Guest wolverine Report post Posted July 3, 2002 Link below: http://www.thedailycamera.com/bdc/city_new...1244376,00.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BionicRedneck Report post Posted July 3, 2002 AAAAAAAWWWW Shit! I really like Vader, i didn't know he had any drink problems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nezbyte Report post Posted July 3, 2002 Just because you get shitfaces one night and get in trouble doesnt mean you have a drinkning problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BionicRedneck Report post Posted July 3, 2002 "Just because you get shitfaces one night and get in trouble doesnt mean you have a drinkning problem." The article says: "According to the Colorado Bureau of Investigation, he has two previous drinking and driving arrests in Boulder County." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nezbyte Report post Posted July 3, 2002 Yeah, and? It doesnt mean he has a drinking problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dreamer420 Report post Posted July 3, 2002 he's lived in boulder for ahwile now too and if his arrests have come while at home that is probably a good thing. it still sucks that he got arrested but if you do the crime, be prepared to do the time as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RickyChosyu Report post Posted July 4, 2002 Yeah, and? It doesnt mean he has a drinking problem. When a substance repeatedly gets you into trouble and you go on abusing regardless, it's a problem. That's pretty much the definition of drinking problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ace309 Report post Posted July 4, 2002 What scares me is thinking about how *much* Vader would have to drink to get shitfaced. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nezbyte Report post Posted July 5, 2002 Yeah, and? It doesnt mean he has a drinking problem. When a substance repeatedly gets you into trouble and you go on abusing regardless, it's a problem. That's pretty much the definition of drinking problem. Untrue, just means you have shit for luck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RickyChosyu Report post Posted July 5, 2002 Untrue, just means you have shit for luck. Getting caught plastered three times and attacking people isn't bad luck, it's a drinking problem. Hate to sound repetative, but the medical description of a drinking problem is (more or less): An amount of drinking that leads to problomatic incidents, and those incidents fail to prevent the user from continuing drinking. Essentially, if you keep getting into trouble for drinking and still cant' stop yourself, you have a drinking problem. Luck has nothing to do with it. Do you think a guy that plastered would have avoided cops for long? How long do you think it would have been before he did it again? Hate to spoil your fun, but that sort of addiction doesn't go away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nezbyte Report post Posted July 5, 2002 Untrue, just means you have shit for luck. Getting caught plastered three times and attacking people isn't bad luck, it's a drinking problem. Hate to sound repetative, but the medical description of a drinking problem is (more or less): An amount of drinking that leads to problomatic incidents, and those incidents fail to prevent the user from continuing drinking. Essentially, if you keep getting into trouble for drinking and still cant' stop yourself, you have a drinking problem. Luck has nothing to do with it. Do you think a guy that plastered would have avoided cops for long? How long do you think it would have been before he did it again? Hate to spoil your fun, but that sort of addiction doesn't go away. Really? You know he drinks constantly? Isnt it possible he goes out and has gotten caught under the influence. My dad has driven while legally intoxicated - we got home fine. Addiction my ass, i dont buy that shit at all. But that's another topic for another day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wolverine Report post Posted July 5, 2002 WHAT ABOUT THE FREAKING BULLFROGS? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RickyChosyu Report post Posted July 6, 2002 Really? You know he drinks constantly? Isnt it possible he goes out and has gotten caught under the influence. My dad has driven while legally intoxicated - we got home fine. Addiction my ass, i dont buy that shit at all. But that's another topic for another day. When did I say he drinks constantly? You don't have to drink constantly to have a drinking problem. There are binge drinkers everywhere who drink only to get completely plastered, and do it on a consistant basis, completely fucking up their lives in the process; are they supposedly victims of shitty luck, too? If he drinks enough to total his car, get in a fight with the cops, and then continues his habbit, it's an addiction. Any person who has gone through what Leon has and also posesses rational thought always knows they're going to get plastered and out of control if they drink again; the line between "addicted" and "not" is drawn between which person says "fine, I'll avoid it for my own well-being" and the person who says "fuck it, I just want to be drunk" and does it anyway. Again, I don't see how you can interchange "getting caught under the influence" and "totalling your car, attacking police officers, and yelling out death threats at a dog" as the same thing. They obviously aren't, and while it is possible for your dad to have gotten you guys home while legally intoxicated, it's unsafe, and frankly, you could have been killed. Now, that has nothing to do with this topic unless you want to discuss whether or not your dad had a drinking problem (which I doubt you do), but hey, you brought it up, not me. Drinking and driving isn't safe; Jesus, you'd think after hearing that for the thousanth time some people would actually accept it on face value, but I guess that's asking to much of today's youth. Hey, if you don't think addiction exists, ask Leon White- or any other major alchohol offender- to stop drinking and see what answer he/she gives you. Or don't; it appears you're happier being ignorant to the whole thing anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jubuki Report post Posted July 6, 2002 It appears "happier being ignorant" is as far as that sentence needs to go, considering this thread and others. "I've held firecrackers in my hand before and didn't have it blown off - I don't believe it when you say a 6-year-old would lose fingers!" ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vyce Report post Posted July 6, 2002 I still mark for Vader. Guy gets pissed, and picks a fight with two dangerous, highly trained police dogs, who could probably tear him to shreds if allowed to do so. He picks a fight with them, and is so vicious, that the officers take the dogs away for their own safety. The big, drunk son of a bitch stared down two police dogs and WON. Screw Vince, now that is RUTHLESS AGGRESSION~! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nezbyte Report post Posted July 6, 2002 "Now, that has nothing to do with this topic unless you want to discuss whether or not your dad had a drinking problem " Fuck you, it was an example. Eat shit. I've seen some of you assholes brind up totally disconnected ideas and incorperate them into a discussion - i did the same - get off my cock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RickyChosyu Report post Posted July 6, 2002 "Now, that has nothing to do with this topic unless you want to discuss whether or not your dad had a drinking problem " Fuck you, it was an example. Eat shit. I've seen some of you assholes brind up totally disconnected ideas and incorperate them into a discussion - i did the same - get off my cock. Ok, what was that example supposed to prove? Disconnected ideas usually have a point or can portray a similiar circumstance to the one being discussed, and yours did not, so why did you say it? To prove that drinking and driving is ok? Who is that supposed to fool? It's not my fault you brought up something rather personal for literally no reason, so there's no reason on your part to get indignant because I pointed it out. I think Chris's quote pretty much sums up with your attitude on the issue, and frankly, I can't be bothered to argue with someone who is obviously unwilling to listen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites