a few inches shorter, and KG does fine posting up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2008 If by posting up you mean taking jumpers, then yeah. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2008 And what I mean by that is that Drew Gooden is a Kevin Garnett type "post" player. yeah, they have their back turned to the basket when they catch the ball, but they are jump shooter or face up, go by the guy players. Niether are the type of post players that you need in Chicago because neither actually demand a double. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2008 Beasley won't demand a double?! You're crazy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smartly Pretty 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2008 Pax knows he can't draft Tyler Hansbrough, right? I will not renege my stance that this whole system of 1000 number permutations with weighted probabilities taking place in a secret conference room is stupid, and they should just draw index cards out of a sombrero in plain view. No, that's insanely dumb. The draft is designed to help the worst teams get better, and if the team picking number one has twice as many wins as the team picking number two, there's something fucking wrong with the system. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheOriginalOrangeGoblin 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2008 This is funny, Beasley and Rose will go to 2 teams who could probably compete for the playoffs (in the Bulls case maybe more) as it is. Rich get richer... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naiwf 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2008 D'Antoni choosing the Bulls over the Knicks looks even more ridiculous now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2008 Beasley won't demand a double?! You're crazy. I mean, dumb coaches will double him, but no coach worth a damn. To get doubled you need to be able to dominate. Which is why guys like Garnett doesn't get doubled, because he isn't dominant. Don't get me wrong, I don't think that guy is in this draft. But Beasley isn't going to be able to back down any PF's in the NBA. He just doesn't have the bulk. He is going to have to face up, take fade aways, and basically out athlete people. And that is the absolute opposite of what the Bulls need. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Craig Th 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2008 Wait, how the hell did the Bulls get the #1 pick? After the Bobcats got #9, the guy said this puts the Bulls in the top 3. How'd that work out? Um... I THINK that they finished with the 9th worst record, and they only lottery off the top three picks, so once you didn't see Chicago at nine, you knew they had one of those lottery'd picks. That doesn't make any sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. S£im Citrus 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2008 Wait, how the hell did the Bulls get the #1 pick? After the Bobcats got #9, the guy said this puts the Bulls in the top 3. How'd that work out? Um... I THINK that they finished with the 9th worst record, and they only lottery off the top three picks, so once you didn't see Chicago at nine, you knew they had one of those lottery'd picks. That doesn't make any sense. Sure it does: the actual lottery is to find out who the top three picks will go to. All the rest go in reverse record order. Chicago had the ninth-worst record in the league, which means that: 1) They could have had pick# 1, 2 or 3 by "winning" the lottery, 2) They could have had pick# 10, 11 or 12 in the near-mathematical impossible scenario that three of the teams that finished with better records all "won" the lottery, or 3) They would have had pick# 9. There was no possible way for them to finish with the 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 13th or 14th picks; they would have either won the lottery, or they would have ended up with the pick their record dictated... unless, as mentioned above, three of the teams that finished 10-14 ended up with the 1st, 2nd and 3rd picks. Which is almost impossible. Clear as mud? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jorge Gorgeous 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2008 Wait, how the hell did the Bulls get the #1 pick? After the Bobcats got #9, the guy said this puts the Bulls in the top 3. How'd that work out? Um... I THINK that they finished with the 9th worst record, and they only lottery off the top three picks, so once you didn't see Chicago at nine, you knew they had one of those lottery'd picks. That doesn't make any sense. Just because you don't get it doesn't mean it doesn't make any sense. Unless you're talking about the idea as a whole not being logical... in which case... meh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2008 Wait, how the hell did the Bulls get the #1 pick? After the Bobcats got #9, the guy said this puts the Bulls in the top 3. How'd that work out? Um... I THINK that they finished with the 9th worst record, and they only lottery off the top three picks, so once you didn't see Chicago at nine, you knew they had one of those lottery'd picks. That doesn't make any sense. What doesn't make sense? Only the top three picks are lotteried. So everything from 4-14 is descending order from team's record. ie if the worst team in the league doesn't get a top 3 pick, they get #4. Who do the Bulls currently have at point? It'd be cool to have D-Rose play his home team Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. S£im Citrus 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2008 Hinrich Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Craig Th 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2008 Wait, how the hell did the Bulls get the #1 pick? After the Bobcats got #9, the guy said this puts the Bulls in the top 3. How'd that work out? Um... I THINK that they finished with the 9th worst record, and they only lottery off the top three picks, so once you didn't see Chicago at nine, you knew they had one of those lottery'd picks. That doesn't make any sense. Just because you don't get it doesn't mean it doesn't make any sense. Unless you're talking about the idea as a whole not being logical... in which case... meh. It didn't make sense to me because I didn't know just the top 3 were the lottery. I thought there was more to it. That is all. Thanks. Who do the Bulls currently have at point? It'd be cool to have D-Rose play his home team Wilbon was all about that on PTI. But it didn't make much sense because even though Hinrich had a horrible year, he isn't that bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Desensitized Report post Posted May 21, 2008 Pax knows he can't draft Tyler Hansbrough, right? I will not renege my stance that this whole system of 1000 number permutations with weighted probabilities taking place in a secret conference room is stupid, and they should just draw index cards out of a sombrero in plain view. No, that's insanely dumb. The draft is designed to help the worst teams get better, and if the team picking number one has twice as many wins as the team picking number two, there's something fucking wrong with the system. The draft is designed to help bad teams get better, but the lottery is designed to prevent teams from tanking for draft position. Right now, there's a lottery to determine the top three picks, but it still rewards teams for tanking by giving them a better chance to get a top pick. It's a compromise that totally undermines the premise of having a lottery in the first place. They got it right the first time: just draw the teams in reverse order. Either you just give the worst team the first pick and so on down the line, or you go back to a true lottery. Pick a lane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Desensitized Report post Posted May 21, 2008 Pax knows he can't draft Tyler Hansbrough, right? I will not renege my stance that this whole system of 1000 number permutations with weighted probabilities taking place in a secret conference room is stupid, and they should just draw index cards out of a sombrero in plain view. No, that's insanely dumb. The draft is designed to help the worst teams get better, and if the team picking number one has twice as many wins as the team picking number two, there's something fucking wrong with the system. The draft is designed to help bad teams get better, but the lottery is designed to prevent teams from tanking for draft position. Right now, there's a lottery to determine the top three picks, but it still rewards teams for tanking by giving them a better chance to get a top pick. It's a compromise that totally undermines the premise of having a lottery in the first place. They got it right the first time: just draw the teams in reverse order. Either you just give the worst team the first pick and so on down the line, or you go back to a true lottery. Pick a lane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2008 Wait, how the hell did the Bulls get the #1 pick? After the Bobcats got #9, the guy said this puts the Bulls in the top 3. How'd that work out? Um... I THINK that they finished with the 9th worst record, and they only lottery off the top three picks, so once you didn't see Chicago at nine, you knew they had one of those lottery'd picks. That doesn't make any sense. Just because you don't get it doesn't mean it doesn't make any sense. Unless you're talking about the idea as a whole not being logical... in which case... meh. It didn't make sense to me because I didn't know just the top 3 were the lottery. I thought there was more to it. That is all. Thanks. Who do the Bulls currently have at point? It'd be cool to have D-Rose play his home team Wilbon was all about that on PTI. But it didn't make much sense because even though Hinrich had a horrible year, he isn't that bad. He ain't that good either. Rose looks like he could be better...now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Desensitized Report post Posted May 21, 2008 Yeah, John Paxson's cabana boy can feel free to move on. He's not a piece of a winning puzzle at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naiwf 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2008 I say trade him to the Knicks for Eddy Curry since you need a big man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gert T 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2008 Trade him to the Heat for their 2011 1st round pick and Ricky Davis. Then have the Bulls take a restraining order out on Ricky D from coming within two miles of their locker room. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Precious Roy 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2008 The Knicks got the 6th pick. FUCK. THAT. BULLSHIT! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2008 I'm amazed the Bucks didn't end up #2 behind the Bulls, just to further bury the Pacers in the Central. This sucks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2008 OK, here is the first mock from Chad Ford. 1. Chicago - Michael Beasley, PF/6-10/235/19/Kansas St. 2. Miami - Derrick Rose, PG/6-3/205/19/Memphis 3. Minnesota - Brook Lopez, C/7-0/260/20/Stanford 4. Seattle - Jerryd Bayless, PG/6-3/190/19/Arizona 5. Memphis - O.J. Mayo, SG/6-4/195/20/USC 6. New York - Danilo Gallinari, SF/6-9/212/19/Italy 7. LA Clippers - Russell Westbrook, PG/6-3/189/19/UCLA 8. Milwaukee - Eric Gordon, SG/6-4/215/19/Indiana 9. Charlotte - Kevin Love, PF/6-10/275/19/UCLA 10. New Jersey - Anthony Randolph, PF/6-11/220/18/LSU 11. Indiana - D.J. Augustin, PG/6-0/180/20/Texas 12. Sacramento - Darrell Arthur, PF/6-10/225/20/Kansas 13. Portland - Joe Alexander, SF/6-8/220/21/West Virginia 14. Golden State - DeAndre Jordan, C/7-0/255/20/Texas A&M 15. Phoenix (from Atlanta) - Donte Greene, SF/6-10/225/20/Syracuse 16. Philadelphia - Marreese Speights, C/6-10/245/19/Florida 17. Toronto - Robin Lopez, C/7-0/245/20/Stanford 18. Washington - JaVale McGee, PF/7-0/237/20/Nevada 19. Cleveland - Kosta Koufos, C/7-0/265/19/Ohio St. 20. Denver - Ty Lawson, PG/5-11/195/20/North Carolina 21. New Jersey (from Dallas) - Chase Budinger, SG/6-7/205/20/Arizona 22. Orlando - Brandon Rush, SG/6-7/205/22/Kansas 23. Utah - Roy Hibbert, C/7-2/275/21/Georgetown 24. Seattle (from Phoenix) - Serge Ibaka, PF/6-10/220/18/Congo 25. Houston - J.J. Hickson, PF/6-9/240/19/NC State 26. San Antonio - Nicolas Batum, SF/6-8/210/19/France 27. New Orleans - Bill Walker, SF/6-6/235/20/Kansas St. 28. Memphis (from LA Lakers) - Nathan Jawai, PF/6-10/270/21/Australia 29. Detroit - Chris Douglas-Roberts, SG/6-6/195/21/Memphis 30. Boston - Ante Tomic, C/7-2/237/21/Croatia Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nogoodnick 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2008 D'Antoni choosing the Bulls over the Knicks looks even more ridiculous now. Unless Lebron can be had in two years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fökai 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2008 The two teams that would also be attractive for James would be New Jersey and Chicago. The Knicks better be on the cusp of something success-wise when they make a pitch for LeBron, or they're going to be left in the dust by Jersey and Chicago's rebuilding projects. EDIT: I think it was Pat Forde who just mentioned Durant, Gay and Wade being "mesmerized" by Jay-Z's presence at the lottery. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Desensitized Report post Posted May 21, 2008 After last year's debacle, I wouldn't be shocked to see Paxson draft Kevin Love #1 overall. It doesn't matter, though. I don't think Rose or Beasley is the type of transcendent player that can bring the Bulls back out of the doldrums in one year. Don't forget, this team still doesn't have a coach yet. I expect the draft to be mishandled, the coach to be inadequate, ticket prices to be raised, national coverage scaled back, and anything else that the Bulls can do to piss off the fanbase. I expect another lost season in which the Bulls become a complete afterthought. The Black Hawks will be the hotter ticket next season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edwin MacPhisto 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2008 I was gonna say, I'd be hard-pressed to find a team who's more likely to screw up the #1 pick than the Bulls this year. Normally I'd default to Minnesota, but it would have been easy even for them this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Desensitized Report post Posted May 21, 2008 I'm still keeping an eye out for Hansbrough changing his mind about college. Tell me why I shouldn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edwin MacPhisto 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2008 You should trade for Josh McRoberts too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2008 I'm still keeping an eye out for Hansbrough changing his mind about college. Tell me why I shouldn't. I think it's too late to enter the draft Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
