For The Record: Austin Poll

[Guest]

Austin or Weewee? Who's side do you take and why?

 

 

I'm firmly on Stone Cold's side.

 

First, I don't think he was only unhappy about whatever he was doing with Brock.  I think he's protesting how the whole company is going to shit.  I mean, the ratings go to horribly low levels on Smackdown so the first response is to overhaul Raw?  That's getting to WCW stupidity right there.  Raw's ratings are going up, up I said... if it ain't broke don't fix it.  The wrestling was getting better and longer.  Newer guys like Booker, Eddy, and RVD are over or were getting over.  The show was plain getting more entertaining.  Smackdown, meanwhile, is being headlined by Hogan the Useless and a worthless Triple H.  And the show was sticking with the usual sports entertainment BS.  So when its ratings go down the response isn't to change that show.  The response is to stay stubborn and change the show that's working?  Because it can't be McMahon's six year-old idea that's no longer viable.  No no, the fans just don't "get it."  Refusal to change when change is needed could doom our beloved Federation.  

 

I refer you to SK's comments for why I'm on Austin's side:

 

Get out, Steve. Get out while you can and stay out. Put your millions of dollars into a nice long-term investment plan, buy a house somewhere comfortable, and get out now while you’re still able to walk on your own two feet and still in control of your own career. Be unprofessional, be selfish, bite the hand that feeds you, let down the fans. I don’t care. I’m one of your biggest fans and you won’t let me down at all, because I can what’s coming if you stay, and it’s gonna be “Vince McMahon makes Steve Austin into the biggest martyr since Bret Hart”, and I don’t want to see that. I’ve already had one hero destroyed by a failing company, I don’t need another one. I don’t want another Dynamite Kid, a guy hanging on so long past his physical prime that he’s in a wheelchair and forgotten. I have tapes, I have memories. Find what makes you happy and do it, because obviously this company is no longer that thing, and I’d rather live without Austin than live with an unmotivated Austin. It was a good run, a great run, the best run…but it’s over, and I don’t want to be watching a humilated Rattlesnake in the midcard, fighting hasbeens and neverweres and waiting for the writers to come up with something good again. Because they won’t. And I can’t help but feel if you come back, we’ll all just be disappointed all over again. Or worse, we’ll be talking about where we were the day that Steve Austin got screwed.

 

Amen.

[Guest converge241]

against... if he has the knowledge to to put down everything , he should be proactive and get some ideas/plans/opponents... Austin has been involved in his character before, why does he stop now?

[Guest papacita]

If WWE had planned this 100% ownership angle as a way to shake things up, then I don't blame Austin for leaving, because it's absolutely stupid. I'm not taking sides until further info is given, but right now, I'm leaning towards Austin.

[Guest Luke Cage]

If this is legit, I'm on Austin's side. I really do think the whole thing is staged. I'll know for sure if Austin starts popping up at indy cards or starts up a rival promotion.

[Guest fazzle]

WWF's side.  Austin's being a whiny bitch who's taking his ball and going home when he doesn't get his way.  If he doesn't like what's going on, he should complain, pitch ideas, pull power plays, get the roster behind him and create an uproar.  But don't fucking leave and expect that to help anything.  He needs the WWF a hell of a lot more than they need him.  If he's gonna get up and leave, then he should QUIT.  Quit and don't come back.

[Guest godthedog]

i don't think i'm really on the company's side or austin's side.  the writing is horrid and vince is booking by the seat of his pants, but austin acted like a total jerkoff when he walked out.  he seems to forget that in all this mess, he still has fans.  these fans pay money to see him, and when he pulls shit like this he lets his fans down.  i almost went to see that 'raw' in atlanta, & had i been there i would've been royally pissed because austin wasn't on the show at all.

 

and there's no way in hell this thing is staged.  the writing has been below average to abysmal for a year, and they somehow pull this brilliant angle out of their asses?  the writers don't have the time or the creativity to come up with an angle this elaborate or compelling.

[Guest myburninghammer]

Why in the world, given the WWE's precarious current position, would they stage a walkout by their biggest star? Unless they wanted to suck the wind out of their live shows like they did last night or drop TV ratings--though at this point, I'll believe anything--there's nothing to gain from this type of "storyline." Besides, there's too much background and logic for it to be a WWE plot.

 

That said, I choose neither...given what Wade Keller is saying at the Torch site today, Austin's reticence towards the program being set up with him and Lesnar wasn't unfounded and had some prudent concerns that should have made the creative team reconsider their plans. But c'mon, if you're the biggest star--and you know it--and you're such close friends with Vince, why would you just take off when you could sit down with the boss and get it changed? He didn't even wait for Vince to get there to see if the problem could be fixed, and that's just juvenile. If you're the leader of the pack, act like it.

[Guest]

Austin= Bald X-Pac

 

nuff' said

[Guest Mark4steamboat]

I  dont think that Austin should have walked out because of a booking/creative decision. He is being a huge prima donna but if he wants to leave, so be it. I also agree with SK.

[Guest]

I'm on neither side.

 

On one hand, Austin has a point, the direction DOES suck and I'd be pissed off if I had to participate as well.

 

On the other hand, Austin signed a contract and he shouldn't be able to walk out on the company like that without getting his ass sued. He's also pulling the same bullshit he used to complain about with the upper-carders in WCW.

[Guest Luke Cage]

(Why in the world, given the WWE's precarious current position, would they stage a walkout by their biggest star?)

 

I don't know. I just tend to give things like this time to play out before I jump to a conclusion.

 

(Unless they wanted to suck the wind out of their live shows like they did last night or drop TV ratings)

I don't follow the live broadcasts so I can't comment on whether the show had the wind sucked out of it.

 

(--though at this point, I'll believe anything--there's nothing to gain from this type of "storyline." Besides, there's too much background and logic for it to be a WWE plot.)

 

There have been past storylines in wrestling that made no sense to the at home viewer.

 

I don't know anything about the WWF's financial state. I find it hard to believe that they're on the ropes business wise.

[Guest bob_barron]

WWE's side.

 

Funny how Austin bitched about the nWo coming in and being assholes backstage.

 

Hogan has been nothing but agreeable doing jobs for everyone.

Nash is Nash and while he has done some stuff kept his mouth shut about Hall.

Hall was an asshole and they fired him.

 

Since April the rattlesnake has walked off twice from a job he gets paid a lot of money to do.

 

Fire his ass.

[Guest caboose]

The fence I'm sitting on hurts.

[Guest Slapnuts00]

WWF's side. I mean, this is totally unprofessional behavior. You don't just walk out because you don't like how you're being booked. The company does not revolve around Austin, and he needs to learn to start suggesting some new ideas, rather than walking out to make a point. And I'm very disappointed in him, if the issue is not wanting to put over Brock. Didn't Austin leave WCW because as a midcarder he knew he couldn't advance past selfish main eventers who weren't willing to work with him? What? Exactly.

I'm kinda pissed though cuz the house show I got tickets to on June 28 was basically sold on the first ever teaming of Austin and Hogan vs. Eddy and Flair, and now that's down the drain it seems. O well. I'd hope they can work something out, but otherwise, I'd fire Austin's ass. As much as I like the guy they can't tolerate this shit, Xpac too. Maybe Jeff Jarrett can give him a job....that is if he agrees to work with him this time. What?

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

The walking out gives me shades of 1992-93 Hogan deciding to take the ball and run home whenever he feels like it.

 

Refusing to work with guys reminds me of Bret.

 

Oh, and this isn't the last time we've seen this bullshit. As long as Austin thinks Vince is a sucker to take this kind of bullshit, he'll keep doing it. Bouncing back just quick enough to have a match or maybe two, saying "What?" 900 times to sell merch, and then running home and waiting for the money to roll in. Never mind that a promotion is trying to get on it's feet again and doesn't know if they can count on him or not to help.

[Guest]

The fence I'm sitting on hurts.

Amen brother.

[Guest Big Poppa Popick]

given last nights events, i side with austin until im given proof about what happened

[Guest Black Tiger]

I think Austin ought to just leave. I think its sort of ironic that when HBK was on top he'd throw fits and get stuff he didn't like changed.

 

HBK passed the torch, willing or not, to Austin. Now its Austin who's getting pissed when he doesn't like what's going on.

 

Austin hasn't had any really good matches in a long time and is more or less all about comedy promos. The marks just got sick of him. They want to see RVD and Eddy tear it up, they want to see Angle and Edge get it on. Austin hasn't done anything super great since he fought Booker T in that Grocery Store.

[Guest HartFan86]

I'm on Austin's side because it is stupid as hell to have Austin job to Lesnar on a Raw without promotion. That could be a future main event match and they just want to put it on TV. How stupid. Austin should say "Fuck WWE" and leave.

[Guest]

I don't think a wrestler should leave if he is mad at managment because it hurts the fans the most. If they want to see Austin he should stay no matter what.

 

I do agree with Austin about last night though. If  I was him, I would have said to wait with Brock. Then has Brock win the KOTR and fight Austin at the next PPV, when he would kick the shit out of him. Brock would kick everyone's ass for a few months until RVD (Or Edge) finnally beats Brock and establishing himself as a main eventer.

[Guest Vern Gagne]

Austin is right to be upset. Lesnar hasn't done enough and isn't over enough to deserve a win over Austin. Get some build up before you have a match, that down the road could really mean something.

[Guest Quik]

Austin.

 

Someone's gotta stand up for the right idea, regardless of reasons.

 

And as for nWo being "Classy", Hogan jobbed to HGH and Deadweight. Nash bitched numerous times with X-Suck, and World's Drunkenest Bastard was fired. Now we got Shawn in... yahoo.

 

Austin has been right about everything. He's a conspiracy victim.

[Guest Kahran Ramsus]

I side with Vince.

 

Austin is right about the storylines, but he has a responsibility to the fans, a large number of whom are there just to see him, to show up.  He went too far.

[Guest RetroRob215]

WWE- Austin works for them, therefore he should do what is asked of him.  Plus many people jobbed to Austin on his rise to Super-Stardom, so he should return the favor.

[Guest]

I'm with the company on this one. Austin requested a feud with Eddie and he got it. They even set him up for a feud with Chris Benoit after that. Austin may be mad with HIS character's direction, but thats no reason for him to walk out on Eddie, Flair, Benoit and the other 40+ superstars who would love to be a fraction as over as he is.

[Guest MarvinisaLunatic]

My stance?  Hmm.  I think the whole Austin situation is a definite work on the part of the WWE.  Think about it, Austin was already mad about the current storylines he was in and its obvious that the WWE is going nowhere creativity wise.  Vince knows that a Austin Eddy match at the PPV wasn't gonna draw and there isn't anyone that he can draw with on RAW right now given the Split.  Austin knows that he's being burried further and further down the midcard levels as it is right now.  So Austin goes home on Vacation for about 4 months (some sort of storyline putting him out of action for that time).  During that time, Brock Lesnar goes crazy, winning the King of the Ring and beating HHH at Summerslam for the Title. Later on Austin shows around October/November(in time for the Survivor Series) after they've built up Brock Lesnar to Goldbergesque proportions. They use what happened at RAW on Monday night, to build some angle where Austin is pissed at Vince for letting Lesnar take his spot at the top of the WWE or something and how he spent 4 months at home in Texas, watching Lesnar go crazy and now he wants his spot back and they have a huge match at Survivor Series and Austin wins giving Lesnar his first loss.  

 

Everyone wanted to see Goldberg vs Austin, and Vince probably decided that this is the next best thing to shelling out bucks for Goldberg.

[Guest raptor]

From what I've heard, it was a shitty thing for Austin to do. As much as I hate to say it: I'm on the side of the WWE.

[Guest AlwaysPissedOff]

Like I said before, I need more info before I blame either party, but right now, I'm leaning towards Austin's side.

[Guest papacita]

After hearing everybody, I'm still in the middle. Austin fucked the fans by his actions...but I'm sorry, WWE's booking has been so bad lately I don't think I could side with them.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

I wont defend either of them since neither one is in support of the ONE THING that I am.

 

The elavation of new stars.

 

Now if Austin walked out and Vince said...ok...we need something good to spruce up the show and delivered a Main Event of say...RVD vs. Eddy for the #1 contender spot after KOTR...

 

then I would support him.

 

But he decided the best way to fix it was to put himself back on Raw.

 

Fuck them both.

 

Push RVD.