The Metal Maniac

How far/high can your average cat leap? I've no idea myself, but if it's less then the distance I can reach with my legs (IE, if I can get the bastard before it jumps) then they ain't getting at the face. And I would imagine that, with quick enough reflexes, even if a cat did make a leap for the face, one could probably swat it with an arm and knock it away.

Taker did a Zombie Situp after getting it at HitC.

I know Mankind has at least a few wins over Taker...were any of those clean?

Not in a universe where -ib- still lurks. Or Dave O'Neil.

That, and I would imagine that even if the cats did decide to try some sort of mass attack, one could probably just punt them away one-by-one, keeping them from massing their numbers too greatly...for a while, at least.

Mike Awesome vs Spike Dudley are some of the most brutal matches ever. And not just the PPV ones either. I remember once he awesome-bombed Spike three times in a row. By the end, he was literally pulling Spike up by himself; Spike was limp as hell. Such sickness. I too bought the concussion thing for a while, because they never really did an injury angle like that before (that I had seen) so I couldn't imagine that it was anything but legit.

I think you're right that no one has kicked out of the Burning Hammer...at least not Kobashi's version...but then, he's only done it what, 4 times? It wouldn't surprise me if someone had kicked out though...I know at least one person has kicked out of the Tiger Driver '91. I honestly don't think there are any though, unless we're only talking like, major feds. Those indy guys kick out of everything. But even then, I really can't think of any; any of the WWE moves one might think it could be (like the Pedigree or the Stunner) have been kicked out of. Unless there's some old-school ones which I'm forgetting, which is quite possible.

Okay, honest quesion. Outside of Taker and Yoko, who ever actually *did* come back from a loss in a Casket Match?

Is it safe to assume that this is the one I'm looking for? Also, I know that the thing is started by the destruction of Coast City; would that be included in there as well, or should I be looking for a few other issues as well? I don't like starting stories right in the middle.

No. Animals don't have souls, thus they don't go to Heaven or Hell. They just die. I find it interesting that the evolutionary theory apparantly has things to tell us about rocks. Inanimate rocks. Which don't evolve.

It doesn't mean that at all. You all have a black or a white hate means that every person is wearing a hat that is black or white. It is not implied at all in that sentence that there is at least one of each. Thus, it's easy to assume that they could all be one color.

So, I've been reading these comincs, and they kick some lotta ass. However, I don't read comics often, and thus must ask: How are the comics in which Hal first goes crazy? I've never read them, but now I want to. It seems many don't like them, but is that due to their quality, or the way Hal Jordan was treated? So basically: Are those good comics too, and how hard would it be (probably) to get my hands on them? I'm not a collector, so I'm not gonna hunt down a bunch of rare comics in mint condition, but I had heard they were out in trade paperback (which I assume means that they're bound together, like a book) so something like that would be fine. Or if they're not that rare, I could see if my local comic shops have them. So...how are they?

The Ring can't be used for good because, in the first place, if anyone tried to use it, Sauron would know where it was. Secondly, as they said a few times in the moveis, the Ring answers to Sauron alone. I suppose that means that only he REALLY knows how to use the Ring. The Ring is intrisically evil because it was created by the Lord of Evil specifically so that if it ever became seperated from Sauron, there'd be a number of safegards to help him get it back. Also remember that the Ring essentially has a mind of it's own; an evil one at that. Besides, it's the whole "power corrupts" theory. Even if someone could wield the Ring for a good purpose, eventually the ring would corrupt the user (as it corrupts everyone else) so they'd end up evil anyway. Both Gandalf and the Elf-WOman who's name escapes me refuse the Ring for this very reason; they're so powerful that they COULD wield the Ring, but they know that they'd be corrupted and made evil anyways, so Middle-Earth would STILL be fucked. I think the basic power of the Ring (besides the invisibility) is that it allows the user to dominate wills. Thus, when Sauron has it, he can MAKE Orcs ravage and kill and whatnot. However, I believe that is also one of Sauron's powers, and it was simply transferred into the Ring, hence why he is still able to do it (in a more limited form) before the Ring is destroyed, and why, once it is destroyed, all the orcs just kind of run like hell. All the Ring really did to Gollum was make him want the Ring more then anything else and live for 500 years. Keep in mind though, that Gollum spent those 500 years in a cave, never coming into contact with any other living creatures smarter then a fish, doing NOTHING but thinking about the Ring and how much he liked it. I think that is what made him go psycho and develop split personalities, one being his regular self, and one being his murdering self.

The WWE puts TM after every single person's name, but I don't think it really means much. As previously stated, Chris Benoit is allowed to use that name wherever he goes, because it's his real name. You CAN'T stop someone from using their real name. That's why The Warrior is allowed to use that name; the WWF owns the rights to The Ultimate Warrior, but that man's name now is LEGALLY Warrior, so he is allowed to use it just as I am allowed to use my name in whatever I do. Besides, there's a legal difference between TM and the R with a circle around it (which some wrestlers do have; I believe the Undertaker does, and a few others). As I understand it, TM is more or less the company saying "We assert that this name/thing is our creation and our property, so if you use it, we can and will sue you" whereas the R (Registered Copyright) means they've filed out all the paperwork and whatnot so that they're not ASSERTING that they own the rights; they really DO own all the rights to it and you are in deep shit if you use it. So really, a TM isn't as big a deal as an R. Assuming I remembered that properly.

Diesel won every single WWF belt in a single year back in 1994. Just to be picky. Because, technically, he shouldn't HAVE to. The move isn't sold as it should be, but the anklelock should be capable of breaking a man's ankle. So he doesn't NEED to work it over, because the guy in the hold is faced with the choice of tap out or his ankle will be broken. It doesn't matter how much his ankle hurts at the time; if it's gonna be broken, he HAS to tap. But of course, the move is NEVER sold as being that dangerous, and Angle seems to perfer to use it as a virtual resthold these days, just standing around hugging the guy's foot for 5 minutes.

Damn. That IS a good example, especially if you look at it from the perspective that he may NOT have killed anyone. I don't know too much about Manson as far as specifics go, but the simple fact that you said "probably" reminds me that it's very possible that he didn't kill anyone with his own hands. But undoubtably, he was still an evil man. Which kinda brings up the question: If I told you to kill someone, and you went out and did it, am I more evil for telling you to, or are you more evil for actually doing it? Or are we equally evil? I suppose once you get high enough that kinda becomes irrelevant (like in the case of Hitler; he was telling everyone to kill the Jews, and they all pretty much had no choice because he was running the country; I wouldn't call every single soldier in the German army evil, even though they DID all contribute, in some small way) but when you're only talking about 3-4 ordered murders (though Manson had what? Almost a dozen? like I said, I don't know much specifics about the man) I think it could be an interesting question to ask. As for the Native Americans: Honestly, I don't normally think of Manifest Destiny as being a purely racial thing, although now that you mention it, I can see the strong racial undertones. I think that was just the way I was taught about it though; anyway, my original point was that there was more to the Native American genocide then JUST racial motivations; while it's debatable how large a role it played, I think that the desire for the Native's land/gold played a part in it. Like, I suppose that if the Natives had nothing of worth and the land wasn't worth living on, they just would've started another slave trade there and shipped them back to Europe by the boatload. So while I agree that race did play a role, I think that there were also other motivations that Hitler did not have when he decided to kill all the Jews. On Ishii: Can you give me a link so's I could learn more about him? All I know about what he did is that he apparantly made POW's stand in sub-zero temperatures until they died, and would record how long it took. I was also told he did the same thing with diseases; they'd give them something horrible, then time how long it'd take them to die. Kinda testing the limits of the body, I guess.

Such a genius that he tried to invade Russia, while fighting practically everyone else on the planet. Such a genius that, even though he was an admirier of Napoleon, he made the EXACT SAME MISTAKE. Yeah, that's GENIUS. I'd think that if you majored in history, you'd know what the Maginot Line was and how badly that hurt the French. Since you don't seem to know, they built the most advanced line of defense ever (to that point) along their German border, and centered their troops there. This made the French a little confident, because they figured there was no way in hell the Germans would get through that line. And in fact, the Germans never did go THROUGH it; they went AROUND it. Stupid French. Actually, it kinda was. They didn't think it would have been possible for the Germans to get their heavy equipment and tanks and whatnot around the Maginot Line (since the road through Belgium whch the Gemrans actually took was in rought shape; heavily wooded and such) so they were surprised, somewhat, when they realized the Germans were already in their country without having to deal with the Maginot line. And if I'm not mistaken, the Germans even kept troops facing the Maginot Line the whole time other troops walked around it, so the French would expect it even less. IDRM: You make an interesting point about serial killers (and I did know who Fish was, actually) but the thing is, in that case, they've all actually committed evil deeds. You originally asked: To which I said he was, because he's actually DONE evil things. With the serial killers, they ALL did evil things, but some things could be seen as more evil then others. The hypothetical guy who WOULD kill millions, but can't, can't really be THAT evil because he hasn't actually killed anyone. Hypothetically. So no, I don't think that evil should be based on sheer numbers, but at the same time, the desire to do evil things doesn't make one evil; performing evil deeds makes one evil. I didn't mean to make it seem that all I was concerned about were sheer numbers; just that even if one thinks about doing evil things, that, alone, doesn't make them evil. Oh, and I'm aware of that; I just found it was easier to word my response if I used criminal. Also, was Ishii the guy they traded with? I seem to recall hearing about a Japanese fellow who traded the data he collected from human experimentation tests with the Allies, in return for not being tried as a war criminal. Was that him, or am I imagining things? Also, on the other genocides, like the Native Americans: I may be kinda crazy, but I don't consider that AS BAD as the Holocaust. Hitler wanted to kill all the Jews because he didn't like Jews. While I won't deny that a lot of early American settlers probably didn't like Native Americans either, they were killed mostly because other people wanted their land/gold (although you might be able to argue that many of them were killed mostly by accident; I've heard that upwards of 80% of the Native Americans died due to diseases that came with the Europeans). To me, killing someone because you want their land/gold isn't AS BAD as killing someone because you don't like them. I mean, I'm not trying to say that it's ok; it's still wrong and evil, but I, personally, don't consider it AS wrong/evil. Like, did Hitler actually stand to gain anything by killing all the Jews? Well, okay, I suppose that would've made more room on the planet, but I doubt he himself was thinking about that at the time. He just wanted them dead.

Wait a second. In the books, isn't Saruman acting essentially on his own, because he wants to claim the Ring for himself? I thought I had heard that...but I've never read them, so I'm not sure.

Yes, every regular person can do evil things. But exactly how many regular people SLAUGHTERED SIX MILLION PEOPLE? The fact that everyone is capable of evil is NOT justification for this. The fact that he thought he was right is NOT justification for this. You can't just say "well, everyone else does little evil things, so this guys HUGE EVIL THING doesn't really matter", because it does. Yeah, he may have done nice things for the German people. But SO WHAT? If he hadn't, he never would have been able to gain and keep his power. Being nice to ONE nation doesn't excuse trying to murder innocent people in EVERY nation. More evil. Duh. Also, I read the first line of that site and gave up. JESUS WAS JEWISH.

Yeah. And? I don't see why that's a problem. It's not really a crime to WANT to do something; it's only a crime once you physically do something in order to make that something happen. Which is to say that Johnny Neo-Nazi may want to kill even more Jews then Hitler did, but he can't, and won't. Thus, he's not as evil, because he hasn't killed (or at least, ordered to be killed) millions and millions of people. I think a large part of evil IS in the act itself; I see how the desire can be a large part, but I don't think that WANTING to do something makes you half as evil as the guy who went out and did it. I'd say that's highly debatable. Granted, history IS written by the victors, and had Hitler won WWII, I don't think he would have been seen as "evil" in the history books. But then again, it's quite possible that, even had Hitler won, people would have advanced to the point that they realized that killing races upon races of people (which he probably would have done, if given the chance; he didn't just hate Jews) is wrong, plain and simple, and he would have been deemed evil; assuming, of course, that one was allowed to say that Hitler was evil without getting shot. I mean, if he had won and all, I'd think the world would be a lot more facist. but it's really really hard to argue on maybe's and if's, so I'll state that his loss had an effect on how he is viewed in history, but not so much as to completely reverse what might-have-been, assuming that freedom of speech existed after he "won". Did that make sense?

So wait.... He rear-ended someone and smashed up the FRONT of his car...then said that his car was broadsided in a parking lot? Wouldn't broadsiding imply that his car was essentially T-Boned? Or am I on crack?

I think they just flat-out replaced the Richard Simmons bit with "He locked the door! I'll show him! *buzzzzzzz*", as opposed to just cutting it down for TV. Which episode is Seymour Skinner's Badass Song? The name doesn't help me at all on this one.

Didn't Turner himself buy the rights a while ago? Hence why it's on TNT/TBS non-stop? I really like the movie, but I can't imagine watching ANY film over and over again.

I've been meaning to post this topic for a while, but LotC's new sig just made me think of it while I was posting other stuff, so here we go. I want to know: Who here watches the show, and whereabouts do you live? I'm curious because I want to know how popular this show is in other places. I mean, it's popular where I live, but it's also filmed where I live, so whatever. So if you're out there (and I know you are), tell me.

Yeah. I mean, that's just so out of place on a wrestling message board.