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Guest The Mighty Damaramu
Posted

Ok I used to defend Scott Keith like he was my cult leader but I'm fed up with him. Does he like anything? I loved Raw and SD! and he pretty much bashes both shows. He's become so into it that if it isn't what he exactly wants then he hates it.

You know we all want to see what we want. It's human nature. But I don't demand that the WWF do everything right down to the way I want it done. When they do something on SD! that I didn't even think of(Rey off the cage, Brock showing himself as a monster, Edge getting over at the end with him, Rey, and Cena being played up as major players along with Team Canada) then I get happy. I didn't ask for it to happen but it happened and was good. But it seems that if it doesn't happen like Keith asked it to happen then he hates it.

I'll still read his rants but more as a source of entertainment...not as anything serious.

Guest Downhome
Posted

This, ladies and gentlemen, is a reason that I have never taken the time to read any of his work. I may be a smark, but I am not a totaly perfectionist and whatnot when it comes to this sport. I can't stand people who can NEVER see any good in anything that is put on the TV unless it's EXACLY what THEY feel should happen, and for that I have never taken him seriously in the first place.

Guest Downhome
Posted

For the sake of discussion, would you mind posting some excerts of his latest, pointless, rambling?

Guest DARRYLXWF
Posted

Let Keith be Keith. Nothing will change the way he is.

Guest The Mighty Damaramu
Posted

It's more his rant as a whole. He wasn't happy with the show at all. Jeff Marek over at WO gave it a A- and they're usually pretty harsh. I don't think Keith will ever be happy unless we're time warped to 2000.

Guest Downhome
Posted
It's more his rant as a whole. He wasn't happy with the show at all. Jeff Marek over at WO gave it a A- and they're usually pretty harsh. I don't think Keith will ever be happy unless we're time warped to 2000.

*sigh*, not to put down whom many of you procaim as a "god", but Missy Keith seems to be the very type of fan that WWE doesn't need, nor want, anymore. Give props when they are due, that's all I will say. :) :) :)

Guest The Man in Blak
Posted

Not to say that I'm a whole hearted Keith supporter or anything...but I wasn't really blown away by Raw either.

 

It's just a differing opinion and, right now, I guess Keith isn't really digging the WWE in its current state.

 

And to me, despite Bischoff coming in and multiple reset-button shows, it still seems (at least to me) like the WWE is still in transition. It just doesn't seem strong all the way around.

 

But I'm rambling.

I'll just say that Keith earns his spot by giving his opinion...and that's just what his opinion is right now.

Guest Downhome
Posted
And to me, despite Bischoff coming in and multiple reset-button shows, it still seems (at least to me) like the WWE is still in transition. It just doesn't seem strong all the way around.

Then you at least "get it". It will take some time for WWE to finally seem like they are OUT of the transistion, because the truth is, they are STILL very much still in one. There is still a lot of work to be done, but at least WWE if finally taking some steps in order to get the job done. I'm sure even you however, can find some good in RAW and SD can't you? If nothing else, the obvious attempt to get back on track.

Guest The Man in Blak
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Then you at least "get it". It will take some time for WWE to finally seem like they are OUT of the transistion, because the truth is, they are STILL very much still in one. There is still a lot of work to be done, but at least WWE if finally taking some steps in order to get the job done. I'm sure even you however, can find some good in RAW and SD can't you? If nothing else, the obvious attempt to get back on track.

Then do you expect Keith to understand that the WWE is in transition and "adjust their grade accordingly"? Not hardly. It's certainly not fair to the amazing periods of wrestling to grade stuff that's obviously inferior as being "all thumbs up".

 

And even still, Keith did find some good in Raw - I believe at the end of his report, he mentioned that he liked the show, but there were just some things that gave him a WCW-esque aftertaste that he didn't appreciate. If you really want to see Keith trash a show, dig deeeeep into his archives for the WCW Thunder recaps.

 

Sure, Keith does get into ruts where he does seem to criticize damn near everything...but it's not like the WWE hasn't given him a lot to work with, as of late.

Guest RavishingRickRudo
Posted

Funny... I find that Keith is too easy on the Wwf...

 

Well, in terms of match ratings. Eddie vs. RVD was a good ladder match, but not ****.

Guest mach7
Posted

First, why you'd want to defend someone who recaps shows is beyond me. They're just opinions. Everyone has them. You, me, Scott Keith, Tommy Fiero. No one is forcing anyone to read them. So just click 'back' and move on with life. It will make things much easier. :)

Guest DrTom
Posted

As the resident Smackdown guy, I thought last night's show was pretty good. I also liked Raw... they're building a good, competitive vibe between the shows, which has been missing since the split happened. This is another new era, but at least it's off to a good start thus far.

Guest nikowwf
Posted

I don't like SK's rants lately cause they are so half hearted. He talked about the Cena/Test match as a standard little man upset. But Cena got so much offense....its like he didn't even watch the match.

 

Lately his rants are um...** whatever crap, looks like wcw, i liked it but i dont like the future direction, blah blah. His rants are much better when the show is bad, which I don't understand.

 

niko

Guest nl5xsk1
Posted

It's funny, sometimes while I'm watching a show that I'm really liking/disliking, I actually think to myself how much I'm looking forward to reading the reviews the next day, and seeing how little I agree with some of them. It's always funny to watch Raw one night, and really like it, and the next day see someone (and not necessarily SK) blast it for whatever reason.

Guest thebigjig
Posted

You gotta wonder when Keith is just finally going to give up his recapping job... I mean honestly, if he hates the product so much and has hated it for a long time, then why the hell does he continue to waste his time writing out rants?

 

 

My personal feeling is this...

 

We've been force fed alot of crap for a very long time... we have all complained about the WWE's lack of direction, horrible storylines, uninspired wrestling etc etc etc... and now, finally, the WWE not only has direction, but has motivation. More emphasis is being placed on wrestling and making the storyline mean something... it's finally making sense. There is finally attention to detail...

 

and he still complains. Well you know something? I think Keith has been ranting and raving so long that he's accustomed to being negative. No matter how good the product is, he's going to bitch about it. Well, I think it's time for my favorite Canadian (and I'm being sarcastic) to take a break from wrestling... just walk away from it for a few months, or hell, maybe even a year, and then come back to it with recharged batteries.

Guest cabbageboy
Posted

I did think Keith had some points as to why the new direction is odd. He was perplexed as to why anyone would care who defected to Raw or SMDN since really it doesn't matter. However, I'm not so immersed in finding fault that I can't sit back and be entertained by these cliffhanger angles.

 

In terms of 2000, that is one of the single most overrated time periods I can think of. The wrestling was good (at the top anyway) but the entire year was so horribly booked it defies logic. The mind numbing McMahon/Helmsley era push, the lack of HHH getting a comeuppance, the retarded way his feud with Angle fizzled, Rikishi as the car driver, Rock winning the title in a 6 man tag. I'm sorry but I have no fondness for the time period.

Guest nikowwf
Posted

"However, I'm not so immersed in finding fault that I can't sit back and be entertained by these cliffhanger angles."

 

You've about summed up as well as possible what's wrong with Scott Keith's rants lately.

 

Niko

Guest Brian
Posted

But really for like six months it was a great period with a great upper card and subsequent lower card with strong wrestling and angles to boot that carried great, amazing buyrates with great ratings and incredible live attendance.

 

As for Keith, my main quarrel besides his negativity is his failing to really define how he sees the rating system. At one point he was on Meltzer's definition of the scale but now it seems he's just throwing them out however he feels, the high stuf higher usuall, and low and middle stuff sort of just is bland.

Guest oldschoolwrestling
Posted

It seems a lot of the writers have gotten bitter, but its just that one person's opinion. I enjoy reading Keith and Eric S. just to hear them whine and complain. I find it funny. I read RickSciaia knowing he'll like a lot of the stuff. Its' funny that everyone was crying when Eric Bischoff came and complained it was just another example of Vince throwing shit at the wall to see if it would stick, and now everyone is creaming their pants at the direction. I want things to turn around and am happy Eric is here, but if ratings go down the crapper next week, or next month, everyone will be bitching again.

Guest notJames
Posted

I agree with oldschoolwrestling. I read guys like SKeith, Eric S., Scaia, and even CRZ to be entertained by their writing, not to bolster or validate my own opinions of each show. These guys consistently write at an intelligent level, and keep things entertaining (yes, even Scaia), unlike a lot of the bubbleheaded IWC writers out there who machine-gun their way through their "think"pieces and go all "stream-of-consciousness" until their stuff is completely unreadable and unfunny. I think if people can put a clamp on their biases and just read the articles for what they are, they might just enjoy them. Or not. I don't know...

Guest FeArHaVoC
Posted

I've never been a part of SK's "Cult" following and I don't agree with alot of what Eric S. has to say. I just read them for the comedy.

 

I think of them like Anglesault. I don't agree with everything he says, but his comments crack me up.

Guest oldschoolwrestling
Posted

Fearhavoc, I read your posts just to check out the hotties you have in your sig.....

 

Not that your posts aren't good, but those women are hot!!!

Guest Spaceman Spiff
Posted

You know, there's a reason SK calls them "rants".

Guest FeArHaVoC
Posted
Fearhavoc, I read your posts just to check out the hotties you have in your sig.....

 

Not that your posts aren't good, but those women are hot!!!

Hey, you gotta get over somehow. B)

Guest Just call me Dan
Posted

Reading Keith's rants used to be a usual thing for me but he got so cynical I started becoming that way also reading each of his rants. He portrayed the WWE in such a bad light I didn't even want to watch anymore, it was like when I watched I thought " Wow, that show was pretty solid."

 

Keith's rant would say " Dman that show was a flaming peice of shit."

 

My opinion would then change to the latter.

 

Since I stopped reading them I enjoy shows much better and don't go in there with the glass is half empty attitude. He is too cynical for his own good and the ONLY reason I read some of his stuff is because I ususally regard his star ratings as true.

Guest NoCalMike
Posted

Just think of Scott Keith as the "Mr Cranky" of Wrestling reviewing. Mr. Cranky has his own gimmick which is to hate and rant on about every movie he sees, whether he thought is was damn good or not. I mean honestly, you don't go to Mr. Cranky's website to read reviews of movies you liked, you mostly go when you, yourself thought it was bad, and you want to hear some hilarious comments about how bad it was, that is kind of why I read Scott Keith when I think something is bad also. Well sort of anyway......

Guest AM The Kid
Posted

I used to enjoy reading his reviews to get an idea of how he liked the show. Now I always know how he hated it, I even think while watching the WWE; ohhh, SK isn't gonna be happy with that.

 

I just read his columns for a laugh now because he's becoming sooooooo cynical.

Guest oldschoolwrestling
Posted

Just for reference, here is how Scott Keith ended his last two columns:

 

Raw:

 

This show was certainly entertaining due to the enthusiastic crowd and the

energy of the talent involved, but it just left me with a nagging feeling

of something WCW-ish afterwards.

 

Smackdown:

 

Anyway, good long main event, good long tag team title match makes for a pretty good show overall to bail out the boring first hour.

 

 

I don't see that he is totally bashing the shows like he was a month or two ago when they really did suck and deserved to be shit upon.

Guest Just call me Dan
Posted

I agree with his last two lines of both shows as I even contimplated switching of Smackdown when seeing Anmgle curtain-jerk against Henry, Rikishi/Albert, etc. Raw was AWESOME to me, but I can see where he stands. Those two rants aren't the ones that did it in for me, but reading his rants for over a year they get repetitive and they are kind of depressing so I just watch and rant on my own.

Guest JHawk
Posted

As the resident Raw recapper for this site, I still read the other site's recaps. The sad thing is that SK and I used to agree on just about everything, but lately he doesn't even seem to want to recap.

 

"Here's a match. Here's a finish. Total dreck. *"

 

Rinse lather repeat.

 

But hey, he has a book deal. That he tells us about every freaking rant .

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