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It's pretty commonly accepted that Hughes passed out first, yet was able to win in a sort of "first man to his feet" fashion.

Bas Rutten is the correct answer.

Sakurai still isn't quite the same the fighter he was during his prime, and frankly would always be hard pressed to defeat some of the elite wrestlers that dominate 169lbs (not to mention the size disadvantages he would face). That being said, he could most likely make a good showing against most 169lbs fighters when he's "on," though Gomi's looking to offer him a very tough stylistic fight come NYE.

Yeah, it was definitely hard to watch Mach struggle after the car accident, especialy live.

Since the move is still miscalled in pro wrestling... Toe-Hold: Most often used from a "kneebar" position (the opponent's head facing the opposite direction as the user's, with one of their legs caught in between the user's along the front side of the user's body). The user will grab the side of the opponent's captured foot along near the toes (on the side opposite of their big toe) with the hand opposite of the attacking leg (right for left, left for right). Meanwhile, they'll wrap their other arm around the leg near the opponent's achilles tendon, eventually grabbing their own wrist. From there, they'll twist the foot away from themselves while trying to keep the rest of the leg and body stabilized, OR, they might allow the opponent's leg to bend naturally away from them, following it and eventually pressing the leg down towards, and eventually a bit off to the side of the opponent's back. The opponent's non-trapped leg can also be attacked, with the attacking and wrapping arms being reversed. Like many leglocks, the move is most often started from half guard, though it can also be combined with an omo-plata.While it can be used from standing position, it is nigh impossible to finish from that position unless the opponent's legs are at least somewhat grapevined (like in Doerkson/Inoue). Frank Mir begins to lock a toe-hold on Tank Abbott.

I suppose they're showing the Mach fight due to his recent resurgence, but god damn was that fight dull by Sakurai standards. Then again, I suppose they've already played the Trigg bouts a good deal and the Sherk match doesn't exactly have Matt looking at his best.

Invariably. Hell, doing nothing from up top usually scores more than effective guard work, as in... ...Charuto giving a textbook example of what should have been a 10-8 round due to effective submission attempts from the guard. Charuto would lose a unanimous decision, which included two scores of 30-27 for Hughes.

Yes. Wladimir just won an IBF/WBO eliminator bout against formerly unbeaten Samuel Peter via unanimous decision.

Good riddance.

Yes, Imes' mother died in Vegas.

"Fuck coke! Snort Xyience!"

Randleman's KO of Mirko should be noted if only because of Gomi's hilarious facial reactions from the audience.

Butterfly guard:Basically, instead of wrapping and locking their legs behind an opponent's back like in a closed guard, the user places both of his legs in between his opponent's, or if you can handle the terminology, presses his feet or shins against the opponent's taint, or their feet on the opponent's hips. It can used from varying distances (IE- with the opponent pressed up directly agains the user or standing a foot or two away), but with the upper body held close. Used primarily for sweeps.

Also, nuthugging aside, Oleg gets a thumbs up from me in regards to MMA Legend status from me. Hey, I just love me some overachievers. *playfully nuzzles Matyushenko's ear*

A couple of things addressed: - UFC's biggest problem in regards to judges is the fact that they're mainly people who may have taken a karate class or two earlier in their life, and are now considered adequate to judges MMA bouts. They've never really taken to training their judges in how to properly score an MMA fight, and never bother to correct them when horrible scores are given in a bout, assumedly because it might reflect bad on the UFC if even they have to acknowledge that their judges are inept. PRIDE's judges seem to understand the game a bit better, but often play favorites (I'd say arguably moreso than UFC judges, because frankly, their judges should know better), and to this day Matt Hume still sounds like he's trying to explain astrophysics as opposed to their scoring system. And, not to toot their horn again (well, maybe), but SHOOTO has by far the best scoring system in MMA right now. Half points are used (9.5, 8.5, etc.), plus close submission attempts ("catches") are given nearly as much weight as clean knockdowns. Fighters can often win or at least tie a round from the bottom if they're outworking the guy on top of them. Of course, the standing 8 count on knockdowns and abundance of draws (though not nearly as many as Pancrase, certainly more than anywhere in the States) would turn a number of people off, not to mention the mostly undersized Japanese fighters. - Weight classes differ a bit from the US to Japan, which though not that different on first glance, actually leads to a large size disparity between the fighters, especially when combined with the fact that not as many Japanese fighters cut much weight or even cut at all. US weight classes Superheavyweight: 266lbs and up Heavyweight: 206-265lbs Lightheavyweight: 186-205lbs Middleweight: 171-185lbs Welterweight: 156-170lbs. Lightweight: 146-155lbs Featherweight: 145lbs and less - Examples of good teams in MMA: Miletich Martial Arts Notable fighters: Matt Hughes, Tim Sylvia, Jason Black, Jeremy Horn, Spencer Fisher Purebred Tokyo/ Killer Bee Notable fighters: Norifumi Yamamoto, Akira Kikuchi, Koutetsu Boku, Atsushi Yamamoto, Shinsuke Shoji Team Quest Notable fighters: Randy Couture, Dan Henderson, Matt Lindland, Cael Sonnen, Matt Horwich

Eh, I'd say 160 is a fair cut off for LW's, size advantages notwithstanding. Otherwise, you end up cuttig out half of the LW division rankings (PRIDE's guys), and you certainly can't rank them as WW's.

Kerr and Igor were considered great fighters because they looked good against nobodies, just like 99% of HW's throughout MMA history. Losses to Sperry, Herring, Fujita, Telligman, etc., really speaks volumes. IMO, there's only been a handful of GOOD heavyweights throughout MMA's short history.

BJ's lack of a guard game is none too important, as few guys are going to successfully utilize and offensive guard game against Trigg, and BJ is smart enough to utilize a more defensive guard. The most important equation in this bout is: a) Trigg is, and probably always will be horrible defensively on the bottom and... b) ...Penn is one of the best ground scramblers in MMA, and has found a way to put absolutely everyone he's ever faced beneath him at some point. a + b = c (BJ via RNC, Rd.1)

I think your list should be condensed a good deal, Rudo. A guy like Kid is a good fighter, but he's barely blip in the history of in regards to name value and/or accomplishments. Guys like Enson Inoue, Hayato Sakurai and Alexandre Franca Noguiera are all more influential SHOOTO guys. Also, guys like Kerr, Vovchanchyn & Rizzo are, stories of mental issues aside, notable only for being busts.

- Submitted. As in, "I'm going to laugh my fucking balls off while watching Jeff Newton get submitted by Sam Hoger." - UFC sure seems to love the Freestyle Academy. - Gabriel "Napao" Gonzaga is a multiple time ADCC vet, who I will forever have a soft spot for due to the debilitating calf cruncher he nailed on that deuchebag Pe de Pano.

I swear to God, you bitches better know who Mitsuhiro Ishida is.

Jeff Newton's a kung fu guy I wrote off years ago. Lo and behold, the guy's managed to put together a winning record and has a HL reel Ko over Joe Crilly. Never did I think this guy would getting subbbed on a UFC PPV, but I guess he proved me wrong.

"You know, I didn't really have a gameplan, I was just hoping to fight smart and win." - Nick Diaz

Kimura: Similar at first glance to the keylock, often leading to confusion. Assuming that the user going after the opponent's left arm once again, this time the grabbing of his wrist is done with right hand this time, with the left arm again snaking through his arm, underneath the elbow and grabbing the user's own wrist. From here, the arm is pulled away from the opponent's body, then around towards and eventually behind their back, with their arm being torqued towards the back of their head. A versatile move, the kimura can be used from both the top and bottom (though most effectively from North/South) as well as standing, though again, not from an opponent's closed guard. Though somewhat difficult to garner a submission with it from the bottom, it makes a great reversal move, as seen in Bonnar/Hogar. Kazushi Sakuraba applies a Kimura to Royler Gracie

Keylock/Americana: Otherwise known as a "top wristlock." Basically, the user will grab an opponent's (in this case) left wrist with his left hand, with the opponent's bent towards the same direction as his head at a roughly ninety degree angle. He'll then snake his right hand underneat the bent elbow of his opponent, grab his own left wrist, and then begin torquing the opponent's elbow towards the sky while keeping the wrist and hand pinned to the mat. The move relies much more on arm strength than most others, and is almost usless from the bottom, standing, or in an opponent's guard. Tends to be favored by wrestlers, as they'll often have opponents on their backs, and usually have arm strength to spare. Ron Waterman keylocks Kevin Randleman