Guest PlatypusFool Report post Posted June 24, 2002 IMO the biggest problem with the product that WWE is giving us right now is the standardization of styles. Everyone on the roster wrestles the exact same style, the cruisers, the women and the main eventers all do the exact same thing. A bit of brawling with a few basic wrestling moves mixed in, a bit of half-arsed limb work or build (if we're lucky) and then some finishing moves to end the match. The only people who are over in the company are those that wrestle their own style and with their own mannerisms (RVD, Booker, Rock Brock to an extent), and Vince is even trying to mould those into his image of a good main eventer (we saw this on Sunday from RVD trying to add lots of punches to his offence). I just don't understand why Vince doesn't notice this and allow everyone to wrestle with their own style, then the fans can really decide who they like and don't like. The other thing that REALLY annoys me about WWE is that everyone is kicking out of everyone's finishers. WHY?!?! What does it do for anyone?! Completely baffling... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest y2jailbait Report post Posted June 24, 2002 That to me is right as well. I dont really see why the cruisers have to be slowed down to heavywieght type pace at all times it seems. Tajiri Vs. Kidman at Backlash was what it was supposed to be like, but where did it all go wrong? Plus, the deal with the finshers is wierd itself. Its in a different world all to itself. I just dont understand why the most devastating moves (SWINGING NECKBREAKER FROM THE TOP SUCKA!!!) are made to look like shit to the Powerbomb????? WWE Messed up booking right there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest oldschoolwrestling Report post Posted June 24, 2002 The only way to win a WWE match is with outside interference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest PlatypusFool Report post Posted June 24, 2002 Or a belt shot... or in Jericho's experience, a low blow, an exposed turnbuckle, a belt shot, a handful of tights and your feet on the ropes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Zack Malibu Report post Posted June 24, 2002 Keith actually said something about this recently, about how every on the roster is forced to work the downgraded "WWF/E" style, thus not being able to stand out, and getting lost in the shuffle, becoming a bland midcarder. Such is the case with Val Venis, The Holly's, Test, etc. Even RVD and Tajiri, two standouts, who got the crowd behind them, are forced to have a "signature moveset". Now, instead of busting out a new move every match, RVD just pulls out Rolling Thunder, flying kick, etc. While there should be a limit (reserve certain moves for certain guys, don't use finishers just to tease pointless near falls), I say that the roster should be given more free reign on their movesets. It'll actually create interest, which is something that the WWE needs right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dangerous A Report post Posted June 24, 2002 To add to the problem with styles is that anyone who goes outside those "style" lines that gets over usually is told they need to conform to the norm. RVD and Tajiri are the examples everyone on this board cites and they are perfect examples. What got them over was their unique abilities that were not the norm, yet they get held back because of it. In RVD's case I think he needs to keep his style, but tweak the transitional strikes (cause his are lame) to the main event "style". Other than that the WWE's other problems seem to be booking week to week and on the fly as well as relying on their pat hand of main eventers (Taker, HHH, Austin, Hogan) instead of creating new stars to take their places. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest PlatypusFool Report post Posted June 24, 2002 I know, I really wanna see the buy-rate for KOTR, hopefully Vince will get a shock... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest myburninghammer Report post Posted June 24, 2002 Well, when you keep telling the masses that it's "sports entertainment," methinks people aren't THAT stupid to not realize that RVD's moveset, with all his flippy shit, is more "entertaining" (I hate it, but he has the worst punch ever and can't promo and is still massively over). When every other guy is only allowed to use three power moves--neckbreaker, vertical suplex, powerslam--then RVD looks amazing, which is sort of ironic because they've inadvertantly managed to get him over by trying not to get over. I still think they should bring back head/neck dropping moves to fix the dilution of weak finishers...the argument that they're dangerous is worthless because everyone's getting injured from non-dangerous moves anyway. If they protect those spots, and don't over-use them, then they'll help get guys like Helms over. But I regress. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Austin3164life Report post Posted June 24, 2002 WWE is not very good right now because Vince is not allowing the wrestlers to get into their own groove in the matches they are involved in. I think that the management is trying to create a staple for all wrestlers to follow. That's why in every tag team match you see on tv, there's always those spots where both the heel and face are down and crawling to their corner for dramatic effect. The heel makes it first and the face later. Vince and co. have been riding on these kind of concepts for a while, and the marks have already begun to see that all the wrestlers are being booked to perform the same match night in and night out. Rarely does the WWE allow us to see an Austin/Benoit match or an Rock/Jericho match where they do what they do best and stick to their own styles. It's very anti-climatic seeing the same match all the time from the same people. For example. Hollywood Hulk Hogan. I know the man is a legend, but all of his matches most likely follow the same exact format, which is why he's so boring in the ring. I think Vince needs to just let guys like Angle, Jericho, Benoit, Eddy, Booker, and RVD to cut loose and perform in their own style. That way all of us fans can see a variety of wrestling moves and mannerisms to entertain us...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted June 25, 2002 WWE does Stiffle the Skills of every wrestler going in, even to the point of causing nearly every match to be identical in terms of moves and events during. Probably because they don't want people showing up their established Main Eventers. Poor Rey Mystero Jr when he debuts, HHH might find his Shoulder Spin Hurricanrana Threatening to His Merchadise Sales and tell Vince to BAN it! Chavo pulled off that Emerald Fusion a couple of weeks ago and he has been jobbing ever since heh new innovative moves seem to come out from PPV's and only used ever so often afterwards. WWE and Vince in particular refuses to experiment with a Less Restrictive movestyle. Safety is good but these are Suppose to be Professional Wrestlers and take risks everydays. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NaturalBornThriller4:20 Report post Posted June 25, 2002 The-WWE's-biggest-problem-is-not-letting-guys-like-Bob-Holly, Shawn-Stasiak,and-Chris-from-Tough-Enough-main-event. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
