Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted June 28, 2002 Torii Hunter beats out Mike Cameron (50,000 vote ahead) Jose Vidro overtakes Roberto Alomar (17,000 behind) Mike Lowell overtakes Scott Rolen (29,000 behind) Jorge Posada holds on over Ivan Rodriquez Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Phr33k Report post Posted June 28, 2002 National League C Mike Piazza 1B Todd Helton 2B Jose Vidro SS Jimmy Rollins 3B Scott Rolen LF Barry Bonds CF Sammy Sosa RF Vladimir Guerrero SP Curt Schilling American League C A. J. Pierzynski 1B Jason Giambi 2B Alfonso Soriano SS Alex Rodriguez 3B Shea Hillenbrand LF Johnny Damon CF Torii Hunter RF Ichiro SP Derek Lowe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest meanmaisch Report post Posted June 29, 2002 Scott Rolen does not deserve to be on the all-star team. As a lifelong, diehard Phillies fan, I've seen him have a few good years in his career that could have made him an all-star. This year, however, he is awful. He isn't even batting .250, which is the saddest stat of all. Rollins is considered the best shortstop in the NL, but I even question his inclusion. Hernandez of Milwaukee seems to be having as good of a season. The Phillies who should make it are Vincente Padilla and Pat Burrell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Hijo Del Lunatic Report post Posted June 30, 2002 Actually, the voters have done a halfway-decent job this year. The only major gripes are Scott Rolen over Mike Lowell (though Rolen should be on the All-Star team) and Robbie Alomar over just about anyone at second base (though I probably can't complain, since I voted for Junior Spivey). The AL looks to be about right - I mean, I can't stand Jorge Posada, but he deserves to go. The shit's going to hit the fan in an hour, though, because Joe Torre is going to piss off everyone ALIVE with his reserve picks, guaranteed. I will be back. -- EDIT: KILLER PIC, meanmaisch! LUNATIC - Pimpin' ho's and clockin' a grip like my name was Dolemite. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ant_7000 Report post Posted June 30, 2002 Can my boy Paul Konerko get any love? He should be on the ballot and start at 1st base in the all-star game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kingpk Report post Posted July 1, 2002 YOUR 2002 All-Star teams: NL Starters: C - Mike Piazza (Mets) 1B- Todd Helton (Rockies) 2B- Jose Vidro (Expos) SS- Jimmy Rollins (Phillies) 3B- Scott Rolen (Phillies) OF- Barry Bonds (Giants) OF- Vladimir Guerrero (Expos) OF- Sammy Sosa (Cubs) NL Reserves: Infield- Luis Castillo (Marlins), Jose Hernandez (Brewers), Mike Lowell (Marlins), Richie Sexson (Brewers), Junior Spivey (Diamondbacks), Damian Miller (Diamondbacks), Benito Santiago (Giants) Outfield- Adam Dunn (Reds), Shawn Green (Dodgers), Luis Gonzalez (Diamondbacks) NL Pitchers: Eric Gagne, LA Tom Glavine, ATL Trevor Hoffman, SD Randy Johnson, ARI Byung-Hyun Kim, ARI Matt Morris, STL Odalis Perez, LA Curt Schilling, ARI John Smoltz, ATL Mike Williams, PIT AL Starters C- Jorge Posada (Yankees) 1B- Jason Giambi (Yankees) 2B- Alfonso Soriano (Yankees) SS- Alex Rodriguez (Rangers) 3B- Shea Hllenbrand (Red Sox) OF- Manny Ramirez (Red Sox) OF- Ichiro Suzuki (Mariners) OF- Torii Hunter (Twins) AL Reserves: Infield- Tony Batista (Orioles), Nomar Garciaparra (Red Sox), Derek Jeter (Yankees), Paul Konerko (White Sox), Mike Sweeney (Royals), Miguel Tejada (Athletics), Robin Ventura (Yankees), Omar Vizquel (Indians), A.J. Pierzynski (Twins) Outfield- Garret Anderson (Angels), Robert Fick (Tigers), Randy Winn (Devil Rays) AL Pitchers: Mark Buerhle, CWS Freddy Garcia, SEA Eddie Guardado, MIN Roy Halladay, TOR Derek Lowe, BOS Pedro Martinez, BOS Mariano Rivera, NYY Kazuhiro Sasaki, SEA Barry Zito, OAK WHEW!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jimmy no nose Report post Posted July 1, 2002 One of the following AL players will be added to the team: Jim Thome-Cleveland Eric Chavez-Oakland Johnny Damon-Boston Darin Erstad-Anaheim Maglio Ordonez-Chicago And from the NL: Albert Pujols-St. Louis Ryan Klesko-San Diego Larry Walker-Colorado Andruw Jones-Atlanta Brian Giles-Pittsburgh Not sure who will be picked from the AL, but Pujols is going to be the NL player voted in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted July 1, 2002 The Milwaukee f'n Brewers had 2 players make it. It's either Sexon or Herandez that team isn't deserving to have 2 picks. Don't even get me started on the Yankees.Ventura beats out Chavez what a joke. Wouldn't it make more sense for Torre to let his players get a few days off. The final choice should not include players on bad teams. Sorry but the Padres and Pirates should not have the opportunity to have a 2nd pick. Jeff Weaver should be the Tigers pick. Forget the losing record he's got 3.17 era. Plus he's on my fantasy baseball team. my final vote would be for Damon, and Jones Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest meanmaisch Report post Posted July 1, 2002 All Star game managers always pad their teams with players from their own teams. Bobby Cox used to load the NL roster with Braves. I think he tried to add Eddie Matthews last year, but it turned out he was dead. Torre had to make sure that the Yankees total was close to double digits. Why the hell did he pick five shortstops? Couldn't he have added another second baseman or an extra catcher? As for the 30th guys, I'll go with Ordonez and Walker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Some Guy Report post Posted July 1, 2002 Gee I wonder which AL shortstop is going to have to play 2nd base after Soriano comes out, $10 says his name is "Ramon" spelled backwards. Where the fuck is Johnny Damon on that list? At least Torre didn't pick any of his outfielders. On managers jerking off their players with all star spots, Mike Hargrove had about 8 Indians on the team in either 96 or 98. Last year Seatle's fans caused a problem with blanet homerism in their voting as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jimmy no nose Report post Posted July 1, 2002 The Milwaukee f'n Brewers had 2 players make it. It's either Sexon or Herandez that team isn't deserving to have 2 picks. Don't even get me started on the Yankees.Ventura beats out Chavez what a joke. Wouldn't it make more sense for Torre to let his players get a few days off. The final choice should not include players on bad teams. Sorry but the Padres and Pirates should not have the opportunity to have a 2nd pick. Jeff Weaver should be the Tigers pick. Forget the losing record he's got 3.17 era. Plus he's on my fantasy baseball team. my final vote would be for Damon, and Jones Since when does it matter what team you play for in a game for individual honor? Sexon and Hernandez were both the most qualified to back up their positions. Who else would you put there? Ventura and Chavez are pretty close stat-wise, so he could have gone either way. That next paragraph is ridiculous. The All-Star game is about how good you are, not your team. If you're stuck on a bad team and still producing why should you be left out? Giles put up All Star numbers as did Klesko. Giles is probably the best player on the NL list there, but he won't be picked because it's a fan vote. The other Pirate, Mike Williams, was a very deserving selection, he is one of 2 NL pitchers on the team with an ERA under 2, and he has a good amount of saves(23) despite being on a team that hasnt won too many games. Hoffman for the Padres was also a good selection at pitcher. I guess Weaver could have made it, but Fick was also good and we can't have two players from that bad Tigers team, can we? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest alkeiper Report post Posted July 2, 2002 I really thought Jim Edmonds should been picked. Also, I don't think Brenly should've picked 5 relievers. Otherwise, not too bad teams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Some Guy Report post Posted July 2, 2002 Brenly is getting heat from his players for not picking Craig Council. At least one manager doesn't constantly jerk off his players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest meanmaisch Report post Posted July 2, 2002 Counsell shouldn't have made the team anyway. He's a good player but not an all-star. Is anyone else in favor of dropping the whole "a rep from every team" rule? I'm sick of seeing pathetic teams like Tampa Bay having all-stars. Winn is a good player, but Tampa Bay is such a worthless franchise, they shouldn't even be represented. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest phoenixrising Report post Posted July 2, 2002 For the 30th man, I'd vote for Thome and Giles. I believe Omar said he would play second. It was cool though, he said he didn't care where he played, as long as he was an All-Star because it was such a big honor for him. Better than having players say how hurt they are and that they don't want to play or whatever. The crazy thing about the five shortstops is, they all deserved it. Five all-stars at one position is just sick. As for the selections - why Benito Santiago? Paul LoDuca should have made it, and Ishii too, but the frigging LA fans don't care yet until the Dodgers win the World Series. Then if they win all the "fans" will come out of the woodwork so they can riot and watch the parade. I live out here in Southern Cali, trust me, if the Dodgers win - THIS WILL HAPPEN - RIOTS AND A PARADE. Johnny Damon should have made it over Winn. Sexson and Hernandez both deserved it, the selections are made based on individual merit rather than team performance, so I don't have a problem with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Some Guy Report post Posted July 2, 2002 I really hope Damon makes it. Despite his recent slump he is the offensive and defensive reason the Red Sox had such a great start. Other than Lowe he is teh MVP of the Sox. I think it should be Tejada and Jeter who go and play 2B, they don't have numbers as good as A-Rod and Nomar and Omar is the best devensive SS in baseball. I hate the rule where every team has a rep, but I understand why they have it. The Sox had just Mo Vaugn or Wade Boggs and Clemens for a long time. I wouldn't have cared if they weren't there. Last year Manny was the only one who played and after his one AB (he struck out) I didn't care that much. Pedro declined the postition because he has gotten hurt at this part of the season 3 years in a row and he wants to pitch in meaningful games all year. Remeber 99 at Fenway when he struck out 5-6? That's when the shoulder problems started. BTW he pitched 8 shutout innings yesterday with 14 Ks. That's who we want on the Sox and none of Boston cares that he won't be playing. Someone else will get the spot. Hopefully Urbina, after a rough start he has been dominent, his last appearence not with standing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted July 2, 2002 No Weaver instead of Fick. Hernandez is having a nice year but if Edgar Renteria was picked ahead of him, would be people be upset no. Because people reliaze that a bad team like the Brewers usually only have 1 player on the team. Like any of this matters. 4 or 5 guys will miss the game and all the guys that got left off will end up on the team anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Redhawk Report post Posted July 2, 2002 Can they just get rid of the "Every team must be represented" thing? Because, in my opinion, no one on a team as bad as the Tampa Bay Devil Rays deserves to be an All-Star. Sure, MLB might get a few more viewers from cities like Tampa or San Diego who may not have had any reps without the rule, but how many viewers do they lose because casual fans don't recognize half the roster? If the NBA did something similar, than Tyson Chandler would have been in the All-Star game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jimmy no nose Report post Posted July 2, 2002 If they did away with the every team gets a player rule I think my Pirates would have 2 players despite being awful. Giles was clearly better than Dunn, but the Reds needed a player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest alkeiper Report post Posted July 3, 2002 I think Dunn has earned the right on merit. I'd take him over Gonzalez. Funny thing is. all 16 teams in the NL have at least one player who deserves a spot on merit. Even the Padres have Trevor Hoffman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DrTom Report post Posted July 3, 2002 "Can they just get rid of the "Every team must be represented" thing? Because, in my opinion, no one on a team as bad as the Tampa Bay Devil Rays deserves to be an All-Star." Amen. This is the first thing I would change about the All-Star selection process. Some teams are just perennially shitty and worthless, and franchise apathy should not be rewarded with a mandatory slot on the All-Star team. Randy Winn's a decent player and all, but the Devil Rays are the worst-run franchise I've ever seen, and I think it's a travesty someone has to wear their colors in an All-Star game. The only teams that should be required to have representation are the previous season's World Series teams (easy, since they usually have good players, and the WS managers run the All-Star teams) and whatever city is hosting the game. All other selections should be entirely on merit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kingpk Report post Posted July 3, 2002 Good that Damon got his due by getting voted in. Randy Winn...........sheesh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jimmy no nose Report post Posted July 3, 2002 The only teams that should be required to have representation are the previous season's World Series teams (easy, since they usually have good players, and the WS managers run the All-Star teams) and whatever city is hosting the game. All other selections should be entirely on merit. Why have any teams guarenteed players? If the whole team falls apart after the WS or the host team is say the Devil Rays why should they be given a player? People rarely go to the All Star Game to see a crappy home team player anyway. They just want to see good players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DrTom Report post Posted July 3, 2002 "If the whole team falls apart after the WS or the host team is say the Devil Rays why should they be given a player?" Fair enough, but how often do entire teams collapse after winning a Series? Even a fire sale leaves someone worthwhile behind. The host city should be represented just so at-large fans have someone to cheer for. It's a nod of appreciation, if you will. Besides, the required slots I mentioned take up three roster spots out of 60. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kingpk Report post Posted July 3, 2002 Ugueth Urbina takes Pedro's place on the team. Hey Joe, why no Yankee pitchers? Afraid Roger will give up a few hits and leave with an "injury"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Some Guy Report post Posted July 3, 2002 That's 7 All Stars for the Red Sox counting Pedro. I wonder when the last time that happened? Do you think that Johnny Damon is glad he signed here? I do. He got a huge ovation when thet announced he made the team last night. People here realize just how damn goo he is, he got cheered once for being thrown out trying to steal. We like the effort and he undoubtedly deserves to be an All Star. I think Torre realizes that none of his pitchers really deserve to be there. The numbers just aren't there and Rivera has been hurt and somewhat inconsistant this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest thebear Report post Posted July 6, 2002 We Could Only Dream For: OF- La Parka overtakes Sammy Sosa (1,430,329) Votes OF - Cycolpe overtakes Vladimir Guerrerro (938,238) votes P - El Dandy holds lead over Tom Glavine (742,328) votes No Steroids For the mexican contingent *L* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites