I'm really afraid

[Guest Paranoid]

I have been watching wrestling in all forms for over twenty years. I have seen alot of build ups and after seeing Booker get the pin on Trips at RAW, that tells me that there is a good chance he might win at SSeries. Just knowing that there is a chance he might be the next champ scares the hell out of me. RVD deserves it alot more than him. Hell, give it to Jericho, but not Booker. What do you guys think?

[Guest MarvinisaLunatic]

Booker T won't win, but if they are smart they'll leave him in there longer than Kane, Jericho and RVD. That would be the perfect set up for Armageddon and a Booker T vs HHH match. It would at least be something new for a change..Plus he'd get to say "Don't hate the playa, hate the Game" some more...which I always thought was a shot at HHH even when he was in WCW.

[Guest AnnieEclectic]

let's just make a list in order of who we'd like to see win here....

 

 

1) RVD

2) Booker T (is it me or is he gaining more and more moveset?)

3) Jericho

4) HBK

5) Kane

6) Trips

 

HBK at 4? simple, he can pull a hogan, only have a real match till the PPV... and he's better than Kane/Trips. but still.... RVD or Booker.

 

-Annie

[Guest evenflowDDT]

I'd still much rather see Booker T win then RVD, simply because a championship win wouldn't do anything for RVD's character.

[Guest Paranoid]

In all honesty I would love to see Shawn win. But I am realistic. It would be great if he got it and retire graciously. As long as Booker NEVER wins the belt I will be happy. I would rather see Trips keep it then Booker win!

 

:::Gets out flame retardent suit:::

[Guest evenflowDDT]

What's so bad about a Booker win? He's a good worker, and he actually cares about the belt (as implied by his "five time, five time..." chant). I'm not going to flame you, I'm just curious.

[Guest Zero_Cool]

If you see a Harlem Hangover from Booker in the match..you know he's winning it.

 

That being said, I see Triple H retaining after the writing staff somehow books themselves into a corner.

[Guest Paranoid]

What's so bad about a Booker win? He's a good worker, and he actually cares about the belt (as implied by his "five time, five time..." chant). I'm not going to flame you, I'm just curious.

I loved Booker back in his Halem Heat days. But after he went single he has yet to impress me enough to accept him as a World Champ, even in WCW. He is a good worker, I agree. He'll job to anybody if the boss ask, but so would X-pac. I love the Harlem/Houston Hangover, but he never uses it. The Axe kick just plain sucks and the only good thing he he has ever said on the mic is the "Don't hate the player, hate the game!' line. I would rather see RVD win it since I know Shawn won't. He hasn't had the World Title since coming to the WWE. At least Booker has had it before.

[Guest Leena]

HHH deserves it because the belt is worthless.

[Guest AnnieEclectic]

He'll job to anybody if the boss ask, but so would X-pac.

You make some valid points, but in reference to that...

 

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

 

ahhh... that was good.

 

-Annie

[Guest Smell the ratings!!!]

Let's go to the ol' checklist.

 

RVD

Pro: Over, Good matches

Con: Buried for a month straight, writers may possibly have forgotten that he's in the match

 

Booker

Pro: Over, Good matches, Seems to be recieving a push

Con: Black, WCW, pinned HHH 6 days before match.

 

Jericho

Pro: Over, Good matches, seems to be recieving a push

Con: Heel, Jobber

 

Kane

Pro: .......uh oh.

Con: Let's just take pity on him and move on.

 

HBK

Pro: Over, Not boring yet, Is in a strange state of perma-push

Con: Can't wrestle due to crippling back injury, goes over HHH every week for like 2 months now

 

HHH

Pro: Champion, Sleeps with writer/owner's daughter

Con: Sucks, hated

 

 

OK, so right off the bat, Jericho, RVD, and Kane have no chance.

 

Booker is being pushed, but he's probably being pushed so HHH can beat him, judging by pinning him tonight, and suddenly insulting him tonight after ignoring him for the rest of history. his chances aren't too good.

 

HBK seems to be going the "Legend" route, like Hogan did. This is good because the fans will cheer for you a few months even if you suck ass. Plus, he was probably promised something in exchange for wasting his life on this crappy show. He has a chance.

 

HHH has sex with one of the head writers. I think he's gotta be the favorite going in.

[Guest The Mighty Damaramu]

Annie might I say you avatar is one of the hottest pics of Steph(before she became ms. funbags)*Edit* the one of her in the black dress holding the belt........where did it go?

 

Anyways I have a sinking feeling that HHH will win it.....but god I hope not.

[Guest Paranoid]

Con: Can't wrestle due to crippling back injury, goes over HHH every week for like 2 months now

WHAT! Did you not see SummerSlam. He can still wrestle. You couldn't even tell he had an injury in that match. I do however agree he can't work a full schedule, but he can still wrestle.

[Guest AnnieEclectic]

I switched to this one because it fits better as a 64x64 pic. although I agree with your summation of the first one.

 

I really really find myself attracted to her. As a smark I feel much guilt for that.

 

-Annie

[Guest BoboBrazil]

HHH only did the job in the tag match tonight, because he is winning at the ppv. He always does the job in a tag match before winning at the ppv.

[Guest evenflowDDT]

What's so bad about a Booker win? He's a good worker, and he actually cares about the belt (as implied by his "five time, five time..." chant).  I'm not going to flame you, I'm just curious.

I loved Booker back in his Halem Heat days. But after he went single he has yet to impress me enough to accept him as a World Champ, even in WCW. He is a good worker, I agree. He'll job to anybody if the boss ask, but so would X-pac. I love the Harlem/Houston Hangover, but he never uses it. The Axe kick just plain sucks and the only good thing he he has ever said on the mic is the "Don't hate the player, hate the game!' line. I would rather see RVD win it since I know Shawn won't. He hasn't had the World Title since coming to the WWE. At least Booker has had it before.

I agree that the Axe Kick is a lame finisher, but RVD cuts the most god-awful boring, bland promos when he gets mic time. Its not even that I don't really like RVD all that much any more that I don't want him to be the title, its just that a title win literally does nothing for him. No matter where his spot on the card is, he'll still be over as hell, and when he had the Hardcore and IC belts he barely acknowledged them. A champion has to care about his belt, and I never buy RVD caring about anything. Remember, belt or not, sober (right...) or not, screwed or what, everything's cool when you're R ::points:: V ::points:: D ::points::

[Guest Smell the ratings!!!]

I really really find myself attracted to her. As a smark I feel much guilt for that.

And now you feel a little bit of what I suffer through every day.

 

Paranoid, I saw Summerslam, I admit I left the bar before the HBK match but I got it off Hotline later. Anyway, I thought it was ok. Selling a bunch of shitty "power" moves, and then jumping off stuff might be a big deal for Jeff Hardy, but I wasn't particularly thrilled watching Michaels do it. Besides, his character and retarded promos bug the hell out of me, and since he can't counter act them with good matches anymore, I'm allowed to say he sucks instead of getting nostalg-y like most people.

 

If it makes you feel any better, I think if I said to Vince, "But he can't wrestle anymore", Vince would say "So?". He could win on Sunday.

[Guest Edwin MacPhisto]

Booker winning would surprise me, because although he seems to have leapfrogged Kane into Face Challenging For The Title Status, he hasn't had a single high profile win since...since...christ, he and Goldust didn't even win the tag belts.

 

I don't know how they're going to handle the Michaels' issue. They're kind of in a corner where they have to do a blow-off unless Michaels' bows out in Mick Foley fashion with a kinda random loss, yet they need to make something look viable for the next PPV as well.

 

Easiest booking would be to have Hunter eliminate Michaels, and then have Michaels cost him the title to one of the other guys, setting up the final HHH/Michaels match and letting someone else start a title program, but I don't know if they're smart enough to take the obvious route, or if that's even worthwhile at this point. Here's hoping.

[Guest Trivia247]

obvious no random 4 man elimination matches this year...pisses me off. Love those matches, even back in the day it was 5 man teams or was 5 tag teams per side.

[Guest Smell the ratings!!!]

No shit. Why do they still even call it "Survivor Series" anyway? I'm sure Vince can't wait to change it to "Hostility" or something retarded.

 

EDIT: If you spell "retard" wrong, are you a retard?

[Guest Mole]

What's so bad about a Booker win? He's a good worker, and he actually cares about the belt (as implied by his "five time, five time..." chant).  I'm not going to flame you, I'm just curious.

I loved Booker back in his Halem Heat days. But after he went single he has yet to impress me enough to accept him as a World Champ, even in WCW. He is a good worker, I agree. He'll job to anybody if the boss ask, but so would X-pac. I love the Harlem/Houston Hangover, but he never uses it. The Axe kick just plain sucks and the only good thing he he has ever said on the mic is the "Don't hate the player, hate the game!' line. I would rather see RVD win it since I know Shawn won't. He hasn't had the World Title since coming to the WWE. At least Booker has had it before.

What is wrong with jobbing to whoever the boss tells you? If HHH did that, Raw wouldn't be in big trouble, or even more trouble after SS. The Rock jobs to whoever is asked because he is a proffesional, unlike HHH. Just think if the Rock refused to job to Brock, would Brock be getting those big pops he is getting now? Hmmm...

 

Anyway, it is either going to be Booker, HHH or HBK, leaning towards Booker more.

 

RVD's character is getting REALLY boring to me. He does the same stuff, over, over, over, and over again. Don't get me wrong, I still like him, he is just getting too stale. He needs to work on his moveset, and concentrate more on psychology. So, RVD shouldn't get the title until he does something.

 

Booker is defiantly the right man to win the title. He is over with the crowd, has been waiting for this for a LONG time now. He is getting old, and it is his time to finally win this title. Yes, his finisher is pretty blah, but he can always fix that. Plus, his character has grown SOO much over the years. I remember when he was in WCW, how boring his character was. He was always missing that one thing, but now he has that one thing. Kind of like Edge now, he is just missing that one thing, but that is another topic.

 

However, I bet HHH is going to retain the title, just because it's HHH, and he is banging that girl, you know who.

[Guest evenflowDDT]

EDIT: If you spell "retard" wrong, are you a retard?

Depends... are you really crazy if you think you're crazy? I'd say not because it means you recognize such behavior as abnormal.

[Guest Mulatto Heat]

Don't get me wrong, I still like him, he is just getting too stale.

 

I agree 100%. I like RVD, but as I said in another thread, I can recognize his faults. One of his biggest ones is that he just doesn't give a crap about anything, and while that may be part of his appeal it's also preventing him from being a face of Rocky and Austin caliber. Rock may have been repetitive to some (OK, many) but at least he had goals, stated what they were, and made it absolutely clear that they were important. I can't think of a time RVD has done the same. As a result, I am now wary of thinking that RVD is definitely a better choice of a champion than HHH.

[Guest TheArchiteck]

I got a feeling that everyone is going to be laid out except HBK and HHH. HBK hits the sweet chin music and knocks HHH out. HBK pins HHH but pops up at 2 and does his fuck it look and just leave.

[Guest Paranoid]

What is wrong with jobbing to whoever the boss tells you? If HHH did that, Raw wouldn't be in big trouble, or even more trouble after SS. The Rock jobs to whoever is asked because he is a proffesional, unlike HHH. Just think if the Rock refused to job to Brock, would Brock be getting those big pops he is getting now? Hmmm...

I never said there was anything wrong with jobbing when asked to do it. I was using it as an analogy. JESUS read the entire post before you reply!

 

EDIT: I should say a comparison to X-pac and Booker being good workers.

[Guest papacita]

HBK is my sentimental favorite, but I think the best person to put the title on (if it changes at all) would be Booker. If handled right, I think Booker has the potential to be a crossover star.

 

As for RVD...I liked him better as a heel in ECW. His character at least had purpose then...now he's just kinda there. I dunno how successful an RVD heel turn would be, but I'd love to see him turn and go into a World Title feud with Booker.

[Guest cynicalprofit]

HBK comes out for one match and people think he's once again a worthy contender....BULLSHIT. They should have had HBK put over RVD as the next showstopper. Right there, RVD becomes a player and is a viable contender for any title.

 

HBK deserves the title as much as I do. He's retired and has wrestled once in the last 5 years, he doesn't deserve shit. Its this type of thinking that really fucks things up. Yeah lets give it to the guy who will wrestle once a month. PURE GENIUS. But he doesnt look injuried, tell that to his spine. Its gonna take one bad bump and shawn will get a handicapped parking sticker. Im an HBK fan as much as the next guy, but he doesnt need or deserve the title. What would it prove, hes still got it, great he's proven hes better then every other new talent, why to make them look good. talk about burying everyone in a single stroke, that would do it. A retired guy beat 5 of todays best stars, wow jethro, those guys must really suck.

 

Stick it on RVD, he's over, yeah his mic skills suck, give him heyman to run his mouth for him, and have RVD say "yeah" alot. He stays over and doesnt need to talk. Works for me.

 

Booker T, needs the title or he's got no shot of ever being anything again. He'll be gone in 5 years or so, he's been made into a nonplayer since day 2. He was never a threat and they wonder why the invasion failed. Give him the title, have him pin HHH clean on Raw and start a new phase. If you make him look credible, he can get over, constanly making him look like a joke achieves nothing.

 

Jericho, sorry kid, career over. HHH burried him to the point where his credit is gone. They had him get put over Austin and Rock, when all along you knew he was jobbing to HHH. And he was feuding over a fucking dog. He will sadly never look credibly again outside of something amazing happen.

 

Kane, no, necro angle should void you from all titles reigns, forever. I dont care if it was a ME push, tell them NO FUCKING CORPSES, in any sense! Other then that reason, HHH has made him look like a jobber, he's not credible. And if he did win, Kane vs Undertaker again, and they will bring up the brothers thing, which will once again make everything make zero sense all over again.

 

HHH pins/elimates everyone clean, claims himself king of the world, gets shot by mysterious sniper who is never caught...oh sorry dreaming.

 

HHH will come out clean and elimate ANY competition for himself, just so he can do 20 minute RAW interviews saying how great he is. IF someone doesnt go over, they are screwed in terms of RAW title contenders. I'm suprised HHH isn't pinning women clean for the title yet.

 

Toss order

1. Booker T (!0 minutes, 15 at the most and he's gone)

2. Jericho

3. RVD

4. Kane (only cause he's feuding with HHH right now)

5. HBK

 

HHH beats'em all proving he's the game. Watch the fans dance.

[Guest humongous2002]

Booker wont win the title b/c according to WWE logic since he got to pin HGH last night he will return the favor on the ppv.Another thing Booker is barely over, the only thing thats over about him is his spinaroonie and suckaaaa catchphrase period.

RVD deserves to win but it seems that Vince doesn't have any plans for him even though he is the most over face in RAW and WWE.

[Guest Anglesault]

When is the PPV?

[Guest FeArHaVoC]

Honestly, I don't think ANYONE deserves to be a World Champion on Raw.

 

Turn Jericho Face again, give him his heat back. (Fuck You Hunter) Let him cut the Fan Friendly, Comedy Promos, and let him have some of his old Move set back so he can pop the crowds. I keep seeing people say Jericho has lost a step, and doesn't work like he use to. It's because he's trying to be a Heel and doesn't wanna work fast and use high spots to Pop the Crowd. Same with his promo's you can't have him cut Funny Heel Promos all the time like in WcW, you'll turn him face. It's actually Smart thinking on Jericho's part to let himself become a little "Bland."

 

Bottom line, he really needs a face turn, and kept miles away from Triple H.

 

Survivor Series is the 17th, btw.