Guest Imarkout4chrisdaniels Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 I was downloading some wrestling matches and clips today, and came across one that said....."KANE'S FACE." I read the description, and it said it was the Undertaker's original entrance video. "Kane was the first Undertaker," or something to that effect. What the hell are these people on? I've also argued on and on with idiots who KNOW FOR A FACT that there has been more than one Kane, and that this new Kane is much bigger and more ripped than the first one. Also, there were at least 3 or four Ultimate Warrior's. What are some things that you have heard idiots say? And please, PLEASE.......refrain from going the cheap pop route of saying "________ is a quality wrestler." Half would put Test, and the others HHH. Let's get through a topic without stuff like that, just to see if it can be done.
Guest FeArHaVoC Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 People who still think Montreal was a work.
Guest Mulatto Heat Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 -Paul Roma and Tom Brandi being the same person. -The NWO being in existence right up until WCW's demise. -Austin making a return at Summerslam.
Guest takapac Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 Do you mean marks? If so, then that feuds, character traits and relationships are genuinely real, i.e. Kane and UT are really brothers. For a good laugh, read the letters section of any mark magazine, including WWE's.
Guest notJames Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 If you want to be a historical purist... ...When Mark Calloway first came into the WWF at Survivor Series, he was billed as Kane the Undertaker. Shortly after, they reduced it to just The Undertaker. And the only time there was another Kane was when the Undertaker dressed up like him. But just to keep with the topic, I know some people who still think Jimmy Snuka can come back as a top wrestler, maybe even do his Superfly Splash. Yeah, maybe if you put some coke on the top rope, he'll climb up there to get it...
Guest Dr. Wrestlingphysics Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 I know people who think that there was more than one Kane, and believe that Jerry Lawler and Brian Christopher aren't father and son, cos if they were "Jerry would have said so when announcing".
Guest SlowChemical6 Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 ...When Mark Calloway first came into the WWF at Survivor Series, he was billed as Kane the Undertaker. No. He debuted at the 1990 Survivor Series as The Undertaker. Afterwards, they lengthened it to Kane The Undertaker. Then Brother Love passed him off to Paul Bearer, and it was shortened back to just plain old The Undertaker.
Guest Fook_Hing_Ho Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 "Bret and Owen aren't really brothers" "Edge and Christian are really brothers" "Vince only became the owner in 1997, before that he was just an announcer"
Guest Olympic Slam Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 I know people who think that there was more than one Kane, and believe that Jerry Lawler and Brian Christopher aren't father and son, cos if they were "Jerry would have said so when announcing". I've also heard the same thing from a few people swearing that Vince and Shane aren't really related.
Guest oldschoolwrestling Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 Some scmuck in a chatroom one time was saying that he saw an interview with Jean Claude-Van Dam where he talked about RVD being his brother. My wife won't believe that the current Undertaker has always been the same one. And she knows about the Undertaker vs Undertaker storyline and still won't believe it.
Guest Youth N Asia Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 I had one assface spend 10 minutes trying to convince me "THe Butcher" (his gimmick back then) and Hogan were really brothers.
Guest Jack Tunney Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 Me at the lunch table in 10th grade:..... other kid-ECW is real yo. me-no it's not,no wrestling is real. other kid-uh huh,it's real I was there live. me-no,wrestling has to be fake.That's just how it works. other kid-no,only the WWF is fake because it's gay as hell. another moment.... other kid-I remember when Hulk Hogan won the title at WMIII me-no,Hulk was the champ going into the match. other kid-nuh uh,I have the damn tape!!!! (he must've not watched it in a while then)
Guest alfdogg Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 When I was in 6th grade, this kid told me he was in Ultimate Warrior's will.
Guest Strike Force! Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 I don't know if it was before or after Survivor Series '90, but right around the time he debuted, he was called Kane the Undertaker. That IS a fact. When exactly it was, I don't know
Guest Mulatto Heat Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 It couldn't have been before.
Guest Dr. Wrestlingphysics Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 I don't know if it was before or after Survivor Series '90, but right around the time he debuted, he was called Kane the Undertaker. That IS a fact. When exactly it was, I don't know The following are FACTS. He debuted as the mystery 4th man in Ted DiBiase's team at Survivor series 1990 (the one with the Gobbeldygooker). He was introduced by Ted, was accompanied by his manager Brother Love, was announced as being from Death Valley, and was announced as The Undertaker. This is not my memory playing tricks as I saw this tape less than 6 months ago. He may or may not have been Kane the Undertaker after, I don't know, but at his Debut, he was The Undertaker.
Guest TheRockIsTheEuropeanChampion Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 From time to time I've heard something about Owen Hart's death being faked. Then again, these same people always want to see OTE '99... Hm.
Guest MrBiznatch Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 Actually wasn't it Cain the Undertaker.......I doubt they spelled it Kane. I still have my doubts on the Montreal Screwjob.......there's just too many holes. Plus I watched Wrestling with Shadows again and there was just way too much foreshadowing in it, and no I don't mean clips formed around match time or afterwards, I mean foreshadowing in the clips taken from before it ever happened. But I'm not here to start a debate on it. I had an argument with a guy that really still thought Big Show was Andre the Giant's son.
Guest TheRockIsTheEuropeanChampion Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 My dad & brother used to tease me and say that X-Pac was Scott Hall's son.
Guest Mulatto Heat Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 From time to time I've heard something about Owen Hart's death being faked. Oh yeah, I've heard that one before.
Guest The Czech Republic Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 The previous five Ultimate Warriors died from steroids. The original Undertaker died. X-Pac was the original Juventud Guerrera. Scott Steiner died in 1995.
Guest TheRockIsTheEuropeanChampion Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 There have been two Hulk Hogans. "I've seen it with my own eyes!" I think the first one died or something... I think I heard about Mabel dying a few years ago... That wasn't true, was it?!
Guest The Czech Republic Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 That is false, however it's true that he slipped and fell once.
Guest TheBlurricane Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 thank God there isn't two Hulk Hogans.
Guest Insane Bump Machine Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 thank God there isn't two Hulk Hogans. well, there ARE two HHH's
Guest Anglesault Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 There has been more than one Paul bearer. None of the McMahon's are related. (No, they just found two younger people who are fucking spitting image of Vince McMahon)
Guest Slingshot Suplex Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 We once got into a heated argument at a WWF show with a woman who swore up and down that Jake Roberts was a former Intercontinental champion. There's nothing like the WWF live!
Guest cynicalprofit Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 Theres a girl at my school who swears there were 2 undertakers...no. Other then that, ppl still think WM3 was a passing of the torch moment due to vinces repated saying that it was....no it wasnt.
Guest Olympic Slam Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 Apparently some people I knew in high school thought that Edge, Test and Christian were all brothers. Although I'm one to talk, I accepted that Hardcore and Crash Holly could have been cousins when Crash first came to the WWF.
Guest BionicRedneck Posted August 19, 2002 Report Posted August 19, 2002 A lot of people have said to me "The first Ultimate Warrior died"
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