Guest Insanityman Report post Posted June 25, 2002 Anti-Flag Rancid Misfits NOFX MxPx Black Flag Operation Ivy (depends on your opinion). Sex Pistols The Ramones Bad Religion The Clash Green Day (same as Ivy). The International Noise Conspiracy The Bouncing Souls Guttermouth I'll edit more in later most likely. Anti-Flag: I really like them, granted I still think anarchy is complete bullshit. I could live without North America Sucks though (didn't like that one). I'm a mark for Underground Network. Rancid: Good stuff, not a big fan of their ska-ish ablums. Misfits: Static Age is awesome, probably a favorite of all the bands listed. NOFX: Don't really care for, but they're alright. MxPx: Over-rated. Black Flag: Meh. Operation Ivy (depends on your opinion). : Not as good as Rancid but I'm listening to a burned Energy right now. Sex Pistols: I prefer the Ramones. But gotta' give them credit. The Ramones: I could listen to them all day long, but I don't. Bad Religion: Good stuff, I have the Gray Race and that's it. The Clash: Same as Ramones. Green Day (same as Ivy). : Not punk to me but I'll listen to them anyways. The International Noise Conspiracy: I've only heard a few songs but I liked. The Bouncing Souls: Read above. Guttermouth: Not a fan of. Minor Threat: Not a fan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest saturnmark4life Report post Posted June 25, 2002 Out of the list i really like misfits, NOFX, Rancid, the ramones, guttermouth and the clash, and haven't heard much of the others. Sex pistols are oki-sh, and green day need to quit NOW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffin Surfer Report post Posted June 25, 2002 Anti-Flag-Complete Shit. Rancid-And Out Come the Wolves is poppunk masterpeice, the rest ranges from decent to complete shit. Misfits-Danzig era is without a question THE GREATEST PUNK BAND THAT EVER EXISTED. NOFX-Boring, Repetive Pop Shit. They have a handful of good songs. MxPx-Complete and utter shit. Black Flag-Some stuff is amazing. Some stuff makes you scratch your head and say "WTF?". Despite being hit and miss, Black Flag understood the meaning of punk more than any other band. My War is one of the greatest and most disturbing achievements in recording history. Operation Ivy-A very Good fast ska/punk band. Sex Pistols-The Dolls and The Dead Boys did first and better, but the Sex Pistols were still a good band. The Ramones-They may not have invented punk, but they were still a damn good band. Bad Religion-Early stuff from the late 70s and early 80s is some of the best Hardcore punk ever. Newer stuff is complete shit and a disgrace to their legacy. The Clash-One of the best punk bands ever. Green Day-One of the most generic and boring punk bands ever. They practiually copied their entire career from Huskur Du. Right down to the "Were Being Punk on our terms" statement after releasing an acoutsic album. Get your own career you posers. The International Noise Conspiracy-not my bag baby. Go listen Nation of Ulysses for the real deal. The Bouncing Souls-Your so boring, boring, boring Guttermouth-I've heard all this before, I've heard all this before. Minor Threat-If it wasn't for Bad Brains, these guys would get the award for best D.C. pure hardcore punk band. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jtronx Report post Posted June 26, 2002 Anti-Flag - liked their early stuff (Iron City Punk comp), haven't heard anything since. Rancid - If I wanted to listen to the Clash or Social D... Misfits - What Coffin Surfer said. NOFX - used to hate 'em, grew to like some of their stuff. MxPx - about as punk as church. Black Flag - one of the bands that changed my life. I have a Black Flag bars tattoo and am not ashamed. Operation Ivy - soundtrack to my high school days! The drummer went on to be in the excellent Schlong. Sex Pistols - good The Ramones - gods, but can only listen to in small doses anymore Bad Religion - eh, never liked 'em. What's that one album? Suffer? That's pretty good. The Clash - buy everything except for 'Cut the Crap' and listen to it over and over again. This is an order. Green Day - bores me The International Noise Conspiracy - what Coffin Surfer said. Go listen to the Nation Of Ulysses. The Bouncing Souls - lots of fun live, I wish I still had my 'Argyle' 7" Guttermouth - no opinion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Edwin MacPhisto Report post Posted June 27, 2002 Anti-Flag - Amusing, if only for "Die For Your Government." Rancid - Quality , but one of those bands that I say "yep, they're good" without caring too much for them personally. Misfits - Can't believe this is the same guy who launched a bloated, doofy rock career. Mondo applause. NOFX - Poop. MxPx - Poop squared, but I think I dislike them a little less than NOFX. I'm actually not sure which one is which. Black Flag - Quality, but Henry Rollins scares the shit out of me. Operation Ivy (depends on your opinion). - Have heard regrettably little. Regret this. Seem catchy, at least. Sex Pistols - Dirty, growlie, and interesting. Never Mind The Bollocks makes me grin. The Ramones - Three chords, always perfection. They also made the movie Rock And Roll High School, and for that they will be lords. Bad Religion - Not familiar. The Clash - The gods of punk. And so much more. London Calling's always a staple of my "Desert Island Discs" lists. Green Day (same as Ivy). - Like em, but not for punkness. It's good power-pop. The International Noise Conspiracy - Don't know it. The Bouncing Souls - Only heard silly punk coverse. Based on that, no desire. Guttermouth - Not much reaction here. Minor Threat - Truly awesome, but I do prefer Fugazi more, and am thankful that he went in that direction. Don't think Minor Threat could have lasted too long. "Complete Discography" is all ya ever need. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest chirs3 Report post Posted June 27, 2002 Anti-Flag - Who? Rancid - Heard one song, good. Misfits - Purty good. NOFX - Great. MxPx - Heard one song... eh. Black Flag - Who? Operation Ivy (depends on your opinion) - Who? Sex Pistols - Heard OF them, haven't heard them. The Ramones - Purty good. Bad Religion - Great. The Clash - Who? Green Day (same as Ivy) - GREATEST BAND EVAR. (agree with Edwin, not quite as punkish as advertised) The International Noise Conspiracy - Who? The Bouncing Souls - "Kate is Great" makes me want to kill someone. Guttermouth - Who? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Doomsault Report post Posted June 27, 2002 Misfits-They sing about cool stuff like monsters and crap like that but I still just can't get into the music. NOFX-I've heard good things. MxPx-Ditto Black Flag-Great Sex Pistols-Decent but not my favorite. The Ramones-Excellent, like most all of their songs. Bad Religion-Pretty good. Green Day (same as Ivy).-I like them, what's wrong with making money for something you love to do? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest redbaron51 Report post Posted June 27, 2002 Only good bands on their are the Ramones, Black Flag... but still leaves off Fugazi... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jimmy no nose Report post Posted June 27, 2002 Is Anti-Flag a national band now? I know some of those guys. There's this one guy who used to be in the band who called himself Andy Flag who works at this record store. He's the craziest guy ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Zero_Cool Report post Posted June 30, 2002 Well, I went to Warped Tour on Friday, so I can speak on Anti-Flag's performance. I was pretty far away form the action, standing under a tree next to one of the half pipes, but still saw everything. The crowd digged their energy, but the lead singer just wouldn't shut the f*ck up. After every song, he had to make a political statement. The music wasn't bad at all, good, I thought, but the anti-democracy stuff after every single song got old...and humorous. Flogging Molly rocks, btw. I just had to get that out. Celtic Punk! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nevermortal Report post Posted July 1, 2002 Anti-Flag -Meh Rancid -They begat AFI & Tiger Army, so I'm cool with them Misfits -The fucking best NOFX -Meh MxPx -Crap Black Flag -Fun Operation Ivy (depends on your opinion). -Only heard one song, I didn't like it much. Sex Pistols -Overrated The Ramones -2nd to Only the Misfits Bad Religion -Good shit The Clash -MEH! I said it at the first smarksboard, and I got yelled at, so MEH! Green Day (same as Ivy). -I liked Dookie. The International Noise Conspiracy -Never heard them. The Bouncing Souls -Decent Guttermouth -I like that one song off of Tony Hawk 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Doomsault Report post Posted July 2, 2002 Man I just listened to some stuff by A.F.I. on the THPS3 soundtrack, these guys fucking rock, Tiger Army is good too but I think they sound a little TOO much like A.F.I.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nevermortal Report post Posted July 2, 2002 Well, the AFI singer does do back up on a lot of Tiger Army songs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooseCannon Report post Posted July 2, 2002 Anti-Flag Have only heard the die for your govt album. I liked it, but not enough to actively track down their other stuff. Rancid It's probably an unfair comparision, but I like Op Ivy a lot better. ...And Out Come the Wolves was a very good album though. Their other stuff is okay, but nothing great. Misfits Great band. Had some great songs, but had a decent amount of filler too. NOFX White Trash and Punk and Drublic are their only two good albums, neither of which is good all the way through. The Longest Line, which only has a few songs on it, is probably their best release. You could probably fit all the Nofx songs worth listening to onto a 60 minute greatest hits album and it would be a pretty good album. MxPx I'll admit I haven't actually heard anything by these guys, but that's not going to stop me from hating them. Black Flag I like the Chavo era stuff best. Damaged is pretty much the only album with Rollins I like, and its an amazing album. Rollins hasn't done anything close to as good since. On subsequent albums Rollins seems to be holding something back, but on Damaged you can hear the man scream like a tortured animal untill his vocal chords bleed. It makes everything he's done since seem pretty tame and boring in comparison. Also Damaged was their last true punk album. On My War, the songs are slower and each is about three minutes too long, and then Black Flag really degenerated after that, except for In my Head which is also a very good album. The First Four Years and Everything Went Black are also good albums. Operation Ivy (depends on your opinion). One of my all time favorites. They seriously never put out a bad song. Everything ranges from good to great. Sex Pistols Never Mind the Bollocks... was a nice little album. It's catchy, and snarling and if you can forget the way they've tarnished their legacy in various ways over the past twenty years then it's still a very enjoyable punk rock album. The Ramones Their first 4 albums are all really fucking great albums, but then they suffered from a bit of repetitiveness. But still a great band. Bad Religion Extremely underrated. They more or less grandfathered the so-cal pop-punk sound (you might not think that's a good thing), but did it better and more maturely than those who followed their lead and took the sound in a more 'adolescent' direction. Although their albums have tailed off in quality recently, they have also been one of the most consistent punk bands ever, putting out so many good albums over their career that it almost got monotonous. They had six great albums between 1988 and 1994 and throw in the '80-'85 stuff and that makes seven. Very few punk bands can claim to have made that many good albums. The Clash Fucking icons. Probably the greatest punk band ever and the most respected. The UK version of their debut is one of the best albums I've ever heard. Though I don't really like some of their later albums. Green Day (same as Ivy). Dookie was a very good album that I used to hate because of a narrow minded punk attitude that dictated that I had to hate anything that was popular. Nevertheless with the perspective of time, I can see that this album is a really good punk album that has stood up over time. Their earlier stuff is decent, but not great. And they've gone downhill since Dookie, but they nevertheless deserve praise for that album which I feel is somewhat underrated if only because it's pop-punk which tends to be frowned upon by music critics and the general public due to some of the lesser bands that have been known to dabble in the genre. The International Noise Conspiracy I've heard a couple songs which I liked, but that's about all I can say. The Bouncing Souls I can tolerate these guys. There are a lot of bands that sound the same, but for some reason I've always like them a little more than I thought I probably should. But I hated their live show. Guttermouth God I hate these fucking guys. Every single one of their fucking songs is stupider than the next. Just uncreative adolescent jokes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Sebastian_the_Bastard Report post Posted July 5, 2002 Anti-Flag - Nothing special, but not bad from what I've heard Rancid - Pimp as hell Misfits - Don't care for them. NOFX - OVERRATED MxPx - Good stuff. Move to Bremerton is a fantastic song Black Flag - One funny song, that's all I care for The Ramones - Good stuff. Bad Religion - AMAZING MUSIC. Greg Graffin is a genius... but no where near Joey Cape. The Clash - Kind of annoying Green Day - Great stuff. I have most their CDs. The International Noise Conspiracy - That's exactly what they are... NOISE The Bouncing Souls - Good Guttermouth - THE MOST ANNOYING BAND YOU COULD EVER IMAGINE!!!!!! WORST BAND EVER! Lagwagon - Best band to ever walk to the Earth. Joey Cape is the man... the best musician I have ever heard. Love, Sebastian the Bastard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BottleRocket Report post Posted July 7, 2002 The International Noise Conspiracy-not my bag baby. Go listen Nation of Ulysses for the real deal. Minor Threat-If it wasn't for Bad Brains, these guys would get the award for best D.C. pure hardcore punk band. Too bad the Bad Brains weren't a pure hardcore band, they experimented freely with dub and reggae. As for the The (International) Noise Conspiracy, I think sonically they are much closer to Ian Svenonious' other major band, the Make-Up. And while T(I)NC has a sense of humor (e.g. "Capitalism Stole My Virginity") similar to both the Make-Up and Nation of Ulysses, I think Dennis Lyxzén and company have a real political agenda that neither of the DC bands ever truly embraced. Regardless, T(I)NC is just Refused set to The Delta 72 and everyone is better off listening to a Ted Leo record. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jtronx Report post Posted July 7, 2002 Damn straight. Get the new Tyranny of Distance or Chisel (his old band) - 8 A.M. All Day. He is a great musician, a great performer, and a super nice guy. Hell, I'm gonna throw him on right now... Oh! MANDATORY ON-TOPIC CONTENT: Hey Punk! Get Death Church by Rudimentary Peni. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffin Surfer Report post Posted July 8, 2002 The International Noise Conspiracy-not my bag baby. Go listen Nation of Ulysses for the real deal. Minor Threat-If it wasn't for Bad Brains, these guys would get the award for best D.C. pure hardcore punk band. Too bad the Bad Brains weren't a pure hardcore band, they experimented freely with dub and reggae. As for the The (International) Noise Conspiracy, I think sonically they are much closer to Ian Svenonious' other major band, the Make-Up. And while T(I)NC has a sense of humor (e.g. "Capitalism Stole My Virginity") similar to both the Make-Up and Nation of Ulysses, I think Dennis Lyxzén and company have a real political agenda that neither of the DC bands ever truly embraced. Regardless, T(I)NC is just Refused set to The Delta 72 and everyone is better off listening to a Ted Leo record. No Shit Sherlock! Did that pointless statement make you feel smarter. If your so damn smart, you would know what I'am talking about when I say that Bad Brains produced some of the very best Pure Hardcore Punk IMO. Of course you knew that, and you just wanted to play with my words. Bad Brains were a pure hardcore punk band on their self titled album. Sure they had a few a reggae songs(e.g. "Leaving Babylon"), but most of their work was pure hardcore punk(e.g. "Banned in D.C."). The band wouldn't fuse the two genres until "I Against I". I also hope your not implying that T(I)NC is better than the NoU and Make-Up, because they fully embraced their political agenda. Oh well to each there own. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BottleRocket Report post Posted July 8, 2002 No Shit Sherlock! Did that pointless statement make you feel smarter. If your so damn smart, you would know what I'am talking about when I say that Bad Brains produced some of the very best Pure Hardcore Punk IMO. Of course you knew that, and you just wanted to play with my words. Bad Brains were a pure hardcore punk band on their self titled album. Sure they had a few a reggae songs(e.g. "Leaving Babylon"), but most of their work was pure hardcore punk(e.g. "Banned in D.C."). The band wouldn't fuse the two genres until "I Against I". I also hope your not implying that T(I)NC is better than the NoU and Make-Up, because they fully embraced their political agenda. Oh well to each there own. Sorry to offend you, sir. My point about the Bad Brains is that they always intended to meld punk and reggae. Many argue it was the result of Dr. Know observing how the two genres stood side by side in the UK. And, yes, they did have several reggae or dub tracks on their `82 self-titled cassette for ROIR. It has always been a staple of their recordings. Even if I were to accept your somewhat misguided point that it wasn't fully realized until `86 with "I Against I" on SST, you have to admit that they never intended to be completely pigeon-holed as a pure hardcore band. Sure, they made some of the best pure hardcore music (e.g. "Banned In DC", "Pay To Cum," etc.), but they never were a strictly pure hardcore band. I just took exception to your labeling them as such. They cast a much wider net than JUST hardcore. They embraced reggae, dub, and metal, as well as, hardcore punk. In the end, the original line-up was so divided between heavy music and reggae, that H.R. and Earl Hudson left the group. In addition, I also think that the band's legacy was somewhat tarnished by "God Of Love" and the tours they did under the "Soul Brains" moniker. That in no way takes away the influence they had on countless bands, but, perhaps, one could conclude from all the evidence that Minor Threat is a better example of pure harDCore. As for The (International) Noise Conspiracy, of course I don't think that they are better than the Make-Up or Nation Of Ulysses, I just took exception to your comparisons. Other than, perhaps, style of dress, I don't see the connection to the Nation. I thought a better musical comparison would have been the Make-Up. The comparisons end there, however, since T(I)NC are a serious political band, whereas neither of Svenonious' major bands ever truly were. Just look at a film like "Blue Is Beautiful" and you can see that their statements were so over-the-top that they were intended to be strictly tongue-in-cheek. The actions of T(I)NC, on the other hand, show that they do have a real agenda. All Dennis Lyxzén did was throw his Refused ideology over top of garage-soul/neo mod music. With all this current emphasis on that style of music, I think people would be better off listening to Ted Leo's current work or his old Chisel recordings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted July 8, 2002 I'll comment on the three I know: Ramones: One of greatest punk rock band and three chord bands. Clash: Really good writing, best Green Day: Aside from Dookie, there's not much to these guys. They had a whole lot of people and just never capitalized on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest La Parka Es Mi Papa Report post Posted July 9, 2002 Anti-Flag: Sucks Rancid: Sucks Misfits: Great band, one of my favorites of all time. NOFX: Some amusing lyrics, other than that, they suck. MxPx: REALLY suck. Black Flag: One of the best punk bands ever. Henry Rollins is god. Operation Ivy (depends on your opinion).: Meh. Sex Pistols: Had great influence, but I'm not crazy for the music. The Ramones: Best punk band ever. Bad Religion: Great band, survivors. The Clash: London Calling is a great album. Green Day (same as Ivy).: REALLY suck. The International Noise Conspiracy: Never heard of them. The Bouncing Souls: Ditto. Guttermouth: Ditto. Minor Threat: Not as good as Fugazi, but still a great emo band. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites