HHH SHOULD Get the Undisputed Belt

[Guest Shadow]

Fuck the political accusations: right now, Hunter is the best man to have the belt during this period of transition. Why? Well, look at the rest of the possiable champs:

 

RVD: Needs to get some wins over established main eventers before he's a real threat, just hot-shotting the belt on him will hurt his career more than it will help it.

 

Austin: Has been MUCH worse than Hunter lately, and at least Triple H is trying, Austin has has no effort or drive since his post-WM hissy-fit.

 

Jericho: His credibility is dead, whether that is HHH's faut or not doesn't matter, the fact is that if he's going to be a Champion, he needs to be built back up first.

 

Hogan: We all know now that as Champion, he drives away the teenage auidance (which HHH tends to cater too, as he's "cool" in the eyes of the average teenage mark)

 

Angle: He needs to build himself back up after lowrering himself to feud with Edge before winning any titles.

 

Edge: He's injured, duh.

 

Taker (keeping the belt I mean): He shouldn't remain with the belt for the same reason as Hogan, only to a lesser degree- he's old and drives away teenage fans.

 

Anyone else (Booker, whatever) would need to be built up first before going for the Undisputed Title. If it was up to me, I would have Hunter win the title at King of the Ring, and in the meantime put RVD over Benoit clean at KOTR, then over Austin clean in a face vs. face #1 contender match. That would build him up, and then he can take the title from Hunter at Summerslam. That's my view on it, anyway.

[Guest Brian]

No, he doesn't. I'm not a HHHater but I'll say that.

 

"RVD: Needs to get some wins over established main eventers before he's a real threat, just hot-shotting the belt on him will hurt his career more than it will help it."

 

Already has the wins. Of course they're not just going to hotshot the belt to him, they'll build it up against Undertaker until Vengeance.

 

"Austin: Has been MUCH worse than Hunter lately, and at least Triple H is trying, Austin has has no effort or drive since his post-WM hissy-fit."

 

Agreed, but Austin may be the one face that can carry the company even if he's not fully motivated.

 

Frankly, Triple H has had very little build to his last reign and if they give him the title now, it doesn't look any better. That's why they failed with him as champ; they screwed up some pretty big guaranteed opportunities and failed with their challenger. But if Undertaker wins, they'll have a stronger champion to pass the title to for the next month or two, whenever he loses.

[Guest AlwaysPissedOff]

Damn, Brian stole the words right out of my mouth...

[Guest oldschoolwrestling]

The only way I see HHH as a legitimate champion is as a heel.  He gets some face pops but is much better as a heel.  

 

As far as Angle "lowering himself to feud with Edge", I don't think it was by his own choosing.  I think they need to build him back up to at least challenge for the title.

[Guest Brian]

Flavor of the month is busy,

Melting in your mouth.

Getting easier to swallow,

Harder to spit out.

[Guest]

I totally agree with Brian's first post. You kind of lost me on the second one, dude. LoL, You been reading Jeff Hardy's poetry book again?

[Guest papacita]

Keep the belt on Taker.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

hell yes.  keep the belt on Taker.

[Guest Redhawk]

I have no idea when (or if) The Rock is coming back, but the best thing would be to keep it on Undertaker until he does. Now, that's assuming that The Rock is coming back before SummerSlam, or at least No Mercy (October).

 

I don't see why Undertaker can't keep the belt until then. Have him beat HHH at KOTR, then have a Taker/Angle vs. Hogan/HHH tag match in July, and then have Undertaker vs. The Rock at SummerSlam.

 

If Rock doesn't come back until October, Undertaker could fight the winner of KOTR (likely RVD or Booker T) at SummerSlam, the non-KOTR winner (out of RVD or Booker T) in September, and then The Rock in October.

[Guest Slapnuts00]

Taker has already been a better champ than HHH and Hogan were. The WWE has really backed themselves into a wall with the title situation. Another HHH failed face run as champ is not gonna do it. How about this risky idea? Following WWE Brand Extension precedent, the title shots alternate between RAW and Smackdown. Meaning next it will be RAW's turn. How about start building Taker as more of a tweener then a heel (which he is anyway, and still gets pops). Have Flair announce the Eddy/Austin match be for the #1 contendership. After CHEATING TO WIN~! Eddy can upset Austin. On the episode of RAW after KOTR, have Flair announce Eddy will get the shot that night, which puts Flair in a strange situation since he has made a match between 2 heels he should be supporting. Have Flair and Benoit cost Taker the match, giving the huge win and upset to Eddy, while Flair gives a bitter interview on a beaten Taker about how he hasn't forgiven Taker for WM, which makes Undertaker a face (hopefully at the end of his career). Who does Eddy feud with for Vengeance? Simple, Austin sure as hell has unfinished business with him. Austin vs. Eddy for the title at Vengeance, Austin wins. In the end, you give Eddy the title as a fresh face who is super hot as a heel right now, and Austin is happy at the end since he can have 2 great matches with Eddy and gets the title in the end. By then Benoit should be ready to go start Austin/Benoit World Title Tour '02. Plus Taker can feud with the new Flair stable, to finish his career as a face.

 

I know, it's totally radical idea and will never happen, but it's WAYYY better than another Triple H face reign, and cashes in on the most interesting feud they currently have. Plus Eddy as champ is a sweet idea.

[Guest Sakura]

Eddie is not "super hot" as a heel now. He is not over and his promos have been really bad lately. I do like him, but come on, he enters to silence.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

His heat is picking up now...but he isn't over enough for that spot IMO.

[Guest Slapnuts00]

His heat is picking up now...but he isn't over enough for that spot IMO.

ok, I guess I feel differently. But (and please don't take this being rude, because I'm not), but do you have a better idea? What's missing from the WWF is that shock factor (and I don't mean Tommy Dreamer throwing up or Austin peeing on AA) I mean new stars getting big wins, etc. I like RAW better than Smackdown at the moment because of RVD, Eddy, Flair and Booker. It just seems so humdrum with HHH, Taker and the same boring crap main eventing. Anyway, what other ideas could they use?

[Guest Sakura]

Someone who is over. Like Van Dam or Booker(in time).

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

I'll say it again.

 

RVD winning the belt from Taker at the July ppv is the best decision.

 

RVD and Taker have history.  The match would be a big payoff.  And the first time that a title change actually meant something since...when?  No Mercy when Jericho won the big one?

 

RVD is already over enough to be a main eventer...despite not being one.  So I have to wonder if he would get more over with one of those dang sustained push thingies.

 

He wants to wrestle every show anyway...so he'd get over in a beleivable role by defending the thing on both shows, rather than long stupid promos.  Remember when Bret Hart would defend against Buddy Landel on Superstars and the the 1-2-3 kid on Raw?  Doing that with RVD would be a great idea if for no other reason than people actually like to see RVD in the ring.  

 

The difference between him and the HHHs and Takers is that people come to see those guys, just to see them.  People come to see RVD in the ring.  Big difference.  An RVD title reign where he has matches with midcard guys on tv could be the thing to spark an interest in the IN RING PRODUCT again.  

 

His matches have amongst the best heat in the company...people actually CARE about the matches.  Isn't that the point?

[Guest Anglesault]

If HHH should get the title back now, than Angle should have gotten the title back at Vengeance. Both had horrible face title runs that were mercy killed. Both became a little more over for said PPV. But niether should win the title at that PPV.

[Guest Slapnuts00]

I'll say it again.

 

RVD winning the belt from Taker at the July ppv is the best decision.

 

RVD and Taker have history.  The match would be a big payoff.  And the first time that a title change actually meant something since...when?  No Mercy when Jericho won the big one?

 

RVD is already over enough to be a main eventer...despite not being one.  So I have to wonder if he would get more over with one of those dang sustained push thingies.

 

He wants to wrestle every show anyway...so he'd get over in a beleivable role by defending the thing on both shows, rather than long stupid promos.  Remember when Bret Hart would defend against Buddy Landel on Superstars and the the 1-2-3 kid on Raw?  Doing that with RVD would be a great idea if for no other reason than people actually like to see RVD in the ring.  

 

The difference between him and the HHHs and Takers is that people come to see those guys, just to see them.  People come to see RVD in the ring.  Big difference.  An RVD title reign where he has matches with midcard guys on tv could be the thing to spark an interest in the IN RING PRODUCT again.  

 

His matches have amongst the best heat in the company...people actually CARE about the matches.  Isn't that the point?

I agree that RVD should be the champ but not now. I think he should hold on to the IC belt, and continue participation in upper card feuds. The key is the slow burn and increasing the anticipation about RVD being the champ until it can't be ignored anymore. Have him win the Royal Rumble and challenge preferable a heel Triple H at Wrestlemania. If they do this thing right, then RVD should be massive over by WM and ready to take the title, for added effect, have him still be the IC champ when challenging. It's how it was with Austin in 97-98, keep building him up, more quick title changes are indeed meaningless and won't do much for RVD, if they keep him hot and have him win the Rumble, a win at WM for his first world title would mean so much more. That's why in the mean time, Austin should have the belt (with Eddy being my transitional guy), until a heel Triple H takes it in the fall, ready to pass it on to RVD at Mania making him a superstar. That's my typical plan anyway.

[Guest Sakura]

There is no reason to use Eddie as a transitional champion. He has NO heat. You don't put the title on someone who hasn't a bit of heat.

 

Why not use Kurt or UT himself as the transitional champion? Eddie as Champ would be an embarassment.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

Hey...I like Eddy.

 

If he won the belt I'd mark out.

 

But I beleive that if they want to turn the company around they have to build through their problems with a fresh champion in place while they do it.  Transitional champions while building only feul the fire IMO.

[Guest]

They've gotta keep the belt on Taker for at least another month or two. The belt has gotta get out of this "hot potato" mode. I don't mind HHH being champ as long as the feud he's in over shadows his god awful ring ability. Taker has really impressed me as a heel, he's working harder and been a more interesting character as a whole.

 

Unfortunatley, the main event scene is getting most of the blame for the poor ratings. The blame has been placed on Jericho and Hogan already. My guess is that the Dead Man is next in line to take the blame even if it is HHH's fault.

[Guest Sakura]

And also, WM is almost a year away. It would be cool if RVD won the Rumble and stuff, but the ratings are going down now. They need a new direction now. The story is there. It can book itself.

 

They can have RVD lose the title in the fall and then do the Rumble/WM win for him to regain it.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

Now that I think about it...I like Sakuras idea.

 

If RVD dropped the belt to a good heel (like HHH as a heel...he HAS to be better by then...right?) anyway...if he dropped the belt in the fall...the heel could dominate up until Mania when RVD could finally regain it...

 

...that payoff might be a great great bump.

[Guest Sakura]

When is Edge back? If it's late enough they might do the Rumble/WM thing for him. Which is....eh....

[Guest Slapnuts00]

And also, WM is almost a year away. It would be cool if RVD won the Rumble and stuff, but the ratings are going down now. They need a new direction now. The story is there. It can book itself.

 

They can have RVD lose the title in the fall and then do the Rumble/WM win for him to regain it.

But it wouldn't be as special that way Man, how pathetic is it that the only major wrestling company in America with the biggest and most talented roster in history, can't find anyone decent to hold the world title. Just sad.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

I've been saying that for a long time Sakura.

 

Edge will beat HHH at Mania.

[Guest Slapnuts00]

I've been saying that for a long time Sakura.

 

Edge will beat HHH at Mania.

Edge more ready than RVD? C'mon, Edge has shown me very little. This injury has come at a horrible time. He was just getting good. But RVD is a surefire main eventer, the jury is still out on Edge to be main eventing him at WM.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

I'm not talking about what I would do.

 

I'm talking about what I see the WWE doing.

[Guest Slapnuts00]

I'm not talking about what I would do.

 

I'm talking about what I see the WWE doing.

Well in that case, HHH laying down for a younger newly pushed guy with long blond hair, in the biggest main event of the year. HAHAHAHHAHAAHHA

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

ah touche.

[Guest Hogan Made Wrestling]

Is HHH older than Edge? If he is it can't be by that much, unless Edge is one of those deceptively young guys (such as the Big Show).