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Kitaoka's good, but he's not that good. Top 20 definitely, but Top 15 is arguable.

My bad. I thought I remembered the Prater fight having been much more recent than it was. However, the Kitaoka thing is hard to argue with, IMO. Though, now that I think about it, a win over Diaz doesn't mean as much as it once did, so I'm thinking of dropping Sherk (whose wins have otherwise been against also-rans), and Diego (whose other wins come at MW).

Silva & Lindland were supposed to fight, but Matt pulled out for presumably a better payday against MVA at 205lbs. Also, Silva's the best striker at either 170 or 185lbs, but it doesn't change the fact that his bottom game is still poo.

Hughes, Silva, Kato, Newton, Sherk, Nakao, Sakurai, Shields, Kunioku & possibly Shields. ...no. Karo has a several Top 10 caliber wins (Lytle, Diaz, Thompson) to Condit's one, and I honestly think beating even a lackluster Diaz trumps the Trigg win, and I'd say Diaz could've beaten Trigg at anytime over the past year or so. And if you want to rank Condit, what of Prater & Kitaoka? Or Noble & Inoue? ...what? Shields, whom just beat Condit and likely climbed in everyone's rankings, got handily defeated by Kikuchi the last tiem they faced. Kikuchi has also smashed Morgan, Inoue, Ikemoto & Brudvik, and taken close ones over Kiuma & Nakao. Aoki, in turn, handily beat Kikuchi, and mugged Hironaka, Ikemoto & Wisniewski. His two losses? A robbery against a mid-rejuvination Sakurai and a win turned loss via Nakao's backpeddaling KO special. Hironaka is a bit more controversial, but he holds a close one over a ready-to-breakthrough Diaz, and in his last three fights has finished Wada, Schultz & Charuto. Each has loss to almost completely Top 10 caliber guys, and would probably take the majority of the North Americans hovering from 10-20.

Not really. Trigg finally got ranked after beating Charuto, and never really did a whole lot else in his career other than troubling Sakurai & Hughes. In reality, the rest of his wins peak with Jhun, whom he struggled against. As for Charuto, I'll admit that I vastly overrated him. The Castillo win seemed nice, until we all realized Castillo isn't shit anymore and was never that good to begin with. Then there's Newton, who was in the middle of a 1-4 streak and failing to make weight. Charuto put up arguably his best performance against Hughes, but it's always very dangerous to rank someone on a performance in loss, which I and many others did. His sole win since the Newton fight is over Nakanishi. Condit's a damn good prospect, but the fact is Kitaoka, who's outside of the Top 15, put him and his homeboy Schulte in their place not that long ago, and you even just admitted that you think Trigg's loss can be chalked up to age. I'll agree I may have overrated Sherk, simply due to my refusal to rank "Time Out" Fitch.

The only way Silva survives on the ground against Franklin is via more illegal upkicks.

Vitali WISHES he had an ounce of Waldimir's talent. What he does have that his little brother never will is a solid chin.

For all his talent, the fact that Wladimir is always a solid shot away from a humiliating loss leads me to believe he's slightly more prone to have any amount of legitimacy come crashing down.

Shamrock is not a better striker than Bonnar, who's easily as durable, with a more well rounded game. Forrest may not have the power to crack an egg or Tito's chin, but has a huge advantage on the ground, and if he's smart he'll wear ken out in the clinch, trip him up, and bust his head open from mount.

Notable ROTR results: - Okami gets completely robbed against Shields in the semifinals, with the judges arguably costing him the tournament. - The "Trigg is unsubbable from up top" myth is exposed, as Condit submits him easily via triangle. - Shields claims he thought his JD over Okami was fair, and then in usual fashion humps Condit for the win as I recall why I really fucking hate Shields. - Hironaka further proves how underrated he is, and thus how good Aoki really is, as he TKO's a retiring Charuto in Rd.2. Though, he still hits like a girl. - Hamanka submits Cabbage via kimura and basically kills any legitimacy he has left... which is none. My new WW Top 10: 1) Matt Hughes 2) Georges St. Pierre 3) BJ Penn 4) Shinya Aoki 5) Akira Kikuchi 6) Karo Parisyan 7) Jake Shields 8) Diego Sanchez 9) Sean Sherk 10) Kuniyoshi Hironaka

Judging by my BK experience, Monson has a suprising amount of nuthuggers. Luckily, none of them can refute the fact that Monson is a hotheaded, oft-boring piece of shit.

I bring the knowledge and references. Rudo brings the... Canadianess.

I just wanna' smash Rudo. Bang! Bang! DAGGER!

Tait Lindlwned himself with his "Jesse's gonna' run through (Noah) like a train" comment. Personally, I'm hoping for Tait/Bisping.

Am I the only one who thought Ross burped as Kendall kneed him in the gut?

Oh, shit. Ross proves us all wrong. Too bad he's still gonna' lose.

Ross is gonna' die in the sauna. Kendall via default.

If there's one thing Tito's antics are good for, it's messing with hotheads like Herman. But boo on Tito for not knowing shit about Herman.

Did Solomon & Kendall learn nothing from last season? Moronic, middle-of-the-pack fighters need not waste time strategizing.

Aleksander is good and has shown potential, but I find him pretty overrated by many people at the moment. His ground game has looked like nothing special, and his flailing punching style has yet to be tested against anyone of note. Hopefully the Barnett fight answers questions about both.

One loss in 22 years, bitches.

It was an amateur fight from '99. Rhode Island Vale Tudo, IIRC.

Sylvia was a tubby 300lbs. POS at the time. But still... outwrestled and G&P'ed by Rivera?

1) Ricco didn't KO him, though he did rock him. 2) Arlovski wasn't elite then, but... Joel Gershon def. Rumina Sato Minoru Toyonaga def. Genki Sudo David Dodd def. Jeff Monson Jorge Rivera def. Tim Sylvia Yasunori Okuda def. Akihiro Gono Phil Johns def. Jeff Curran (x2) Anthony Hamlett def. Jeff Curran Jason Maxwell def. Jens Pulver Shane Rice def. Mark Hominick

I'm Mexican. They're called "sweet hook-ups."