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You are kidding right? Cano has had a better start than Jeff Kent, Biggio and Joe Morgan. The #'s are right there. You have to be kidding? Joe Morgan hit .230 in his 4th year. Biggio was hitting 4 HR's and driving in 40 rbi's in his 3rd/4th year. CANO IS NOT IN THEIR LEAGUE WHEN COMPARING THEM ON THEIR FIRST 4 SEASONS? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Please!
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I don't agree with any of this. First of all, Jackie Robinson and Ryne Sandberg won MVP trophies in their first four seasons and were definitely considered to be amongst the top five players in the game. Their numbers were off the chart compared to Cano. The other five were definitely way ahead of where Cano is as well. I guess he's put up some decent HR and RBI already, but his other numbers pale in comparison. The other thing to consider is that by their fourth season almost everyone on that list was a superstar or damn close to superstar level. They were beginning meteoric rises. After four seasons, I don't even know if I'd call Cano a good player. He was below average at the plate and in the field last year. He has youth on his side and two good seasons to his name, but nothing that makes him even stand out among his contemporaries at 2B. I was comparing the players based on #'s. Lets go take a look at Baseball-Reference.com Sandberg Playing in a Hitters Park Year Ba HR's RBI's Runs OPS PLus 1 .271 7 54 103 90 2 .261 8 48 94 82 3 .314 19 84 114 140 4 .305 26 83 113 132 Jeff Kent Playing in a Pitchers Park Year Ba HR's RBI's Runs OPS PLus 1 .239 11 50 52 105 2 .270 21 80 65 104 3 .292 14 68 53 111 4 .278 20 65 65 110 Craig Biggio Year Ba HR's RBI's Runs OPS PLus 1 .257 13 60 64 114 2 .276 4 42 53 93 3 .295 4 46 79 113 4 .277 6 39 96 118 Joe Morgan Year Ba HR's RBI's Runs OPS PLus 1 .271 14 40 100 131 2 .285 5 42 60 132 3 .275 6 42 73 131 4 .236 15 43 94 109 Robinson Cano Year Ba HR's RBI's Runs OPS PLus 1 .297 14 62 78 106 2 .342 15 78 62 126 3 .306 19 97 93 120 4 .271 14 72 70 86 I fully understand that Cano had a down year last year. I understand that he should be more patient of a hitter. I understand that he lacks focus at times in the field. He is comparable though to Current HOF and 2 future HOF based on their first 4 seasons. Mystery 2nd basemen playing in a fairly neutral park that if anything favors pitchers. I'm using the first four full seasons for this mystery man. Year Ba HR's RBI's Runs OPS PLus 1 .316 21 69 101 136 2 .311 8 48 61 111 3 .291 15 63 104 114 4 .262 11 60 87 87 A little less power than Cano but scores more and held his own in OPS plus. Who was it? Marcus Giles, who is already out of the league. So yeah, don't count me in on the Cano is a HOFer bandwagon. I never said Cano was a HOFer. I said Cano has HOF potential based off his first 4 years compared to other HOFers and 2 players who are going to get into the HOF. Cano has to keep up his level of production/improve for another 10 seasons at least to get into the HOF. What the hell happened to Marcus Giles? He went from being a 23 old all star to being released by the Rockies in spring training last year.
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Ok thats your opinion. He isn't as good as Chase Utley but he still has had a better start to his career than Morgan, Kent and Biggio and comparable numbers to Sandberg.
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I don't agree with any of this. First of all, Jackie Robinson and Ryne Sandberg won MVP trophies in their first four seasons and were definitely considered to be amongst the top five players in the game. Their numbers were off the chart compared to Cano. The other five were definitely way ahead of where Cano is as well. I guess he's put up some decent HR and RBI already, but his other numbers pale in comparison. The other thing to consider is that by their fourth season almost everyone on that list was a superstar or damn close to superstar level. They were beginning meteoric rises. After four seasons, I don't even know if I'd call Cano a good player. He was below average at the plate and in the field last year. He has youth on his side and two good seasons to his name, but nothing that makes him even stand out among his contemporaries at 2B. I was comparing the players based on #'s. Lets go take a look at Baseball-Reference.com Sandberg Playing in a Hitters Park Year Ba HR's RBI's Runs OPS PLus 1 .271 7 54 103 90 2 .261 8 48 94 82 3 .314 19 84 114 140 4 .305 26 83 113 132 Jeff Kent Playing in a Pitchers Park Year Ba HR's RBI's Runs OPS PLus 1 .239 11 50 52 105 2 .270 21 80 65 104 3 .292 14 68 53 111 4 .278 20 65 65 110 Craig Biggio Year Ba HR's RBI's Runs OPS PLus 1 .257 13 60 64 114 2 .276 4 42 53 93 3 .295 4 46 79 113 4 .277 6 39 96 118 Joe Morgan Year Ba HR's RBI's Runs OPS PLus 1 .271 14 40 100 131 2 .285 5 42 60 132 3 .275 6 42 73 131 4 .236 15 43 94 109 Robinson Cano Year Ba HR's RBI's Runs OPS PLus 1 .297 14 62 78 106 2 .342 15 78 62 126 3 .306 19 97 93 120 4 .271 14 72 70 86 I fully understand that Cano had a down year last year. I understand that he should be more patient of a hitter. I understand that he lacks focus at times in the field. He is comparable though to Current HOF and 2 future HOF based on their first 4 seasons.
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VH1 Trash TV Compendium
YourKock'sReallyGreat replied to Cheech Tremendous's topic in Television & Film
You forgot to mention that one of them was dating two girls at once. His gf of 6 months got replaced in the house by his gf of 6 years and she still wanted to be with him and make things work. If you want to believe that it is "reality". -
VH1 Trash TV Compendium
YourKock'sReallyGreat replied to Cheech Tremendous's topic in Television & Film
You need to ad MTV to the headline as well. I have a guilty pleasure for A Double Shot at Love. I think the Ikki Twins are beyond sexy. Plus Real World is always good for trash tv especially since they have a transgender on the cast this year. -
He is on pace for it, but you are right about another decade or so. He has 1 Cy Young and 3 top 5 finishes. I think the automatic # for Pitchers from this generation is going to be 250 Wins. This is due to pitchers being babied/natured while being brought up, injuries, high priced contracts. Look at the best pitchers who came up earlier this decade, Oswalt, Sabathia, Hudson, Santana, Halladay and Sabathia. They are all around the age of 30 and their win totals are all in the low 100's. Hudson is at almost 150. 300 is going to be very exclusive.
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If he plays until his early 40's he will be awfully close. I said he is on pace to get between 3500-4000. Jeter could get to 3500 by the time he hits 40. He already has 2500 and is going to turn 35 this year. He has an outside shot at 4000. Pete Rose at the age of 34 had 2547 career hits while Jeter had 2535. The thing for Rose though is that his next 4 years after 34, he had 3 200 hit seasons and 1 198 hit season. Jeter has a long long long ways to go.
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NY Yankees Locks Alex Rodriquez On pace to hit 700-800 Homeruns, currently is over 550 and will turn 34 this year Derek Jeter On pace to get 3500-4000 hits. Has 2500 hits and will turn 35 this year Mariano Rivera The greatest closer of all time. Mike Mussina who just retired 270 Career Wins, better #'s than Tom Glavine Borderline Andy Pettitte. He would have to pitch until his early 40's to get 300 wins if he wants to get in. He is currently at 215 at the age of 36. Hall of Fame Potential Robinson Cano. His first 4 seasons are comparable (not as great) to Ryne Sandberg and Jackie Robinson. Cano's first 4 seasons are better than Jeff Kent, Craig Biggio, Roberto Alomar, Joe Morgan and Rod Carew (first 4 years). Cano has a BA of .303, 62 HR's, 303 Rbi's in his first 4 years. CC Sabathia Has 117 Wins and will turn 29 this season. Might be the last player to get to 300 wins. Long shot Naiwf, I am suprised that you left Santana off of your list. One of the best starting pitchers in the game the last 5 years and has an outside shot at 300 as well. Vitamin, I am sorry but Todd Helton is not a sure thing Hall of Famer. His numbers are too comparable to alot of other first basemen during this generation. I also feel that writers are going to attribute his power #'s to Coors Field as well. Todd only has 300 HR's, 1100 Rbi's and 2000 hits. Another problem is that he is turning 36 this year and is coming off of a down/injury season. That is not a good sign. He is definately borderline/great player but he would have to play several more years and pad his stats. If he were to retire tommorow he wouldn't get in.
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Wow, the WWE finally for once throws a curveball. Congrats to Kofi on his upset over Kane.
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From Cluless to Champion to Classless
YourKock'sReallyGreat replied to YourKock'sReallyGreat's topic in Sports
I know full well that the Yankees offered Joe a contrac that they full well he would turn down. That contract was still one of the highest contracts if not highest in baseball for Managers plus bonuses. He wasn't "fired". -
From Cluless to Champion to Classless
YourKock'sReallyGreat replied to YourKock'sReallyGreat's topic in Sports
Is that for me? Joe Torre wasn't fired. His contract ran out. He was offered a one year deal and he refused. -
From Cluless to Champion to Classless
YourKock'sReallyGreat replied to YourKock'sReallyGreat's topic in Sports
The Yankees fired him? I didn't get that memo. Last time I checked his contract ran out and the Yankees offered him a new one (which he refused). -
From Cluless to Champion to Classless
YourKock'sReallyGreat replied to YourKock'sReallyGreat's topic in Sports
He was a co writer for the book. Hell has froozen over. Bob and I agree on something. -
I just played the demo and this game is going to be great. I got bumped off of Xbox Live. Did this happen to anybody else? Are you able to play with a friend online for the demo? A couple of issues that I had with the game. I understand that it is just a Demo and I am sure Capcom is going to fix them. The ammo sharing needs to be fixed. You are unable to give as much or as little ammo as you want to your partner. The partners ai is stupid. I was playing as Chris and the girl had run out of ammo and there were ammo laying on the ground but she wouldn't pick up any of it. This led to both of us getting our asses handed to us.
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http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3861386 Yankees and Andy are closing in on a deal.
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Thanks for the headsup. I am downloading it now.
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I just saw that. The Knicks should release him after the roster deadline for the playoffs is set. I would hate to see this bum pull a Mourning and leach/steal a championship.
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The 25th Anniversary of WrestleMania Thread
YourKock'sReallyGreat replied to DrVenkman PhD's topic in The WWE Folder
I have a feeling Piper will be involved with this (Whatever Rourke does) in some capacity as well. The question being - does he appear as "Mickey Rouke - Actor" or does he appear as The Ram? Could he legally show up as "The Ram"? I am asking because it is a character created by someone else. -
Christians Beat Special Ed team 100-0
YourKock'sReallyGreat replied to BruteSquad_BRODY's topic in Sports
So it is the teams fault for continuing to make 3 pointers? What the fuck are they supposed to do. Stop playing, turn the ball over or violate the shot clock? I am so sick of this pc friendly country that we live in where everyone gets a medal/championship. These kids need to learn that it is just a fucking game and not everyone wins. Thats apart of life. How are they going to function when they are older and expect everything to be just handed to them? Also, what is this golden rule? I would much rather have my opponent do their thing instead of trying to throw the game and not give it their all because I suck. -
Cody Rhodes is out with all of Legacy attacking HHH.
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#10 is going to be Ted Dibiase with his shitty new theme song.
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JTG is #9 in the Rumble.
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I was wrong yet again about Koslov as he gets eliminated by HHH. #8 is Orton.
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MVP and Khali get eliminated by Koslov. HHH now makes his way out as #7.