Chris Coey

[Guest The Winter Of My Discontent]

I feel as though I've misunderstood the guy. Yes, he's said some ill shit...but who hasn't? I've never read one of his actual reviews, and I probably never will. But his Q & A penetrated a hole in my heart. I feel bad. I agree with his assessment that most of the wrestling y'all think is Godly is actually quite wretchedly boring. Find it in your hearts...way way way down there. Find a place for Coey. Lets rectify this situation and bring him back.

[chaosrage 0]

 

But let's bring back Eagan, Paul, Smackzone, and Prime. They were cool.

[Guest Jay Z. Hollywood]

Note to Coey: the reason why people aren't the first to say something negative about you is because EVERYONE hates you.

 

Whatever, if he wants to use TSM's main site for a feeble display of ego-stroking like that, that's fine by me. If he needs the respect and appreciation of anonymous wrestling nerds to feel important, and has a compulsive desire to shout to the world he has a bigger...tape collection than everybody, well, that's his issue. That's all I'll say about it.

Edited April 30, 2004 by Jay Z. Hollywood

[Slayer 0]

Can someone please explain Coey's history here, for the benefit of us relative n00bs?

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

Can someone please explain Coey's history here, for the benefit of us relative n00bs?

He, along with wolverine, created a horrible stigma around the Puro folder that turned it into a target of venom for everyone else on the board. And all he had to do was be a total asshole to anyone who knew just a little less about Puro then he did.

 

I got on his bad side for (gasp!) suggesting that he was taking Joshi matches a little too seriously.

[The Ghost of bps21 0]

Being an asshole to everyone else wasn't even the main problem, as I recall.

 

The main problem was that he acted like the puro folder was his and he should dictate the rules to everyone else. God forbid you ask a question in the wrong place...then you'd be treated to some flaming.

 

He had his supporters in the folder that argued that he "knew his stuff"...but at the end of the day that is not liscence to be an asshole to everyone else.

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

See above. Hisako opened my eyes to a lot of things - not just Joshi, not just a better way to wrestle, but the inner contradictions we have to live with everyday; the choices we make, even when we know how harmful they can be; the irony that individual greatness comes when one is selfless. I remember JON Burr quoting Kris Kristofferson to describe her: "A pusher and a prophet / Partly truth and partly fiction / A walking contradiction" - if it's not true about her, I don't know who else it's supposed to apply to (besides Johnny Cash). I don't know about the rest of you, but I sit here and watch her work, and I think about "Victory Through Guts," and I think about what she endured, endured to the point of addiction, and I wonder how sick I must be to praise and applaud her accomplishments, knowing what price she had to pay, knowing it's no victory at all to be chewed up, spat out, and thrown away once one's body is absolutely wrecked from the effort - ask Wakizawa about that toll, or ask Momoe, or (may they rest in peace) ask Plum Mariko and Emiko Kado, if you could. And yet, I sit here knowing that I can't have it any other way, because she didn't want it any other way, and somehow that justifies it all, even when it doesn't justify it in the least.

 

I don't know how that makes her my favorite. I guess it just makes her more real, more human, more accessible than all the others, and I find it impossible to turn away from that.

 

 

This is what prompted me to ask if he was (maybe, just maybe) taking it all a tad seriously.

[Coffin Surfer 0]

Can someone please explain Coey's history here, for the benefit of us relative n00bs?

He, along with wolverine, created a horrible stigma around the Puro folder that turned it into a target of venom for everyone else on the board. And all he had to do was be a total asshole to anyone who knew just a little less about Puro then he did.

 

I got on his bad side for (gasp!) suggesting that he was taking Joshi matches a little too seriously.

"Everything that guy just said was bullshit, thank you."

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

Can someone please explain Coey's history here, for the benefit of us relative n00bs?

He, along with wolverine, created a horrible stigma around the Puro folder that turned it into a target of venom for everyone else on the board. And all he had to do was be a total asshole to anyone who knew just a little less about Puro then he did.

 

I got on his bad side for (gasp!) suggesting that he was taking Joshi matches a little too seriously.

"Everything that guy just said was bullshit, thank you."

Nuh uh.

[Guest Dids]

Reading that article, I say yes.

 

The self-important internet knowitall schtick has been done earlier and better. Frankly- I'm not sure it's in the site's and Dame's best interst to have that nonsense on the front page. If he wants to be a dick and flaunt his ego, have him do here where he can get the shit he deserves for it.

[Coffin Surfer 0]

See above. Hisako opened my eyes to a lot of things - not just Joshi, not just a better way to wrestle, but the inner contradictions we have to live with everyday; the choices we make, even when we know how harmful they can be; the irony that individual greatness comes when one is selfless. I remember JON Burr quoting Kris Kristofferson to describe her: "A pusher and a prophet / Partly truth and partly fiction / A walking contradiction" - if it's not true about her, I don't know who else it's supposed to apply to (besides Johnny Cash). I don't know about the rest of you, but I sit here and watch her work, and I think about "Victory Through Guts," and I think about what she endured, endured to the point of addiction, and I wonder how sick I must be to praise and applaud her accomplishments, knowing what price she had to pay, knowing it's no victory at all to be chewed up, spat out, and thrown away once one's body is absolutely wrecked from the effort - ask Wakizawa about that toll, or ask Momoe, or (may they rest in peace) ask Plum Mariko and Emiko Kado, if you could. And yet, I sit here knowing that I can't have it any other way, because she didn't want it any other way, and somehow that justifies it all, even when it doesn't justify it in the least.

 

I don't know how that makes her my favorite. I guess it just makes her more real, more human, more accessible than all the others, and I find it impossible to turn away from that.

 

 

This is what prompted me to ask if he was (maybe, just maybe) taking it all a tad seriously.

Come on be honest, that post just went over your head.

 

You were trolling, so get the fuck over it.

 

Everyone here has an unhealthy obsession with wrestling, so let's quit playing the "holier than thou" bullshit.

[The Ghost of bps21 0]

No...everyone here likes wrestling.

 

That statement is more like how the guy that shot Reagan liked Jodie Foster

[Guest Dids]

You're not in the "unhealthy obsession with wrestling" folder. Most of the posters here stay clear of the top-side of the forum for exactly that reason.

[Guest RickyChosyu]

Last I checked, Hokuto, while just a character in the ring, is a real person. Which is more than can be said for Batman.

 

Funny that you're all just doing what he wants. Also funny that not a one of you would actually say this anywhere where he could respond.

 

And you should try watching wrestling sometime, smart guy; pro wrestling ranks just barely above porn in terms of self-destruction and exploitation. He's right about the 'victory through guts' thing; women aren't physically built to take the punishment that goes on in a wrestling ring, yet quite a few of them do over there anyway. Hokuto was an extreme case of that, wrestling through a broken neck and broken vertebrae. There's a tape you can find where you can watch her take a painkiller shot just so she can go out and work a match in Korea. They do some really fucked up shit, just to go out and get some applause from a crowd that has next to no appreciation for the kind of work they put in and the shit they suffer through.

 

Coey wasn't "taking it too seriously" -- he was talking about the worked and the all-too-real aspects of wrestling. Most people just turn a blind eye to the fact that wrestling is a nasty, nasty lifestyle, because it's easier to rationalize likeing it if you don't have to think about how harmful it can be.

[The Ghost of bps21 0]

"Also funny that not a one of you would actually say this anywhere where he could respond."

 

And who's fault is that?

[Guest RickyChosyu]

No...everyone here likes wrestling.

No, everyone here does not like wrestling. Most of the dipshits who look at this folder don't even watch or read the stuff written by anyone here. There just message board dingleberries, little leeches who don't have anything going for them, so they suck the life out of whatever they can.

[Guest RickyChosyu]

"Also funny that not a one of you would actually say this anywhere where he could respond."

 

And who's fault is that?

He has a board. Be a man, grow a sack, and go there.

[The Ghost of bps21 0]

No...everyone here likes wrestling.

No, everyone here does not like wrestling. Most of the dipshits who look at this folder don't even watch or read the stuff written by anyone here. There just message board dingleberries, little leeches who don't have anything going for them, so they suck the life out of whatever they can.

But I only said that so I could use my ultra-hip John Hinkley pop-culture reference.

[The Ghost of bps21 0]

"Also funny that not a one of you would actually say this anywhere where he could respond."

 

And who's fault is that?

He has a board. Be a man, grow a sack, and go there.

But then I'd have to waste any of my time giving a shit.

 

I came into this thread to answer why he was banned...and won't be coming back.

[Guest RickyChosyu]

Looks to me like you did it to moralize to everyone and make shitty references no one's going to get (they're lucky to know who Reagan is, aside from the guy with Alzheimers).

[The Ghost of bps21 0]

That is not a shitty reference. As far as attempted Presidential murder references go it ranks in the top 2 or 3.

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

See above. Hisako opened my eyes to a lot of things - not just Joshi, not just a better way to wrestle, but the inner contradictions we have to live with everyday; the choices we make, even when we know how harmful they can be; the irony that individual greatness comes when one is selfless. I remember JON Burr quoting Kris Kristofferson to describe her: "A pusher and a prophet / Partly truth and partly fiction / A walking contradiction" - if it's not true about her, I don't know who else it's supposed to apply to (besides Johnny Cash). I don't know about the rest of you, but I sit here and watch her work, and I think about "Victory Through Guts," and I think about what she endured, endured to the point of addiction, and I wonder how sick I must be to praise and applaud her accomplishments, knowing what price she had to pay, knowing it's no victory at all to be chewed up, spat out, and thrown away once one's body is absolutely wrecked from the effort - ask Wakizawa about that toll, or ask Momoe, or (may they rest in peace) ask Plum Mariko and Emiko Kado, if you could. And yet, I sit here knowing that I can't have it any other way, because she didn't want it any other way, and somehow that justifies it all, even when it doesn't justify it in the least.

 

I don't know how that makes her my favorite. I guess it just makes her more real, more human, more accessible than all the others, and I find it impossible to turn away from that.

 

 

This is what prompted me to ask if he was (maybe, just maybe) taking it all a tad seriously.

Come on be honest, that post just went over your head.

 

You were trolling, so get the fuck over it.

 

Everyone here has an unhealthy obsession with wrestling, so let's quit playing the "holier than thou" bullshit.

No, that post was sad.

 

This kind of thought should be saved for the great classics of literature, art, and music. It's like writing a 30 page dissertation on a Tom Clancy novel: the care by the reviewer exceeds what is put in by the reviewer.

 

Oh and it looks to me like YOU are the one with the holier than thou attitude. believe me, I read an understand what he said there. believe it or not you condescending, limp-wristed asshole, I'm actually a pretty smart guy. What did I get out of it:

 

This guy has wasted his talent on reviewing Joshi. And he likely doesn't get out much.

[Guest RickyChosyu]

And everything else is tied for 1st/2nd? Keep your target audience in mind - 14 year olds are not going to get things that happened in '81. You're dating yourself (though I hear that can stave off prostate cancer, you old bat).

 

BTW, when did Dames die and leave the site to you? I wouldn't entirely count on him being gone for all eternity.

[Coffin Surfer 0]

"No...everyone here likes wrestling."

 

If they don't care than why are they reading Chris' posts and reviews? If you don't post here about wrestling, fine say what you want about us lunatics. If not, than quit wasting your own time by trying to argue some since into us.

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

Last I checked, Hokuto, while just a character in the ring, is a real person. Which is more than can be said for Batman.

 

Funny that you're all just doing what he wants. Also funny that not a one of you would actually say this anywhere where he could respond.

 

And you should try watching wrestling sometime, smart guy; pro wrestling ranks just barely above porn in terms of self-destruction and exploitation. He's right about the 'victory through guts' thing; women aren't physically built to take the punishment that goes on in a wrestling ring, yet quite a few of them do over there anyway. Hokuto was an extreme case of that, wrestling through a broken neck and broken vertebrae. There's a tape you can find where you can watch her take a painkiller shot just so she can go out and work a match in Korea. They do some really fucked up shit, just to go out and get some applause from a crowd that has next to no appreciation for the kind of work they put in and the shit they suffer through.

 

Coey wasn't "taking it too seriously" -- he was talking about the worked and the all-too-real aspects of wrestling. Most people just turn a blind eye to the fact that wrestling is a nasty, nasty lifestyle, because it's easier to rationalize likeing it if you don't have to think about how harmful it can be.

I'm sorry I don't understand this post. I do not watch Joshi, and therefore your eloquent insults are wasted on my wage-slave skull mind, unable or unwilling to experience the sheer rapture that is watching Japanese women head drop each other and ponder the mysteries of the universe.

[The Ghost of bps21 0]

I was only 2 when it happened...I'm not old. I'm just not stupid.

 

On Jubuki...until Dames decides to change his own policy on banned posters...I wouldn't hold my breath.

[The Ghost of bps21 0]

"No...everyone here likes wrestling."

 

If they don't care than why are they reading Chris' posts and reviews? If you don't post here about wrestling, fine say what you want about us lunatics. If not, than quit wasting your own time by trying to argue some since into us.

I just don't understand your response.

[Coffin Surfer 0]

This kind of thought should be saved for the great classics of literature, art, and music. It's like writing a 30 page dissertation on a Tom Clancy novel: the care by the reviewer exceeds what is put in by the reviewer.

 

Oh and it looks to me like YOU are the one with the holier than thou attitude. believe me, I read an understand what he said there. believe it or not you condescending, limp-wristed asshole, I'm actually a pretty smart guy. What did I get out of it:

 

This guy has wasted his talent on reviewing Joshi. And he likely doesn't get out much.

 

For someone who claims to be smart, you really don't act very intelligent.

 

I'm an asshole, but I'm not limp wristed.

 

I don't think claiming to be smarter than you makes me holier than thou, because that's not saying very much. If I was dellusional, I would set my sights a little higher.

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

And everything else is tied for 1st/2nd? Keep your target audience in mind - 14 year olds are not going to get things that happened in '81. You're dating yourself (though I hear that can stave off prostate cancer, you old bat).

 

BTW, when did Dames die and leave the site to you? I wouldn't entirely count on him being gone for all eternity.

Ah, thank you for using small words, so I, one of the lowly common people, can dare to speak in your mighty Joshi-watching presence:

 

Your reference sucked. Next time talk about Charles Guiteau or Leon Czolgosz: the coolest of ALL Presidental assassins.

 

Wait, how can a LOWLY WWE watcher like now anything about those two?

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

This kind of thought should be saved for the great classics of literature, art, and music. It's like writing a 30 page dissertation on a Tom Clancy novel: the care by the reviewer exceeds what is put in by the reviewer.

 

Oh and it looks to me like YOU are the one with the holier than thou attitude. believe me, I read an understand what he said there. believe it or not you condescending, limp-wristed asshole, I'm actually a pretty smart guy. What did I get out of it:

 

This guy has wasted his talent on reviewing Joshi. And he likely doesn't get out much.

 

For someone who claims to be smart, you really don't act very intelligent.

 

I'm an asshole, but I'm not limp wristed.

 

I don't think claiming to be smarter than you makes me holier than thou, because that's not saying very much. If I was dellusional, I would set my sights a little higher.

I have to take this thread's rating down a bit... Coffin Surfer just no sold the post he was replying to and put some stuff in to pop the crowd. It didn't make a lick of sense. I'd expect stuff like this from HBK... not him.