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  1. haVoc

    The best botches.

    Taka landing on his face after being thrown out of the 2000 Royal Rumble.
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    Scripted Promos

    Plus, to cut down on politics and shoot style promos. Some wrestler begins to get too over with their own stuff and others get paranoid and jealous. Including the actual writing team who feel like their the puppeteers and the wrestlers are their puppets and toys. They need to show their power. Or, X wrestlers cuts a promo on Y wrestler and X takes it a little too far then Y throws a fit and runs to Vince.
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    The best botches.

    XFL
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    New School Question Thread

    This is the first time I checked this thread out and my head hurts after reading that stuff with Jericho. I had no idea he had that many problems with people when he first entered the WWF. To continue on, what lead to Eddie getting fired in 2001? Was there a certain incident with his drug/alcohol use which lead to his release?
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    Benoit and WrestleMania

    You really think Vince cares enough about us, 5% of his fan base, to come up with such an evil plan? And take a chance with Chris Benoit, who isn't any proven draw, at WMXX and pull off such an evil plan to fuck with us at one of his biggest PPVs in history?
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    Ozzy seriously injured

    ~BUMP~ I just got done watching the Osbournes from last night and they showed previews for next week with the accident. It shows Ozzy riding the ATV then laid out on the ground with his manager/assistant guy over him. Now, I could be wrong, but I could swear when this first happen I read a report saying MTV cameras weren't there because they already wrapped the new season so it was never caught on film. So if next weeks show is one big reenactment for a cheap rating then MTV, Sharron and Ozzy himself deserve a big fuck you. Or, if this film is legit then it's pathetic they would allow MTV to continue filming. I don't want to see Ozzy looking worst then normal laid up in a hospital with Kelly allowing MTV to film her annoying ass crying all the while saying some stupid comments.
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    Wrestlemania Start Time?

    Damn, we're all going to have bloodshot eyes from watching 6 hours of TV after Heat and Wrestlemania are over. I'll be pie eyed after that many drinks.
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    Smackdown spoilers

    Smackdown spoilers from Fresno by Dan Schilling I'd also say that the vast majority of the attendees were of Hispanic origin. This was definitely the best place to do Eddie's big celebration, and it made for a great atmosphere. The crowd was hot all night, popping huge for any mention of Eddie, and breaking out into "Eddie" chants throughout the night. We were treated to 2 or 3 really good video packages detailing the history of WrestleMania, one accompanied by Foo Fighters' "Times Like These" and one to POD's "Boom". The third one was the one we've all been seeing lately (the one that ends with Vince turning to camera and saying "Where it all begins...again"). Big pop for Mania. The folks in attendance tonight all seemed to be buzzing about the show. Good sign. Dark Match: Orlando Jordan vs. A-Train: Say what you will about the Train, he IS over. As long as he doesn't shave that back of his, he'll get a reaction. Jordan won with a roll-up if I remember correctly. Velocity: Rey and Kidman vs. Jamie Noble and Nunzio: This was your typical "new age" cruiserweight match (i.e., "slowed down to a snail's pace with restholds a plenty"). Rey and Kidman won when Rey hit the West Coast Pop on Noble. The crowd was hot for this match (as they were for ALMOST all of them). Rhyno vs. Shannon Moore: Shannon might as well retire. No one gives a damn about him. Why he didn't get to join Matt Hardy on RAW, I'll never know. Of course Shannon STILL wouldn't get any TV time, but at least he'd have a gimmick. Shannon was actually booed for the majority of the match. Rhyno won with the Gore. Paul London vs. Sakoda: Even worse than Shannon is Paul London. Has this guy ever been on SmackDown? Nobody even knew who he was. The match died a horrible death. Sakoda won, but how I don't remember again. There was one highlight, and that was London attempting and missing a 360 splash from the top rope. It woke the building up for a split second. Scotty and Rikishi vs. The FBI (Johnny The Bull and Chuck Palumbo): Scotty and Rikishi were quite over. Their shtick has a surprisingly long shelf life. It's mystifying how many smart fans complain about these guys too. The vast majority of fans love them. Rikishi got the duke with the Banzai Drop. The crowd was fairly peeved that they didn't dance though. Scotty offered a courtesy wave as a replacement. No one bought it. SmackDown!: Show starts with a great video package for Eddie's title win and celebration. First huge pop of the night was for the package. Heyman comes on saying Brock will not be in the building because he's "too dangerous" to have around after losing his belt. He also announces that Eddie will be defending his title against Chavo, and a special referee will be on hand. Pyro, music, SmackDown! on UPN. Angle enters and proceeds to cut the corniest promo of the night, showing a palpable lack of sincerity when congratulating Eddie on winning. Cena interrupts, basically calling Angle a dork and sucking up to Eddie and the Fresno crowd. Things get heated, but Heyman shows up again on the Titantron, deciding to put Angle and Cena in a tag match with the Bashams. Angle and Cena vs. The Basham Brothers: The Bashams were, of course, without Shaniqua. Angle and Cena teased dissention throughout the match. Cean played face in peril, Angle makes the hot tag, cleans house, hits the Angle Slam, and locks in the Ankle Lock. The hold is broken, with Angle getting pushed into his corner. Cena makes a blind tag, jumps in, and hits the F-U, and getting the 1-2-3. Rey Mysterio enters Paul Heyman's office. Heyman says he's sure Rey wants to complain about getting screwed on Sunday. Rey quickly retorts, saying that what he really wants is to lobby for a rematch. Paul makes a deal with Rey, that if Chavo can beat Eddie for the WWE title, then Rey can have his rematch, for both the Cruiserweight and WWE titles, but Rey is not allowed to interfere or he'll face the wrath of the special referee. Billy Gunn vs. Tajiri: Billy Gunn is totally worthless. I thought I'd mention that. Tajiri won with the Kick after interference from Akio and Sakoda. The APA, Scotty, and Rikishi share a beer, and get to talking about the tag titles. The APA ostensibly challenges them for the belts, but are interrupted by The World's Greatest Tag Team, who also stake a claim to the titles based on their win at No Way Out. The APA though, tosses TWGTT out of their "office". Eddie comes out to a HUGE face pop. To accentuate the moment, we get red, white, and green confetti and balloons, and some really impressive (even for WWE) fireworks. Eddie talks about how "we" won the title, how his win was for everyone who people said wasn't "tall enough or handsome enough" to make it. Chavo comes out and cuts his typical promo, about how he should have gotten the ballons and fireworks because he won the Cruiserweight belt at NWO. He blames Eddie for stealing his spotlight. Naturally, he vows to win the title later on tonight. This segment is awesome. If for nothing else, watch the show for this segment. It's a classic wrestling moment. Confetti is cleaned up and time wasted. Big Show vs. Hardcore Holly: Holly, being Mr. Tough Guy, jumped Big Show from behind to start the match. Naturally, this was a slow, plodding affair that Show won handily with the Chokeslam. Show, BTW, was quite the attraction for the crowd, getting one of the better "non-racially motivated" reactions of the evening. Cena came out again, and challenged Show for the U.S. title at WrestleMania. Show accepted after Cena insinuated that Show would be a coward is he didn't accept. Show said he had "more guts than brains", to which an especially smart-assed fan said "But Show, you have more guts than anyone." Chavo Sr. is shown laid out, with Angle standing over him. Heyman rushes in, trying to make sense of everything. Angle says he's tired of all of the attacks, and that it was probably Eddie who was the perp. More confetti clean-up and a video about the Playboy shoot and an ad for "Divas Undressed" the DVD. Josh Matthews announces Brock is in the building. Brock then, comes out, after a trailer for Walking Tall. Big time heat for Lesnar, pulled out the old "Bobby Heenan Joke Book" and insinuated that Eddie had probably pawned the title as "that's what all Mexicans do, right?" There was a very uneasy feeling in the air after that one. Lesnar says he's depressed, that he deserves the belt because he's a good guy, an NCAA Champion, and an "American citizen". Then the topic switches to Goldberg. Lesnar gets on his knees and begs Vince to give him a match with Goldberg at WrestleMania. I don't know if making Lesnar out to look like a pansy is the smartest idea for a supposed "monster heel", but damned if he wasn't the most over heel in the building tonight. Heyman approaches Angle, and appoints him special ref for the main event. Angle protests, saying he's not a referee. Eddie vs. Chavo: Chavo comes out sans Sr. and Eddie comes out in a low-rider. The hydrolics got a bigger pop than Billy Gunn. Sr. waddled out late in the match, but was taken out by Rey who ran down on Eddie's behalf. Eddie hits the Frog Splash, and of course, finally, Angle turns, not counting the fall (He must have learned from his business with Brock during the summer, that if you're going to be a special referee, YOU should be the one doing the screwing). Angle worked Eddie over good, hitting the Angle Slam. Eddie bladed. This was pretty much a one-man version of the beatdown from Monday. Angle walked up the ramp and stared back at the ring, which I would assume is where the show ends. Angle then comes back, starts working Eddie over again, but Eddie makes his comeback and his the Frog Splash. He celebrates and leaves under his own power. Angle gets up, as the crowd boos him mercilessly. Angle says "I don't suck. I won an Olympic Gold Medal." He puts over the match at Ma! nia big time and punctuates the night by saying Fresno can "kiss his ass". Overall, the show was really solid. Wrestling wise, there's nothing to get excited about. Eddie/Chavo was the only real match of interest. The show was really based primarily on getting Eddie over (as if they had to try in this town) and pushing WrestleMania. Biggest Pops: 1. Eddie 2. Rey 3. Cena 4. Angle Biggest Heat: 1. Lesnar 2. Angle after the turn 3. Big Show 4. Heyman --Dave Schilling Credit: Observer
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    GNR Fans Pissed

    I'm looking more forward to Velvet Revolver. Because the BAND who plays the MUSIC is on that album. I'm sure it won't be the same as old GNR w/ crackhead up front, but I'll take my chances with them. And if the real GNR ever did get back together it still wouldn't be the same. The new music would more then likely never match the old. They would end up like Aerosmith and Metallica, where their music can't touch the old, but their still huge draws live and GNR could do the same.
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    Dudley Boyz

    Can't blame everything on creative. Some characters just run their course. Years ago Dudleys would have been one of those teams that could jump to multiple territories to stay fresh and hot. Those days are long gone, though.
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    News on Tommy Dreamer

    My favorite part of all that was Raven going after Stevie Richards. I just started watching ECW around that time and that cracked me up.
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    Dudley Boyz

    Dudleys need a make over. Something they've never done before. Something to give them that badass edge again. Hell if I know what that something is, though.
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    The Ballshot

    Don't forget Piper's handful of Goldust at WM12.
  14. Kid Kash wouldn't have a chance to get over. That asshole would bury himself.
  15. This surprised me on WWE.com.
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    The Widows Peak....

    Where did the Pedigree come from? Did Triple H "invent" it? Was it an old move that was forgotten about or did he lift it from Japan or Mexico?
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    The Widows Peak....

    Sexist! Really, that move must be hard to pull off. You would need someone strong to pull that finisher off on guys over 230 pounds. Actually, someone strong and safe. I'd be scared shitless if I was told Batista was going to do that to me.
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    Comparisons to 1996-1998

    Those four aren't pushed now? Cena's an upper mid-carder. Benoit is in an WMXX world title feud. Eddie IS WWE Champion and Brock speaks for himself.
  19. I been hearing Smackdown say their title will be the main event.
  20. There is absolutely no hiding from this fact. As much as some of you may hate it, *Chris Benoit is not over enought to headline WrestleMania XX*. Who said that match will be the main event?
  21. Yeah, but as always, once the match got going Benoit won half of them over and HBK was getting booed.
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    The Ballshot

    One I always remember was when Austin was beating the piss out of Michael Cole and he was trying to kick Cole in the balls and Cole wouldn't spread his legs and Austin looked like he was getting pissed and just started laying into him.
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    Few WWE Notes

    WWE management was very happy with how the Eddie Guerrero/Brock Lesnar match came off at No Way Out last night. [PWInsider.com] Brock was said to be OK backstage following his match at No Way Out last night, despite being bloodied up a bit. [PWInsider.com] The Shaniqua gimmick appears to be finished. Linda Miles will be going back down to OVW soon. [WrestlingObserver.com] Credit: 411
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    Few WWE Notes

    Good Riddance. I can't stand her. I hated her on TE and I hate her character now. Plus, always hearing little things about her backstage doesn't make me hate her any less.
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