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I liked this episode but I think it was the most boring to date. I wish they get Seth with Summer and get it over with. It's just hard to believe the hot girl who was always out of Seth's league wants him now and he turns her down. Ryan and Marrisa are getting more dull by the week. Seems like they planted the seed with the new guy in the office who will come between Ryan and Marrisa in season two. Sandy and Kirsten continue to own all and Kirsten gets hotter by the week. She's starting to pass Summer for me.

Man, Britney isn't going anywhere for a while. Her music may not always sell in the millions, but she's sticking around. Hell, there is a whole other story for Britney to tell. With all the rumors of partying, drinking, doing coke, etc,. she still needs to end up in rehab. And you know that will be a media storm. Then she returns "clean" and will be protrayed as older, wiser, more mature women who made mistakes, fell, hit rock bottom and now lives up to her mistakes and beat her demons. Britney Spears then makes a "come back" and preaches to kids not to do drugs and to look at Miss or Mrs (depending on how times she's been married at this point) Spears as a role model.

Brock Lesnar and Sable were recently connected romantically by a newspaper. The truth seems to be that the two are very good friends and do hang out together. Brock, however, is living with a woman who he has a 1 year old child with. - Some are surprised that Matt Hardy and Lita are not "inseperable" backstage as some thought they would be. - Zach Gowen is not injured. He is not being used because WWE is simply not scripting him into the shows. - Kidman is ready to return after taking a few weeks off. - Spike Dudley is set to return after resting his bruised back. - Billy Gunn is slated to return in December. Credit: Pro-Wrestling Torch Newsletter/411

Kurt Angle's character has become so stale and boring it's kind of refreshing having him off the shows. This way maybe I'll begin to miss him and be excited when he finally returns to action, but at the moment I don't really care. Brock is doing great as champion. Some fresh faces like Benoit and Cena are near the top of the card. Hosses are being kept away from the top. Not just Angle, but other stale characters like Vince, Steph and Taker are off the shows at the moment. Angle being away for a few weeks/months may be a blessing for Smackdown.

Wasn't Liz part of the Horsemen for a while?

I'm going to get banned for this, but maybe they should team Gunn with Kanyon or Gunn and O'Haire. Give those guys something to do. I would say O'Haire and Kanyon but WWE is too lazy to build them as a team, or hates both guys. Gunn is already known among the marks and is "best" when he's in a tag team anyway. Gunn with either of those guys would get over and put on better matches then the Bashams or APA.

I'd rather see him make a surprised return and attack Cena. Have him say he's sick of seeing guys like Cena, Benoit and Holly steal his spot against Brock and lets get Angle back to being a heel where he belongs.

Leave HBK alone! He's been selling his suppose injuried back and working us over for years. Poor guy is probably tired of selling it!

I wouldn't look too much in the Lesnar/Big Show comment. I think that was just a sloppy mistake and Brock just talking to make a point. Speaking of sloppy mistakes, Nathan Jones last week in the rumble started to punch Big Show from behind and BS turned to him and you could tell he said something and then Jones had that goofy look on his face where he tries to be mean but looks like he's ready to crack up laughing. I could imagine Big Show saying "You fuckin fool! I'm on your team!"

Well, most retail stores around here make you watch those "new employee" video's before you even get on the floor. Comes with the paper work. The sexual harassment tape usually covers this stuff because all it takes is the girl, or guy, to say they were sexually harassed on the job to get the law suits flying. Relationship or not. Which is why most stores look down on employee relations.

All I'm going to say is, I saw a preview of the show for tonight and Summer drops a jacket and is wearing something red, small and sexy under it for Seth. Hmmmmm, Hmmmmmm, Good!

Don't say anything unless you have to. I been in that position myself. I was a supervisor at a "Grossmans Bargain Outlet" and I dated one of the cashiers for two months and had a drunken one night stand with another at a friends house after the first Lewis/Hollyfield fight and nothing ever came from it. These things usually just play out. Stop watching those new employee "sexual harassment" video's and getting yourself paranoid.

Damn, I thought this was another Paris Hilton thread.

As long as the don't go to commercial during the match and cut out 5 minutes of it.

I don't know what you're talking about, because I don't watch UPN except for Smackdown. Unless that's what you're talking about? I don't want to turn this into this big racist thing. I always liked the Fresh Prince. Just saying they made white folks lower then the black characters.

Like this is something new. This has been happening in wrestling for 100 years. Americans get their ass' kicked in Japan. Americans get murdered in Mexico. America makes fun of everyone else.

Jay Bower. For making me discover this board in one of his columns.

I think it's pretty funny that all the people in the "spike tv video game awards" thread are still believing their going to get real matches. Boy, are they going to be pissed! I wasn't going to watch the show anyway so I could careless.

I think that was played out during the Fresh Prince. They always made white people come off stupid and goofy. If a white cast did that with black people Hell would break loose.

If you think he's boring then fine, but he's being booked great as a heel champion. He's the number one traget on Smackdown. Benoit and Cena are both gunning for him and fighting each other for the shot. Holly sucks, but there is another person gunning for the champion. Whenever Angle returns he'll probably be gunning for Brock and on top of all of this, Brock has a stable of hencemen around him. That's a mighty fine heel champion.

SHARON OSBOURNE CHEATED ON OZZY WITH RANDY RHOADS! http://www.imdb.com/PeopleNews/#3 Wild rocker Ozzy Osbourne's marriage nearly collapsed in the early 1980s - after wife Sharon Osbourne cheated on him with his band's guitarist Randy Rhoads. The shocking revelation was made public by Sharon in the family's new tome Ordinary People, which charts their incredible lives through the eyes of all members of the Osbourne clan - including children Aimee, Kelly and Jack. And Sharon, 51, admits that the subject of her infidelity with Rhoads - who died in a plane crash in 1982 - is off limits as far as her husband is concerned, because he finds the incident too painful to deal with. Sharon writes, "When I talk about the early days of the love affair between Ozzy and me, I have to be honest - it wasn't just the two of us. Randy was a vital part of the tale. When Ozzy and I weren't speaking we turned to Randy, and when we were on loving terms he was there too. On the road we often ended up in the back of the tour bus together, watching TV and dozing off without thinking anything of it. Not that we were having sex with each other. There was one time I was with Randy. Ozzy knows about it but has never wanted to discuss it. That's his way of dealing with it. But don't read any dissatisfaction into it. Ozzy knows the one-time occurrence was loving, not lustful. And he was just as in love with Randy as I was. He still cries when talking about Randy. So do I." On top of all this, Ozzy admitted that he was sexually abused as a child the other day. This is from Blabbermouth.net: Ozzy Osbourne has said in a newspaper interview that he was sexually abused as a child. The former BLACK SABBATH frontman said the abuse took place when he was a schoolboy in Birmingham. "I was sexually abused as a kid," Osbourne, 54, said in an interview splashed across three pages of Monday's (Dec. 1) Daily Mirror. "Two boys used to wait for me to come home after school. "They felt me and touched me. It became a regular thing on the way home from school — it seemed to go on forever. "I was afraid to tell my father or mother and it completely fucked me up. He said he needed counselling later in life to come to terms with it. "When I was a kid, people didn't talk about these things like they do now," Ozzy said. "You didn't have chat shows talking about molestation. It used to be the 'Woodentops' and 'Bill and Ben'. "I worked it out with a therapist. But if you have a traumatic experience when you are young it does fuck you up. "[Wife/manager] Sharon knows all about it and it was only with her that I could finally relax and be myself." Credit: Metal-Sludge.com

So me seeing Big Show, Jones, Morgan and A-Train around the champ all the time was just an hallucination? Righto. They been in the mid-card since Survivor Series. The shows have been built around Brock, Cena and Benoit. Which is nice for a change.

Yeah, you could hear a pin drop when Foley was out there.

How is this a Raw spoiler?

I'm excited for Smackdown! Unfortunately, the next day on this board will be terrible because everyone has high hopes for this match, just like the Iron Man, and will rip the match apart. "Brock didn't sell the arm." "This match is overrated." "Benoit couldn't carry Brock." "WWE screwed up by not putting the title on Benoit when the crowd was behind him." So in advance, let me just say.... shut up and enjoy the match!