Guest bcu1979 Posted May 31, 2002 Report Posted May 31, 2002 Here's some comments from the Steve Austin Byte This report on 1wrestling.com. <<Kevin brought up the Internet rumors that say that Stone Cold is unhappy with the company (Kevin tried to put it over as if the rumors were b.s.) and Austin said the bottom line is that everything sucks. He's not happy with the direction he or the company is going. The writing has been piss poor and he thinks it can be a hell of a lot better but it's been pretty shitty. He hasn't been happy since before Wrestlemania. Kevin asked Austin if he thinks there's movements or progress that'll be made to improve things? Austin said who knows. He's still happy to be a part of the WWE, but creative could be a hell of a lot better than it is. Kevin asked Austin about the split and Austin said that they could have done without the actual split. Just have guys focus on one show but allow them to cross over. Austin hopes that the split works, because the pressure is down since he only has to work one show. We'll see what happens.>> He makes this board sound positive about the current state of the WWE! I know Austin can get away with a hell of a lot more than most but I'm surprised at how direct he was. It sounds like he is especially unhappy with the Stephanie McMahon led writing team.
Guest cobainwasmurdered Posted May 31, 2002 Report Posted May 31, 2002 good. it's about time they get a wake up call.
Guest y2jailbait Posted May 31, 2002 Report Posted May 31, 2002 Man, i agree, AUSTIN AUSTIN! Its good to know someone in the WWE has enough say and clout to say what needs to be said and that is the creative team needs retooling
Guest Posted May 31, 2002 Report Posted May 31, 2002 This is why they don't let Austin do outside interviews anymore. They're scared someone might ask him about "Triple H Politics." Austin shoots from the hip.
Guest Human Fly Posted May 31, 2002 Report Posted May 31, 2002 Yes! Finally the truth is starting to leak out. They should put Austin on the book to combat HHH. He might book himself as Champ, but at this point it'd be a gamble I'd be willing to take. (I don't oppose Austin as Champ per se, but don't like it when anyone puts themselves over everyone else. It cheapens it when you give it to yourself IMO. Having your girlfriend give you the title is just as bad too.) Austin can say what he wants, if they fired him do you really think he would care? He pretty much shattered kayfabe and it will be interesting to see if anything comes of this.
Guest Posted May 31, 2002 Report Posted May 31, 2002 A little off the topic- Has anyone picked up the Austin "What?" Video yet? If So, is it worth getting?
Guest goodhelmet Posted May 31, 2002 Report Posted May 31, 2002 to the topic at hand, the last time someone was so direct publicly about the state of the WWF (that I can remember) was Foley shortly before Survivor Series. He was gone the day after the ppv. Austin could suffer the same consequences.
Guest Posted May 31, 2002 Report Posted May 31, 2002 Yeah, there's been a fair amount of suckage from the creative team lately. Still, I wonder why we never hear similar criticism from other top tier guys? I say that Austin cares far less about the product than his own role as part of that product. He didn't bitch during the suckfest of an Invasion angle probably because he was getting 30-40 minutes of screentime per show. As a viewer, I found that his off-key singing, 3-chord guitar-playing & rarely defending his title "sucked" more than what's happening now.
Guest cobainwasmurdered Posted May 31, 2002 Report Posted May 31, 2002 A little off the topic- Has anyone picked up the Austin "What?" Video yet? If So, is it worth getting? i've seen it. it's worth getting
Guest razazteca Posted May 31, 2002 Report Posted May 31, 2002 who exactly are the bookers and writers? HHH and "wife", Paul E and who else?
Guest caboose Posted June 1, 2002 Report Posted June 1, 2002 It's true that the product sucked last year and Austin didn't bitch about it cos he was the whole damn show. But the real issue is that there are no new stars. The last two stars to really became legendary because of their popularity were Rocky and Austin. The fans made these guys stars. The fans liked them so they cheered for them. The fans just don't care because their is no one to care for. RVD came close, but giving him the IC belt is a step down. Booker is moving fast but the WWE won't give him the ball because he is WCW.
Guest godthedog Posted June 1, 2002 Report Posted June 1, 2002 Yeah, there's been a fair amount of suckage from the creative team lately. Still, I wonder why we never hear similar criticism from other top tier guys? I say that Austin cares far less about the product than his own role as part of that product. He didn't bitch during the suckfest of an Invasion angle probably because he was getting 30-40 minutes of screentime per show. As a viewer, I found that his off-key singing, 3-chord guitar-playing & rarely defending his title "sucked" more than what's happening now. you like the television now better than last summer? the television last summer was a hell of a lot better than the television we're getting now. the hero/jackass dialogue, the badges, the guitar...this stuff was the most entertaining thing on wwf television from that period. they gave him a lot of air time because they knew he could be entertaining. if jericho or angle was on raw getting 30-40 minutes of air time, i seriously doubt that austin would be complaining. who's the show focusing on now? triple h, undertaker, hogan, vince & flair. none of these guys are entertaining right now. think about who else we have on tv to compare. i remember jericho, benoit (before king of the ring), rhyno, angle, edge, christian, booker t, kanyon, storm, and rvd. now we've got edge, angle, rvd, booker t, a MUCH smaller dose of jericho, bradshaw, farooq, mark henry, test, reverend d-von, dancing bubba ray, chuck, billy & maven. the wrestling last summer was better, and they were still churning out MOTYC's. has there even been an adequate MOTYC so far this year? austin isn't saying the product sucks because he's not getting enough air time. he's saying the product sucks because the product sucks.
Guest Anglesault Posted June 1, 2002 Report Posted June 1, 2002 Austin bitching out the creactive team... Rock making veiled remarks directed at HHH on Jay Leno... The Evil Empire might crumble.
Guest Posted June 1, 2002 Report Posted June 1, 2002 Rock making veiled remarks directed at HHH on Jay Leno... ??????????? Explain that, please.
Guest Anglesault Posted June 1, 2002 Report Posted June 1, 2002 I don't remember the whole story, but rocky said something on a talk show about someone, and Trips was able to gather that it was about him. HHH threw an Intese-a-tantrum. I THINK he called him jealous.
Guest Black Tiger Posted June 1, 2002 Report Posted June 1, 2002 I have to question if Austin would be giving these comments if he WASN'T the big guy in the WWE. Looking at his history in WWE, Austin spent the end of 2001 and most of this year being faded out. Benoit and Jericho got to go over him by submission. Angle went over by submission Austin began to cut COMEDY promos, singing with The Rock, the story about a man named Jed He put over Chris Jericho TWICE Now after all that his credibility is fading away, people are getting sick of him they want to see Angle and Edge tear it up and Eddy CHEAT TO WIN over Rob Van Dam. 1999 was a shitty year for the WWF artisticly and Austin was the top man and he had NO problems then
Guest Posted June 1, 2002 Report Posted June 1, 2002 austin isn't saying the product sucks because he's not getting enough air time. he's saying the product sucks because the product sucks. And thats the bottom line...Because he said so. (sorry)
Guest Posted June 1, 2002 Report Posted June 1, 2002 I respectfully disagree that what amounted to "The Steve Austin Variety Hour" was more entertaining than what's been happening lately. People can differ on this matter, though. "Austin isn't saying the product sucks because he's not getting enough air time. He's saying the product sucks because the product sucks." But, IMO, he believes the product sucks mostly because of his relative low profile these days, as opposed to, say, last summer. He's dropped from being the leading man in the Fed to a supporting character. Of course, he's not going to say out loud to the fans that he should be the whole deal, but that's what his recent behaviour (esp. the strike) suggests.
Guest the pinjockey Posted June 1, 2002 Report Posted June 1, 2002 I was beginning to think that Austin was just becoming a pain in the ass prima donna but when he went and asked for a program with Eddie Guerrero he got all of his respect back in my eyes. The fact that he wanted to get in the ring with Guerrero to have a fued that made his matches better as opposed to making him the top guy (Guerrero is nowhere Austin's league in heat so this isn't based on money making IMO) shows that he still does care about this business so I am going to trust his opinion and not just assume it is because he is not the focus. I wish he would do a non-WWF structured interview just to see what his truly honest thoughts about the programs are (I know saying the product sucks is strong but I would like to hear his ideas as to why which I don't think we will get in this environment). On another note I think it was on the ESPN Unscripted show that the Rock bashed HHH. He made an off hand comment that there was a person or people at the top of the company who were jealous and did business the wrong way.
Guest TheHulkster Posted June 1, 2002 Report Posted June 1, 2002 Austin takes a stand against booking he doesn't agree with and he's a saint and standing up for whats right. Kevin Nash takes a stand against booking he doesn't agree with and he's an asshole and he's playing politics. What is it people?
Guest pinnacleofallthingsmanly Posted June 1, 2002 Report Posted June 1, 2002 Asking for a program with Guerrero could have selfish motives. Remember Hogan's "program" with Kidman? I think the jury's still out on Austin. He took a week off before because he didn't like the direction of his character. I like the fact that he is amking his feelings known, but I hope his comments benefit everyone and not just him.
Guest Anglesault Posted June 1, 2002 Report Posted June 1, 2002 You answered the question yourself. Austin is doign what's right for the company. Kevin Nash does what's right for Kevin Nash.
Guest the pinjockey Posted June 1, 2002 Report Posted June 1, 2002 I want to see what Austin was standing up for before calling him a saint. If it was actual concern for business then he is good if not he was being a bit of a prima donna, but you know what Austin vs. McMahon saved this company and last year he was constantly churning out **** MEs so you know what he does get some leeway because he has proven to be a workhorse for the WWF like Scott Keith said in his rant (And don't get into the you are a Keith worshiper arguement this is just a quote) if a few years from now he is still doing this call me and I will agree with you. Kevin Nash has pulled shit before where he puts himself ahead of business and he has never shown to give anything back to the business. And I don't think that he was an asshole in this recent situation, if a wrestler has something to say they go through the proper people to come up with a reasonable alternative that doesn't drastically change what is happening then I do not have a problem with that. But I do not think it is fair to compare Austin to Nash.
Guest the pinjockey Posted June 1, 2002 Report Posted June 1, 2002 Asking for a program with Guerrero could have selfish motives. Remember Hogan's "program" with Kidman? Granted, but I have enough faith in Austin that Guerrero will come out of this fued looking better that I am going into the fued with that feeling.
Guest Posted June 1, 2002 Report Posted June 1, 2002 Well I think both Austin and Nash should be praised for speaking out because hopefully they will both produce postive results. Nash's latest protest helped turn around an NWO angle that was in a severe tailspin, and no matter how much of a fashionable smark u are, the nWo has been gold the last two weeks especially this week. And lets hope Austin's comments help increase the speed on the changes the WWE speaks of, because if they can improve next week over what was a good week of tv this week, then I will be very pleased with the product.
Guest Brian Posted June 1, 2002 Report Posted June 1, 2002 Right now, it seems like Austin is doing it to regain the form that he had last summer, while Nash seems to be doing it to re-establish his drawing potential since Hall has left and Hogan is planning on leaving. But it takes time to evaluate these kinds of things.
Guest Posted June 1, 2002 Report Posted June 1, 2002 Austin takes a stand against booking he doesn't agree with and he's a saint and standing up for whats right. Kevin Nash takes a stand against booking he doesn't agree with and he's an asshole and he's playing politics. What is it people? Excellent observation! I think Austin has kind of shot himself in the foot. He was NOT happy with his heel turn(s) from last year and was supposedly willing to do the "leader of the Alliance" storyline as long as he would be able to revert to his old bad ass gimmick. In a way Austin is responsible for his stale character because HE demanded that he go back to it rather than stick with his fresh heel persona the writers came up for him. Granted the storylines of late have been brutal, and the whole n.W.o vs. Austin angle was a debacle, but Austin needs to take some responsibility for his sad state. The writers gave him a new persona, new feuds, a new catchphrase and a ton of air time during the Invasion and he wasn't happy with it. I wonder if he regerets his decision? Anyone else miss Invasion era Austin?
Guest bravesfan Posted June 1, 2002 Report Posted June 1, 2002 Anyone else miss Invasion era Austin? Got one here. Austin's tweener persona before his heel turn, is what Austin should be re-defined as, ala '98 "DTA Austin". The Raw where he saves the WWF from an Alliance beatdown... the fact that he DIDN'T CARE FOR ANYONE EXCEPT HIS OWN WELL-BEING, is the key angle in this. Flash-forward to the present: he now looks like a fool, being turned on by Flair, Big Show and Benoit in a matter of weeks. Why make him out to be the gullible Mick Foley character? It's frustrating to watch this happen week in and week out... I also miss the Austin/Angle "Suck-up to Vince" segments, especially the cowboy hat and guitar-playing saga. Austin's character fits better with those of the Smackdown brand (Angle, HHH, Jericho, Rock, VINCE), but let's see where possible feuds with Eddy and Booker may take them.
Guest Posted June 1, 2002 Report Posted June 1, 2002 who exactly are the bookers and writers? HHH and "wife", Paul E and who else? Steph - Oversees both shows Shane JR - VP of Talent Relations, or something like that. Good guess that he's a relatively big part of the crew. Vince - Is the final say in everything Triple H - That much is obvious Paul Heyman - Smackdown Brian Gerwitz - Raw Michael Hayes - Smackdown John Laurinitis (sp?) aka Johnny Ace - Brought over when WWF bought WCW, he's a member of the crew as well. Fit Finlay - Has been said to be responsible for the Women's division resurgence; when Jazz came in. Dean Malenko - I don't know if he's responsible for the current Cruiser division, or if he even does anything, but he was given the ball back when he and Scott 2 Hotty were feuding over the belt.
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