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I know fantasy talk is discouraged in these threads (not that I'm complaining), but this really needs to be noted: Jim Sorgi was on the "not hot" list of fantasy QBs on Yahoo.

There's a Race shoot review in the archives, and he says that he has a picture of the slam in his gym, and he actually has Andre up over his head, not just a scoop slam.

Hopefully I can hang on and gain a small measure of revenge for my championship defeat last year.

Udrih signed with Sacramento yesterday.

Show some respect, Cena's Writer. Classless? This long, whiny rant from an indignant Boston fan should totally change your outlook on New England's alleged "classlessness." http://www.boston.com/sports/nesn/wilbur/s...d_several_more/

Ric Flair's had some classic battles with IRS in the past.

Arizona @ Tampa Bay (3.5) Carolina @ Tennessee (4.5) (1.5) Cincinnati @ Buffalo Denver @ Detroit (3.5) Green Bay @ Kansas City (2.5) Jacksonville @ New Orleans (3.5) (OK, I lied a couple weeks ago.) (7.5) San Diego @ Minnesota San Francisco @ Atlanta (3.5) (3.5) Washington @ N.Y. Jets Seattle @ Cleveland (1.5) Houston @ Oakland (3.5) (5.5) New England @ Indianapolis (3.5) Dallas @ Philadelphia Baltimore @ Pittsburgh (9.5) KC - 17

The Kevin Martin deal is what's ruining all these extension talks. This was even mentioned on one of the sites, that Andre Igoudala's camp wasn't going to accept a deal for less than what Martin was making. I would assume that's part of the thinking with Deng and Gordon, as well. Nothing against Martin, but I think those three are worth whatever money he makes. Josh Smith, as well.

I work in the frozen foods department of a grocery store, so as you might imagine I've sampled a lot of the stuff. I've been cutting back on the stuff as of late, but I've always been a fan of the Pizza Rolls, as well as the Tyson chicken bites, either the honey battered, or the buffalo flavored that recently came out. The sausage cheeseburger-type sandwiches are always good, as well. As far as Lean Cusine-type meals go, you can't go wrong with Swedish meatballs. If you're dieting, I might recommend the Gorton's grilled fish filets. They're pretty awesome.

Add Andre Igoudala to the list of notable players that didn't get an extension.

Pacers win a nail-biter against the Wizards, 119-110 in overtime, despite being without Jermaine O'Neal and Troy Murphy. Jamaal Tinsley was brilliant, 20/9/8 with only 1 turnover, and looked as happy as I've ever seen him out there. Solid showings from all parties involved. Arenas and Jamison made a lot of big plays for the Wizards, including the three at the buzzer by Arenas that sent it to OT. I do have to say I'm a bit concerned with how Jermaine will hold up with this faster tempo, given his many lingering injuries.

[color="#FF1493"][b]Je t'adore, Je t'adore...[/color][/b] [i]Girls, Girls, Girls[/i] plays, as pink strobes and smoke fill the entryway, and Felix Strutter walks out to the boos of the crowd. COLE Heartland title on the line, Felix Strutter getting the rematch! Let's go to Michael Buffer! BUFFER [i]The following contest is scheduled for one fall, and it is for the OAOAST Heartland championship! Making his way to the ring, from San Jose, California, weighing in at 218 pounds..."AFTER HOURS" FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFELIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX SSSSSSSSSSSSTRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRUTTERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRR!!!!![/i] COLE Felix, of course, losing the Heartland title at Zero Hour in the Heartland Invitational Chamber of Hell III, when Sandman9000 made his shocking return! And another shocking return made six days ago by Deon Black, as he and Felix ambushed the Heartland champion! COACH And Felix told me this morning over breakfast, it's now "The Malibu Mammoth", Deon Black! COLE Over breakfast, huh? COACH Oh, you missed out, Cole! That San Jose scrilla really fills you up, if you know what I mean! Strutter rolls into the ring, and poses on the buckles, then talks trash to some fans. Suddenly, the lights dim, then begin going crazy, as if a virus has infected them, randomly jerking around the arena, frantically changing colors and turning off and on. It’s as if a bad anime scene has come to life. Loud scratching fills the airwave, as if a DJ has lost their mind and is attempting to break their equipment. In-between the rips, legitimate music kicks on, of a Southern, heavy metal nature. I ask you please just give us/ Five Minutes Alone.” The lights continue to dart and flash as the music leaves and the scratching continues, only to come back again, now of a hip-hop nature. White America/ I could be one of your kids.” The rap fades out and the scratching continues, at an even greater pace, until music comes back, now of a hardcore variety. Final Prayer/ Final prayer for the human race.” The music leaves once again and the scratches reach their apex, before the sound cuts out and the arena goes pitch black. A single spotlight appears on the stage, the only light in the darkened arena. People look towards the light, but see nothing. Then People = Shit by Slipknot hits. HERE WE GO AGAIN MOTHERFUCKER! A figure punches through the curtains, wearing torn black jeans, a sleeveless black t-shirt, and two bandanas, one over his face and the other over his head. His hands are taped up, with a red "X" on the back of each of them. BUFFER His opponent, hailing from South of Heaven...weighing in at 220 pounds...he is the OAOAST Heartland champion...SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNDMMMMMMAAAAAAAAA AAAANNNNNN NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNE THHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSSSSSSSSSSANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNND!!!!! COLE Sandman9000, an OAOAST Original, and the Heartland champion! Sandman walks slowly to the ring, then climbs onto the apron, and into the ring. He rips the bandanas off, then Strutter attempts a big right, blocked by Sandman! COLE Here we go! *DING DING DING* Sandman fires off rights, and takes Strutter into the corner. He starts ramming his head into the turnbuckle! 1!!! 2!!! 3!!! 4!!! Strutter blocks on the fifth, and thumbs Sandman in the eye. Strutter then delivers some right hands in the corner, and whips Sandman across, but Sandman comes out with a clothesline! Strutter bails, but Sandman backs into the ropes and hits him with a baseball slide! COLE Sandman9000 in control early in this match for the Heartland title! Sandman stomps away on Strutter, then picks him up and rams him into the steps! COLE And Strutter goes face-first into the steel steps! Sandman then rams Strutter into the timekeepers' table. However, when he goes to pick Strutter up, Strutter brings the ring bell with him, and blasts Sandman over the head with it! COACH There you go, Felix! COLE Could be a turning point in the match, with Felix Strutter now in control! Strutter tosses Sandman into the ring, then grabs a chair from ringside. He rolls into the ring, and brings the chair down across the back of Sandman! COACH There, now Felix is getting into his groove! Strutter adds a second shot, then goes to the top with the chair in hand. COLE Felix setting up something big here... Felix comes off the top for a CHAIR-ASSISTED SPLASH...but Sandman puts his feet up, causing Felix to flip over onto his back! COLE Sandman able to get the feet up, and Felix Strutter in pain! Sandman grabs the chair as Strutter gets to his feet, then tosses it to Strutter, and dropkicks it back into his face! Strutter goes down, then rolls out of the ring, and Sandman follows, clotheslining him over the guardrail! COLE And we're out into the crowd here in Daytona Beach! Sandman delivers right hands to Strutter, as Strutter tries to make a getaway. Strutter eventually makes his way out to the aisleway, where Sandman clotheslines him back out of the crowd. COLE And now out into the aisleway, approaching the gravesite! Sandman tosses Strutter over the gate into the gravesite, then follows him, and the two exchange blows. Sandman gets the better of the exchange, but Strutter goes to the eyes, then executes a DDT! COLE And Sandman DDT'd right on the floor! COACH Right in the dirt! Sandman ends up laying on his back right in front of a headstone, and Strutter plays it up the crowd, which boos. COLE And Felix hoping that this will be symbolic of the end of this match, which perhaps will have him winning his third Heartland title! Strutter picks up Sandman, and sets him up for the THUNDER BAY THROTTLE~!!!!!11111...but Sandman counters by sending him back over the gate with a backdrop! Strutter reaches inside the gate and grabs a handful of dirt, and when Sandman picks him up, tosses it into his face! COLE Strutter with a handful of that gravesite dirt into the face of Sandman! The two work their way back to the ring, and Strutter attempts to whip Sandman into the steps, but Sandman reverses, and Strutter takes them back-first! COLE And Felix once again taking those steel steps! COACH This is not looking good right now, unfortunately! Sandman tosses Felix back into the ring, then goes under the apron and finds a barbed-wire bat! The crowd roars in anticipation. COACH Oh, no! COLE And it's only going to get worse from here! Sandman rolls into the ring, and slowly makes his way over to Strutter. Sandman raises the bat in the air, but Strutter hits a quick low blow! COACH Yes! COLE Strutter with a low blow, buying himself some time! Sandman drops the bat, and Strutter quickly grabs it, then rams the top of it into the head of Sandman! COLE And Sandman feels the barbed wire, right on top of the head! Sandman bleeds, as Strutter poses with the bat, to boos. Strutter then drops to the mat, delivering another shot across the lower back! COACH Things are looking up now, looking REAL good! Strutter then waits for Sandman to get to his feet, and takes a big swing, but Sandman ducks, and delivers a shot to the gut, followed by an EDGECRUSHER DDT~! COLE Sandman with the Edgecrusher DDT! Cover... 1... 2... Kickout! Sandman then gets to his feet, and grabs the bat. He waits for Strutter to get to his feet...and brings the bat down onto his forehead! COACH Oh no! COLE And now it's Strutter busted open after tasting the barbed wire! Sandman drops to his knees with the bat, and digs it into the wound. COLE And now digging the mat into the forehead of Felix Strutter! COACH Oh man, imagine how that feels, Cole! Sandman lays the bat in the middle of the ring, then whips Strutter into the ropes, and executes a drop toe hold, sending Strutter right into the bat! COLE Look at that move! Cover... 1... 2... NO! Shoulder up! Strutter bails out of the ring, and Sandman follows. Sandman delivers a big right, knocking Strutter to the floor, then executes BOOT SCRAPES~! as Strutter lays on the floor. Sandman then starts picking apart the announce table. COACH Oh, now what? Sandman finishes his work on the table, then drags Strutter onto it, and sets up a suplex. COLE He's going to suplex Felix on the table! Strutter blocks, then blocks a second time, then hits a low blow! Strutter then hooks Sandman...and delivers the THUNDER BAY THROTTLE THROUGH THE ANNOUNCERS' TABLE~!!!!!11111 COACH YESSSS!!! COLE Strutter with the Thunder Bay Throttle through our table! COACH That is IT! The crowd chants. HO-LY SHIT~! HO-LY SHIT~! HO-LY SHIT~! HO-LY SHIT~! The two men lay on the table remains for several seconds, then Strutter gets to his feet slowly. He rolls Sandman back into the ring, and covers... 1... 2... NO! Shoulder up! COLE But Sandman still has a lot left! Strutter stomps away on Sandman in the corner, then brings him out and executes a snap suplex! Cover... 1... 2... Kickout! Strutter then grabs the bat, and jams it into Sandman's forehead in the mat! Cover... 1... 2... Shoulder up! Strutter grabs the chair, and slams it into the back of Sandman, knocking him through the ropes to the floor! Strutter then poses with the chair, drawing boos. COLE Felix Strutter well in control of this match! COACH Yeah, but you can't give this guy time to rest, either! Strutter goes to the outside, and picks Sandman up, and grabs him in a side headlock. He charges for the ringpost, but Sandman shoves him off into it! COLE And a nice counter by Sandman, sending Felix into the post! Sandman follows with a clothesline, then rolls Strutter back into the ring. He goes under the apron, and finds a LADDER~! COLE Uh-oh... Sandman rolls inside with the ladder, and jams it into the midsection of Strutter, then lifts it up and brings it down across his back! Sandman then turns Strutter over and positions him, before going to the top rope with the ladder. COLE Sandman could be looking for a moonsault here with that ladder! Sandman gets to the top and picks up the ladder, then balances himself, and goes for a LADDERSAULT~!...but Strutter rolls out of the way! However, Sandman lands with the ladder first, and uses it to push himself over to his feet. When he does this, Strutter swings the chair, hitting the ladder back into Sandman's face! COACH YES! COLE What a sequence, and now both men are out of it! The crowd starts some respectful applause, then Strutter waves to the back, and Deon Black stalks out to the ring! COLE Oh my God... COACH Ohh baby! Here we go! COLE No disqualifications in these matches, as that MONSTER makes his way to the ring! Black climbs over the top rope, and grabs Sandman by the throat. COACH And look, the referee's not going to argue with this guy! COLE Look at that, one hand! Black picks Sandman up, and lifts him overhead in a PRESS SLAM~! COLE Look at this! Sandman must be 10 feet in the air! Black brings him down hard! Black then picks him up again, at the behest of the bloodied Strutter, and delivers a CHOKESLAM~! Strutter backs him off, then covers... 1... 2... NO!!! Sandman gets a shoulder up! COACH Come on, ref! COLE Sandman's not done yet! Strutter motions for Black to finish him off, so Black sets up the BLUE MOUNTAIN BOMB~!!!!!11111...but Sandman blocks with right hands, then counters into a DDT in mid-air! COLE And Sandman fighting back! Black's response is simply to feel his face and get right to his feet, as Sandman floors Strutter with a YAKUZA KICK~! Cover... 1... 2... ...Black tries to drive an elbow, but Sandman moves, and he drops it on Strutter instead! COACH Oh NO! COLE A big 520-pound elbow dropped inadvertently onto Felix Strutter! Black remains on all fours checking on Strutter, and Sandman hits him with a seated dropkick! This has little effect on the big man, so he runs to the ropes and does it again! Black gets to his feet and walks into a corner, and Sandman grabs the ladder and jams it into his midsection, before dragging Strutter into a corner and setting him in a seated position. He then grabs the chair, and climbs to the top over Black. COLE Oh my... Sandman gets to the top, then steps to Black's shoulders, and delivers a VAN TERMINATOR~!!! COLE What a move by Sandman, here's the cover! 1... 2... 3!!! *DING DING DING* COACH Damn it! COLE Sandman9000 retains his title! BUFFER [i]The winner of the match...and STILL OAOAST Heartland champion...SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNDMMMMMMAAAAAAAAA AAAANNNNNN NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNE THHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSSSSSSSSSSANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNND!!!!![/i] COLE A gruesome battle, the champion had to fight off not only the former champion Felix Strutter, but also the gigantic Deon Black, to retain his title, but he did just that! Sandman walks back down the aisle, as Black stares at him while checking on Strutter. COACH He was so close...Felix was so close! I thought he was going to get it back...:( COLE It didn't happen for him on this night, as Sandman9000 overcomes the odds, and is STILL the Heartland champion!

Well, I still don't see anyone in the East beating San Antonio, Phoenix, or Dallas, and Utah is as good as any of those teams as well. It wouldn't be as big of a discrepancy as it has been over the past several years, but I think the East would still have to be considered the weaker conference based on that.

...OK, they just said it was *P.J.* Brown going to the Kings, not Kwame. Um, what? P.J. isn't even on the Bulls anymore!

Last trade scenario just parlayed by Ric Bucher on ESPN. He said it was in discussions, but was not going to happen. Kobe to Chicago Ben Gordon and Kwame Brown to Sacramento Ron Artest and Ben Wallace to the Lakers

Yeah, there's about four or five local joints here, plus Papa John's and Domino's, that I'd go to before choosing Pizza Hut. I don't think I've had Little Caesar's since they went to their new $5 campaign.

I must have missed the Burger King thing you guys are referencing. Someone care to elaborate?

I was just reading HoopsHype, and found a couple interesting tidbits. Well, the first one is more amusing than anything. DeSagana Diop said that he was stopped on the street by a Cavs fan, who said that if the Cavs still had him they would have beat the Spurs. A writer for the Altanta Journal-Constitution said that he overheard a discussion on the visiting bench during a preseason game, regarding the fact that Josh Smith wasn't getting an extension from the Hawks. a "star point guard" was quoted as saying “They’re not going to sign Josh Smith to an extension. That’s crazy. I wish I had him. With all the shit he can do, he’d be an All-Star if he played with me. I hope they’re crazy enough to let him go. I’ll take him right now.” Going through the Hawks' preseason opponents, that definitely sounds like Gilbert Arenas.

How the hell can you lose a championship wrestling belt? I mean, I can see it with Warrior, because it's Warrior, but wtf.

Was this mentioned at all during the game last night?

Sasha Pavlovic came to terms with the Cavs today on a 3-year deal. The amount was not revealed. This reminds me, I assume Bynum's not getting an extension from the Lakers? There was no formal announcement ever made on this, and I think you have to work one out by the time the season starts. Andris Biedrins didn't get one, either, and he'll be a restricted free agent this summer.

Hey guys, I heard that Kobe Bryant might get traded. They mentioned this on TNT a few times last night. Did anyone else hear this?

Ok, I got this from "basketballbeat.com". It was the first such list I could find. This is their list of top 40 players 1. Tyler Hansbrough 6’9 230 Jr PF North Carolina - This Heel star has a high motor and is a strong post presence. 2. Derrick Rose 6’4 200 Fr PG Memphis - This Memphis star is an exceptional scorer and passer. He is capable of a Carmelo Anthony like impact for the Tigers and lead them to the Title Game like Carmelo did with Syracuse. 3.Chris Lofton 6’2 220 Sr SG Tennessee - This Vol is a great outside shooter who can create his own shot. 4.OJ Mayo 6’5 210 Fr PG/SG USC - Mayo is a triple threat player who can shoot, pass and defend well. 5. Roy Hibbert 7’2 278 Sr C Georgetown - Roy is an exceptional defender and rebounded with nice post moves. 6. Darren Collison 6’1 170 Jr PG UCLA - Darren is a great passer and excels in the open floor. Collison is also lightning quick. 7. Eric Gordon 6’4 200 Fr SG Indiana - Eric is a great scorer who can score from anywhere on the floor. 8 Chase Budinger 6’7 190 So SF Arizona - Chase is an athletic wing player with range from the 3pt line. 9. Brandon Rush 6’6 210 Jr SG Kansas - Rush is a big time wing player who can score from all places on the court. 10. Kevin Love 6’10 260 Fr PF UCLA - Kevin a big man who runs the floor and also rebounds very well. He can score from the block. 11.Michael Beasley 6’9 235 Fr SF Kansas St - Michael is a versatile player with tremendous leaping ability. 12. Tywon Lawson 5’11 175 So PG North Carolina - Tyson is a fast point guard with the ability to create for himself and teammates. 13.Hasheem Thabeet 7’3 265 So C Connecticut - Hasheem is a defensive presence with a ton of upside. 14. Drew Neitzel 6’0 180 Sr PG Michigan St - Drew is a great floor general. He is a pass first point guard. 15. DJ Augustin 5’11 175 So PG Texas - DJ is an excellent shooter with range, he is also a great passer. 16. Kosta Koufos 7’1 245 Fr C Ohio St - Kosta is a strong rebounded with range on his shot to the 3pt line and beyond. 17. Brook Lopez 7’0 240 So PF Stanford - Brook is a defensive presence with nice upside. 18. Robin Lopez 7’0 245 So C Stanford - Robin is a defensive presence who is a big time shot blocker. 19. Jerryd Bayless 6’3 193 Fr SG Arizona - Jerryd is an aggressive scorer who is very versatile. 20. Darrell Arthur 6’9 215 So PF Kansas - Darrell is an athletic rebounder and scorer for the Jayhawks. 21. Joseph Jones 6’9 250 Sr PF Texas A&M - Joseph is a strong rebounder and post presence for the Aggies. 22. DeAndre Jordan 7’0 240 Fr C Texas A&M - Jordan is a long defensive stopper with the ability to block shots. 23. Scotty Reynolds 6-0 170 So PG Villanova - Scotty is a big time scorer with a great 3pt shot. 24. Dominic James 5’11 175 Jr Pg Marquette - Dominic likes to create and is always in attack mode. 25. Bryce Taylor 6’4 205 Sr SG Oregon - Bryce is a good 3pt shooter and is also defends very well. 26. Ryan Anderson 6’10 235 So PF California - Ryan is a skilled post player and is good with his back to the basket. 27. DJ White 6’8 242 Sr PF Indiana - DJ has a tremendous face up game and is also a nice defensive presence. 28. Jamont Gordon 6’3 225 Jr SG Mississippi St - He's a nice left handed scorer who has a good mid-range game. 29. Kyle Weaver 6’5 201 SG Washington St - Kyle is very versatile and has tremendous upside. 30. Mario Chalmers 6’1 195 Jr PG Kansas - Mario has great court vision and an accurate shot from long range. 31. Taj Gibson 6’9 223 So PF USC - Taj is a strong rebounder and is capable of a double double every night. 32. Ronald Steele 6’3 185 Sr PG Alabama - Ronald is a good ball hander and excels in the open floor. 33. Nick Calathes 6’6 185 Fr SG Florida - Nick has a good basketball IQ and is very unselfish. 34. Sean Singletary 6’5 Sr PG Virginia - Sean is an excellent floor general who excels with his passing and scoring. 35. Marcelus Kemp 6’5 210 Sr SF Nevada - This Wolfpack star can do everything: he can defend, shoot, pass and post up. 36. Joey Dorsey 6’9 260 Sr PF Memphis - Joey is a strong rebounded and presence on the block. 37. Greivis Vasquez 6-5 195 So Pg Maryland - Greivis is a good passer and also leads the floor very well. 38. Bill Walker 6’6 220 So SF Kansas St - Bill is an athletic player with an amazing leap. 39. Kyle Singler 6’8 200 Fr SF Duke - Kyle is good perimeter player with the skills to post you up and shoot over you. 40. Stephen Curry 6’0 180 So SG Davidson - Stephen is a smart player with a high basketball IQ and a great 3pt shot.

I have no idea, honestly. I don't really follow college until the tourney. I guess Hibbert?