Guest Anglesault Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 A lot of people are complaining the booking of Angle/rey sucks because it destroys the Cruiser division with Angle's jokes. I personally feel that the whole idea for the match (At this point) is stupid because it really is no win. If Rey wins at all or Angle has to cheat, Kurt looks bad. If Angle wins, Rey and the cruisers look bad. So how would YOU book the Angle/Rey feud and match?
Guest chirs3 Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 Well, you could always use the ole' respect bit, with Angle winning a hard fought match and shaking Rey's hand afterward. *YAWN* Probably the best thing to do is a Rey win, but not the "Rollup from behind" which has become so popular these days. Make it a match, that takes everything out of both guys. And as funny as I thought it was, don't have Angle do the "I lost to a 12-year old!" bit. Put Rey over as a serious competitor, and Angle won't be hurt too much by the loss. Now if only they had figured that out with Cena...
Guest Incandenza Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 Angle goes over Rey cleanly, but much like with the Edge match at Backlash, it was a hard fought battle. You know, one of those "it's a shame someone had to lose" deals. Were they considering turning Angle face, they could even do the Handshake of Respect afterwards.
Guest Brian Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 True, the promos Angle has cut have made the cruiserweight division look like a joke but I think at this point Angle can sustain a short-term loss, keeping in mind it is only going to have a short-term impact since he's probably near an ascent to the top again.
Guest BionicRedneck Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 well, I dunno what is the best option. All i know is that Angle (and Mark Lloyd etc) treating Rey's win as a fluke is really pointless. I think Angle will probably win, but he will cheat. I would maybe put Rey over via interference, that way Angle doesn't look as weak, and Misterio doesn't lose his first PPV match. Plus, that could lead Kurt into his next fued.
Guest Incandenza Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 Yeah, if they jobbed Angle, I don't think it would hurt him. He's kinda like the Rock in that fashion; no matter what they do to him, he still gets good reactions from the crowd.
Guest chirs3 Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 Interference leading to a fued? Come on, you know the only guys who would run in to save Rey are Edge and Cena. Edit: Yes, that's a bad thing.
Guest Anglesault Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 True, the promos Angle has cut have made the cruiserweight division look like a joke but I think at this point Angle can sustain a short-term loss, keeping in mind it is only going to have a short-term impact since he's probably near an ascent to the top again. Angle has been jobbing lkeft and right. He can't take too many other losses.
Guest Anglesault Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 Yeah, if they jobbed Angle, I don't think it would hurt him. He's kinda like the Rock in that fashion; no matter what they do to him, he still gets good reactions from the crowd. But Rock ususally wins a big match later on. Angle has beaten two guys since KotR.
Guest Downhome Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 Ok, many are saying that neither one of these matches (Angle Vs. Mysterio and Brock Vs. Rocky) can truly have anything come from it. If Angle looses to Mysterio, it makes Angle look bad. If Angle cheats to beat Mysterio, it makes Angle look out to be that much less credible, and hurts Mysterio's push. On the other side, people say that not too much can come from Brock/Rocky. If Brock wins, well, I don't need to explain, and if Rocky just flat out beats Brock fairly it only hurts Brock more than he already is hurting, and we need to limit that as much as possible. Well, it does NOT have to be like that. Just hear me out... first off, concerning Kurt Angle Vs. Brock Lesnar, they should give the bout no less than 15 minutes of non stop action. Just let them run wild with it, all inside the ring, right at ringside, etc... I would then have Brock Lesnar come out while the ref and Rey Mysterio isn't looking, and just absolutely destroy Kurt Angle, I'm talking just goes mad ass ape crazy on him, you know the deal. Brock then shoots what is becoming his patented smile, and walks to the back, while Paul Heyman meets him just yelling at him, telling him he's going crazy. I'd then have Rey Mysterio start coming to, and since he didn't see what happened, I'd have Rey pull something fancy out of his hat to "finish" Kurt, something from the top rope perhaps, which wouldn't need for Angle to even get up after what Brock did. The ref then begins to get up, makes the count, and we have many things acomplished... 1) We just saw one hell of a match. 2) Brock Lesnar continues the program with Angle. 3) Rey got the small rub from Angle, as Angle seems to have no problem with that. ...now where they could go with this, they have plenty of options. Rey Mysterio would then just move on to something else, as he now looks that much better. As for Brock, they can either have him beat Rocky in the main event for the title (the option I wouldn't choose), or they could have Rocky defeat Brock to retain the title, after Angle interferes. Here, is how I'd book this... ...in the main event, I'd have Brock be going off on Rocky, as Rocky is great at selling for people, and this could help make Brock look really good. Sometime in the match, I'd have Rocky toss Brock out of the ring on the side towards the entrance way as he charges him, and brock hits his head on the apron and goes down on the oustide. On the other side of the ring, Paul gets up on the apron to distract Rocky, and in turn distracts the ref. Then, Kurt Angle comes out, bandged up and limping, and locks the Angel Lock (that's my name for it) on the downed Brock. I'm not talking just barely does it, he goes crazy on it, and almost breaks snaps it into. Angle then throws Brock back in the ring, and just leaves doing his smile, as the crowd begins to side with Angle, finally. Rock turns around, as does the ref, not knowing what just happened, and waits for Brock to get up, and he barely can as he is limping from his ankle being almost broken. He goes for the Rock Bottom, but Brock reverses it with an elbow. He tosses Rock into the ropes, and when he shoots back towards him, he goes for the F5. Right as he's about to drop Rocky, his ankle gives way, and they build it up as it just gave away, and just finally snapped under the presure (oh my God, using an injury from earlier in the match like this, it would be shocking!). Rocky then goes for the peoples elbow, but Brock kicks out. Rock then goes into his waiting posistion again, Brock begins to get up, but can only stand on one foot, and BANG, Rocky hits Brock with the Rock Bottom, and gets the win, finally. Now damnit, if they want to make Summerslam a show to remember, and actually deliver with a huge positive in two of the main matches, while also weaving them into one another, while also furthering more than one angle at the same time, then THIS is the way to do it. If you ask me, it sounds like a hell of a plan. We then have Rocky still as the champ, ready to drop it to Angle perhaps on the next Smackdown (Rock gives him the shot out of respect) or to someone like Benoit, etc (perhaps Brock could cost Rock the title, just to get back at him, and to put it on Angle as he knows that is his next "target" and he wants him to have the title, so he can take it from the guy who injured him)..., we do NOT have Brock as the champion yet, we have Angle on his way to being a huge face, we have Brock begining to develop, and on the side we have Rey coming off of a damn fine match, with a huge victory under his belt. Yeah, I think all of that sounds great if you ask me, suckaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
Guest Big McLargeHuge Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 Rey murders Angle for 10 minutes, kicks out of 3 Angle Slams, his the Rana and beats him. HHH then comes out Pedigrees Angle 3 times and pulls his tights down. That my friends, is how you book it. Serious Answer: Angle beats Rey clean, after a shit load of near falls. Angle afterwards is shocked that the little guy put up such a fight. 'Sides, if this is a real fued, the WWE only knows how to advance fueds one way: Have the heel go over, until the face finally wins. (Note: this does not apply to HHH)
Guest BionicRedneck Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 I wouldn't say jobbing left and right. He is the most over guy in WWE, plus i'm sure none of the marks even remember any of his losses. He gets constantly put over by Tazz/Cole as the premier superstar on SmackDown, he is in a pretty good position.
Guest Anglesault Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 I wouldn't say jobbing left and right Kotr: Beats Hogan Next SD!: Beats John Cena with a backslide Nest SD!: Dras taker NSD!: Loses to Taker and Cena (with Jericho) NSD!: Loses to Rock Vengeance: Loses to Rock NSD!: loses to Mark Henry NSD!: Loses to Hulk Hogan, hets ass kicked NSD!: Loses to Cena, loses to Rey NSD!: Beats Mark Henry, gets ass kicked by Rey and Edge.
Guest BionicRedneck Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 How about: after a hard fought battle Misterio gets the clean win over Angle. This would put Misterio over BIG TIME, not that shitty "fluke" win he got on SmackDown. Angle is so impressed by Misterio that he shakes his hand, and turns face. Then on SmackDown Angle saves Rey from a beatdown, by say New Undisputed Champion Brock Lesnar, which leads to an Angle/Lesnar world title fued. I do realise this is unlikely, but...
Guest Big McLargeHuge Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 Kotr: Beats Hogan Next SD!: Beats John Cena with a backslide Nest SD!: Dras taker NSD!: Loses to Taker and Cena (with Jericho) NSD!: Loses to Rock Vengeance: Loses to Rock NSD!: loses to Mark Henry NSD!: Loses to Hulk Hogan, hets ass kicked NSD!: Loses to Cena, loses to Rey NSD!: Beats Mark Henry, gets ass kicked by Rey and Edge. You seem to be the only one who remembers or even cares about it. If I don't, I'm sure marks don't either.
Guest Brian Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 The only things I remember of Angle were him beating Hogan and him beating Henry last SmackDown. The three-way is sort of a blur. And that's what most casual fans see unless someone realy just continues losing and gets made to look lie a chump. Heck, they might not even remember last SmackDown.
Guest BionicRedneck Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 Loses to Taker and Cena (with Jericho) Loses to Rock loses to Rey These were his only Pinfall defeats, right?
Guest FeArHaVoC Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 I'd have every single Cruiserweight come out at the end of the match and beat the Hell out of Angle for all the short jokes. Seriously, I wouldn't have done this in the first place and we would have had Rey Vs Noble. But, like many of you have said, a bunch of near falls and a hard fought match with Angle going over in the end and putting Rey over at the same time.
Guest Anglesault Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 that's what most casual fans see unless someone realy just continues losing and gets made to look lie a chump. Like losing two matches in one show?
Guest Big McLargeHuge Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 Angle lost two matches in one show? And this was last week's Smackdown?
Guest Anglesault Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 Loses to Taker and Cena (with Jericho) Loses to Rock loses to Rey These were his only Pinfall defeats, right? Yeah, all his DQ losses were basically portrayed as him being an incompetent buffoon who needed to be rescued by Brock or Taker or Benoit, or in the Hogan case, a moron who couldn't cheat properly.
Guest BionicRedneck Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 Angle has always been booked like a buffoon. Its his character.
Guest Anglesault Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 Angle has always been booked like a buffoon. Its his character. And if they want to move him up to the main events, they MUST stop that and give hims WINS
Guest FeArHaVoC Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 Maybe they don't want to move him up to the Main Event? ::hides::
Guest Big McLargeHuge Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 He's certainly not ready to carry the company.
Guest Anglesault Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 Maybe they don't want to move him up to the Main Event? ::hides:: Then the last three months are the most pointless shows on WWF TV they have had.
Guest BionicRedneck Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 I dunno if he is ready to carry the company, maybe. I mean with Angle as champ didn't the buy rates drop, whereas Jericho (who was booked even weaker than Kurt) kept the company at the level they were?
Guest Mulatto Heat Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 Maybe they don't want to move him up to the Main Event? ::hides:: Are you talking about Angle? So... Angle isn't ready, but Lesnar is? Did I miss something?
Guest BionicRedneck Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 Only the WWE believes Brock is ready for the main event, no one else. Sadly, they are the only ones that matter.
Guest Mulatto Heat Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 Whatever happened to the days of "we let the fans decide who to push" (see: Austin in 1996/7)?
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