Guess Who Killed Russo-mania

[Guest the 1inch punch]

Credit, of Course, to 411 Wrestling

 

Many now feel that Triple H and Stephanie played a large role in getting Vince Russo demoted from being a main person in the creative team. It was apparently Triple H and Stephanie that went to McMahon and convinced him not to give Russo such control.

 

Some even go as far as believing that WWE rehired Vince Russo for the sole reason to keep him from writing the "tell all" book on WWE and Vince McMahon that he was working on.

 

Whatever the case, Stephanie will continue to oversee the two writing crews, both crews remain intact, Russo will likely be working from home, and things seem to be the same as they have been.

 

Credit: PWTorch.com

 

Mark my words, H3 is on a mission to kill Brock's Career

[Guest Angle-plex]

Russo: I think Taker should retain his title at KOTR....

HHH: This guy just doesn't know how to use current WWE characters. Lets go talk to Vince.........

 

Seriously, Russo probably wanted to elevate new guys and stop HHH's "unstoppable face" push.

 

HHH will see to it that Russo won't be able to get in touch with McMahon over the telephone soon as well.

[Guest Some Guy]

There's a shock. HHH hindering a guy who is known for pushing young and/or new talent. Now will the "HHH has no power" people knock that shit off? He fucks the booker for Christ's sake!

[Guest Tony149]

I'm not surprise by this at all. When I heard people spoke out against Russo's ideas, three people came to mind...HHH, Steph & JR. Considering they probabl have the most stroke to get into McMahon's ear.

 

Steph & HHH had the most to lose, if you will. If Meltzer is right, Russo would of became the Head TV writer again. Meaning Steph "gets the F out." HHH loses most likely his biggest alley from the creative team.

 

Of course that's going to bring up the "you weren't there" comments.

 

Hell, I wouldn't be surprise if ratings keep falling -- McMahon ends up letting Russo become the head writer.

[Guest Sakura]

Awesome. Go HHH!

[Guest GenerationNever]

Awesome. Go HHH!

Tell me you did not just say that.

[Guest HHH's 'Roid Needle]

HHH can burn in hell for all I care. Vince McMahon has obviously been reduced to nothing more than a senile, figure-head old man, who is completely out of touch with reality. He refuses to accept or realize that his company is crumbling around him, and cannot accept that "Daddy's little girl and her boyfriend" could ever be wrong. YOU THINK HHH and Steph don't KNOW THIS?!? They are taking advantage of the old man. Its pretty much over now, IMO. The only way, now, to "save" the WWF, is to either get Vince McMahon to out of the company or to fire HHH and "Daddy's Little Girl", because the combination of those 3 are burning the place down. No sane person would stand by and watch their "life's work" be shit-canned and used like an alterboy by a priest.

If HHH and Steph are gone, then rational human beings could then run the company, while "Crazy Old Vince" sits in his office as nothing more than a relic, similar to the Queen of England. If they stay, then Vince has got to go, and someone who isn't senile, and actually HAS balls the size of grapefruits needs to be put in place to tell that useless cum-stain HHH and the no-talent bitch Stephanie to get the f*ck out of the office or they're going to be fired. The new man tells them to shut the f*ck up, they are not the bookers, they do as he says, or they can quit, period.

[Guest joshicho]

It seems that Russo would be the lesser of two evils, but thats saying something!

[Guest thebigjig]

Add me to the official HHH hater list. I've defended him in the past, but this is getting ridiculous. I've never been one to deny backstage politics, but I have in the past defended HHH because I felt the net was giving him too much of a hard time... but now, I have truly seen the light...

 

 

*takes deep breath*

 

FUCK HHH!

 

There... that actually felt kind of good B)

[Guest Angle-plex]

Somebody should make a "one & only HHHaters" thread.

[Guest BoboBrazil]

No surprise here. I mentioned that it was probably them that got him demoted in one of the Russo threads yesterday. HHH and Stephanie are an unstoppable team.

[Guest Some Guy]

Come on now say it with me W-C-W.

 

That's all.

[Guest Human Fly]

I wasn't in favor of Russo coming in and controlling everything, but if he worked with the other bookers like Heyman then we could've gotten things like new talent elevated, but the Russo crap would've hopefully been weeded out.

 

Well, HHH must have been the one who was going to get weeded out. Why should a wrestler have any say in this? It sounds like HHH was at the meeting. What is he doing there? Can you imagine if Spike Dudley just strolled into Titan Towers and attended a booking meeting? They'd toss him out most likely. Like they shoudl do to HHH.

[Guest goodolemr]

HHH and Steph will be the death of the WWE

[Guest Brian]

Real story as presented by the original source, Pwtorch.com:

 

"Vince Russo's role in WWE has already been scaled back tremendously to a mere consultant role. At this time plans do not call for him to be at WWE headquarters or at live events, but instead work from home.

 

Sources say that many people were upset with Russo's idea for how "turn around WWE," but Triple H may have been the most influential in Russo's instant demotion. Triple H and Stephanie McMahon may have been key in getting Vince McMahon to rescind his original plans for Russo to take over creative control of the company.

 

The circumstances are bizarre enough that there are still many who believe McMahon brought Russo back merely to get him to agree not to write his tell-all book about his time in WWE. The last thing McMahon needs now is a Martha Stuart-level scandal, truthful or not, perpetrated by a bitter former employee. It's possible McMahon never intended for Russo to be part of the creative team, but strung him along initially just to get him to agree in writing not to publish his book.

 

As of now, what is known is that the writing team remains in tact with Brian Gewirtz and Paul Heyman in charge of Raw and Smackdown respectively, and Stephanie overseeing both shows. Vince McMahon, as usual, has final say over scripts and all writers are essentially writing a show they hope will fit McMahon's current vision."

 

Pure speculation at this point. And people wonder how dirtsheets that they read so religiously get such a bad rap.

[Guest HHH's 'Roid Needle]

Sorry. The fact that HHH had anything to do with his removal WHATSOEVER is sickening. Why not Chavo Jr? Why not Mark Henry? HHH hasn't drawn a fucking dime. He's nothing more than a wrestler. If this were any sensible company, Trip would be rubbing the scrapes on his roided ass from hitting the ground so hard after being thrown from the building. The message to Trip is, GET OUT AND STAY OUT.

[Guest Brian]

"Sorry. The fact that HHH had anything to do with his removal WHATSOEVER is sickening."

 

Misread again.

 

"HHH hasn't drawn a fucking dime."

 

That's totally untrue. HHH the heel in 2000 was drawing great. Him and rocky combined had probably one of the best pay per view headlining buyrates of a period that long. His merchandise was doing remarkably well at the time, but still it wasn't that great compared to what he could have probably done as a face. Ratings, one of the worst benchmarks, were stable and great. They weren't incredible, but they were great.

 

"He's nothing more than a wrestler. If this were any sensible company, Trip would be rubbing the scrapes on his roided ass from hitting the ground so hard after being thrown from the building. The message to Trip is, GET OUT AND STAY OUT."

 

Really sensible. I mean, why does everyone take the HHHating so seriously. Twisting stories, being outright idiots via third hand information. Yeah, I hate what HHH has done with the politics, but some people are just over the top.

[Guest HHH's 'Roid Needle]

Go ahead and kiss his ass. The reason people get so over the top with him is because he never quits with the politics, whether it is good or bad for the company. Ever think people are just sick to death of him and his politics? Nah, that couldn't be it.

[Guest Brian]

I didn't kiss his ass. I just pointed out where you were wrong. Try supporting your tirade next time.

 

And even though I've heard most accounts of what Triple H has done, why don't you tell me what he's done in the last month that's been so bad? With support please, it's called building an argument.

[Guest Incandenza]

Yeah, I hate what HHH has done with the politics, but some people are just over the top.

 

Amen. Trips is worthy derision for many reasons, but the net geeks work themselves up in a lather over the most ridiculous reasons. And if Paul Levesque really did having anything to do with the demoting of Russo, I'm glad. Fuck Russo, and the horse he rode in on.

[Guest Incandenza]

Go ahead and kiss his ass.

 

This is what I'm talking about vis-a-vis net geek idiocy. How would any of us dumbasses benefit from brownosing a man we do not know nor ever will?

[Guest Angle-plex]

And even though I've heard most accounts of what Triple H has done, why don't you tell me what he's done in the last month that's been so bad?

 

Got Russo sent home. Besides that, nothing, since he's already burried RVD, Angle, and Jericho enough in the last few months.

[Guest Prince Paul]

HHH is a piece of shit. Seriously, IF this is true, than his politicking is getting out of control. Worse than Shawn Michaels. And that's no easy feat.

 

I can't wait until Vince realizes that HHH is not the same man he once was. If HHH can prove me wrong and put on a string of matches like he did in 2000, then fine. But he can't and he's the most boring face in the Main Event since Big Show in 99, unless I'm forgetting someone.

[Guest Brian]

I can see the Jericho, and can make a connection with Angle, but RVD fails to convince me as Triple H's hand. Especially if the guy goes onto win KOTR or at least make a solid showing. But once again, I asked for evidence.

[Guest Brian]

"Got Russo sent home."

 

No one has reported that. Pure speculation in the same sense everyone else does on this board. And it's speculation with a purpose; because when you read it you don't see the "may" and the "might", you see the Triple H and a backstage problem. And you guys just get fed this stuff and keep on going.

 

I HHHate on facts.

[Guest Tony149]

I don't think people are doubting this is speculation. They just wouldn't be surprise if this was true.

 

Anyway, if this was true...who could blame HHH or Steph? Hell, if I was the writer who hasn't done much since I took over, then I see the boss bring in somebody who helped him turn things around...I would hope something happened to him or bad mouth him to keep him away from my job.

 

It's normal for people to be looking out for themselves, but if McMahon isn't paying attention...that shit could hurt his company big time.

[Guest thebigjig]

Besides that, nothing, since he's already burried RVD, Angle, and Jericho enough in the last few months.

ok I can see where you are coming from with Jericho and Angle, but I'm curious... how has he buried RVD? If my memory serves me correctly, RVD was practically already buried before HHH made his comeback... besides, they're on different rosters. I'm not saying it didn't happen, because I don't really know, I just want to know what evidence you can show me that he buried RVD

[Guest Angle-plex]

RVD was feuding with Jericho (Champ at the time). January 7th comes, and the feud is cancelled, despite it doing pretty well. And then in the Royal Rumble, RVD gets in the ring, is pedigreed by HHH, and thrown out in 2 seconds by HHH.\

 

RVD then went on to boring feuds with Goldust and Regal.

[Guest Syxx]

they will say anything to support the argument, I can back them up with Jericho, Angle a bit, but saying RVD is just grasping at straws. I like Russo though because he makes things interesting, so I hope he gets a fair shot to elevate and give new gimmicks to who he wants to move up. At least it will be fresh.

[Guest X-Factor Corperation]

That would suck. But I'm guessing it was Stephinie.

 

As for RVD, people get mad about that. I believe, and of course I say I believe sinc eI don't have axcess to the booking team, was just a mini feud just likeRock vs Test. People get mad about that, but it makes sence. Test's Chris Jericho's friend and The Rock is feuding with him to keep him busy for two weeks, then he beats him and goes on to Jericho. I think that's one of the reasons why they did the split. They had too little material for the shows.