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Those are strong words to use DH and the tone in your post makes it seem as if Loss and I are acting without just cause or reason. Loss and I are not going to delete every thread that veers off topic into wackyness or "fun" since that would benefit no one, nor would it help foster future discussions (again, ask Loss for his reasoning of why he closed the Eddy thread in PM). We'll poll this idea then sometime soon here (probably when Loss comes back online when I can talk to him about this).

I'll toss this out here since it's topic for discussion: Instead of moving non-WWE related threads from the WWE folder into the HD or GC folders, would you all prefer another folder such as "WWE folder HiJinx" or something like that where Loss and the other mods can move threadsinto there that become too wacky or veer off topic into left field?

Only problem with that idea that I see is that with a board as large as TSM, Loss and I might end up moving several non-WWE topic threads from the WWE folder to the GC folder which would just end up turning GC intoit the WWE-lite folder.

If I was then wouldn't we have scrapped the WWE folder change by now? I simply am looking at both sides of the matter about moving threads from the WWE folder into HD because right now I see few positives coming out of doing something like that.

Alina needed a mention in the ESTABLISHMENT~! recap.

Why can't you just move those threads, since so many have fun with it, to HD or GC or something like that so that they can continue fooling around? On a related note, the thread that Loss locked today was in no way even CLOSE to anything like that, I don't see why in the world it was closed. I'm not against moving those types of threads to HD but at the same time we're just cluttering HD up with more "junk" that many of the regulars in that folder have been against too. It's a catch .22 either way. I haven't spoken to Loss yet today so I wasn't around when he made the call to close the thread in question.

Oh, no, you can't provide evidence, because if you do, you're sure to reference another incident that doesn't specifically relate to the topic at hand. We can't mention who he out pops, because those people weren't mentioned in the topic, we can't bring up matches where he got a great reaction, because that has the DOUBLE WHAMMY~! of mentioning a non-topic mentioned wrestler AND referencing a match, which could cause people to debate whether or not he was getting a reaction in that match. And we can't have that, because the topic is "Is Benoit over?" not "Was Benoit over on x date while wrestling x wrestler?" You can talk about anything you want so long as it relates to the topic being discussed in the thread. If the thread goes from talking about Benoit's appearance on RAW while talking about how Matt Hardy has been handled poorly since he jumped from SD! to RAW as a means to show how the jumps have been booked well for either guy then that's okay. Another example is if someone wants to bring up how HHH's pops aren't as loud as say...Brock's and then state how Brock is more over then him in a thread that is discussing the topic of "who is over?" and someone brings up those two (one on RAW and one on SD) then that's okay. Threads like "Tomko and Fertig" and its like will be looked at by the mods. If we see that the thread has totally veered off topic (i.e. its dead) and it's leading to nowhere then chances are we're going to give things a chance to run it's course rather than close the thread for "discussions that do not go anywhere." The image that the change has is a very negative one with the perception from folks that Loss and I are trying to weed out the "bad" posters who normally veer off topic and make creative or funny dialogue's or feel like Loss and I are going to have to give people approval before they make that post about HHH. That's not going to happen because simply put, that's not how Loss and I want to moderate the folder. Things got off to a very shaky start with the WWE folder change making it's premature debut but Loss and I are committed to seeing this thing throughy and if that means we have to revise the rules multiple times or else simply scrap them to see the folder improve then so be it.

Game was banned at WDI at *least* a dozen times after he was first banned the first time. Dutch or someone can come in and confirm those headaches. Eagan seemed to have a beef with everyone.

I venture to guess he's banned now for being a confirmed PBP by Dames.

Nah, he's always been consistent in his disdain for AS being made a mod (of any forum). I don't care if he's an OAOAST mod. That was my point: who cares if he has power in a separate thread that really has nothing to do with the board at large? I've become more positive on AS over the years, but I still wouldn't support him for a position of "real" power. Nothing against him, or anything, but I'll call 'em as I see 'em. I too have also gained a new respect for AS who I feel has improved as a poster (but isn't quite ready for prime time modding yet). ::bans Sass:: Whoops!

One quick (non purpose of thread) point I want to make: Some of you will notice that some posts are missing in this thread. I deleted the posts that either contained DRAWMUH~! or else posts that added nothing to the thread except back and worth banter. So I apologize to those of you who were wondering where your posts went.

Krazy Karter - Bob Barron was right. CWM - While I can't speak for Zack or Tom, I do not hold any ill will or begrudge anyone after getting into a "feud" with them on this board (sans banned posters). It's also not healthy to hold a grudge is what I've also been told by 9 out of 10 internet doctors too because your head might shrink.

Nah, he's always been consistent in his disdain for AS being made a mod (of any forum). If Tom get's a hat trick in fuck-ups this week, then he gets a new Escalade with leather interior. And it'll be white too.

Nah. I've still got love for the puro folks so I'm one up on Jingus there...

There has been a gross error in understanding here and that's my fault. People can voice their opinions about me or any of the other mods. We are not going to ban you for calling us "bossy" or for telling someone to "lay off." I did not handle things with Downhome or Krazy Karter in the proper fashion and I apologize for publically berating them when I should have PM'ed them and told them to take their issues to Feedback. This is the site's Feedback folder. If anyone has an issue with what a mod does or says then *please* take the issue here, not in another thread where people are having a discussion. We will be more than happy to address any grievances you have with us in here and none of you will have to worry about paying some kind of consequence for speaking out against us. I was in the wrong for the way I handled myself in our AIM conversation DH and for that I am truly sorry. That was not one of my proudest moments and if I made you or anyone else feel as if they had to keep quiet about taking issues with a mod then I'm sorry for giving off that perception. Sorry guys.

I will explain myself here soon folks so at least let me get my post made before everyone is left calling for my head. My apologies for the wait.

Once things settle down and everything is in place, I'll start to post more in the folder.

Server upgrade. It was going slow.

I apologize folks, I was the one who gave Tom the bad intel last night. Tom, I apologize to you for last night's premature launch for the WWE folder change. Sorry everyone, my bad.

Yeah. No offense to Tom, but this seemed to come out of nowhere. Who decided this exactly? There must have been something specific to trigger it. I think Rudo, like me, probably feels it would have a lot more effect if Unfuckwithable delivered the message instead. No one "decided" on this in regards to the mods. Loss made a post in HD describing his plan to revamp this particular folder and I brought the idea to the mods and after ironing out what the rules should be (which Loss came up with), we decided to implement the plan. I have just seen this board get trashed too much and like Loss, I honestly want to see this folder improve in the variety of aspects which many of the regular posters in this folder have brought up. I might not post much in this particular folder but I will make it a point to pop in here every now and then to post. Loss has been a fan of wrestling for like, I dunno how long, but over the years he has proven himself to many of the "established" members from the Smarks days that he is capable of pulling something like this off and every mod/admin has full faith in him along with complete backing.

Dames will either make an official post on the matter tonight or sometime tomorrow. I see where the concern is and Dames has said he will address. In the meantime, I will be the designated mod that will help out the folder mods with whatever they will need.

Well jeez, my party got rained on. But yeah, just ignore Zsasz's last comment since there is no way I'm > you in Saved by the Bell knowledge. ::hums "I Am the Law" by Anthrax:: In all seriousness though, do not get get me involved in any problems you have with other posters Zsasz because comments like those could be considered flame baiting and that is something I don't wish to be a part of.

I end up agreeing with the conservative viewpoints more often than I do with the liberal ones so mark me down as a registered Republican.

Anyways, in all seriousness, thank you for upgrading the board IllOne.

I wasn't around at the time when Mario was banned but if I had to take a guess as to why he really did end up getting banned, I'd say admitting to being a PBP was the final straw since Mario was always teetering on the line of what is ban worthy and what isn't.