MrRant

Don't you work for an insurance company?

My point is that... I wouldn't care whether homosexuals could or not. As long as I (and other non-religious people), don't have to go into a church... I'm happy. I'm not going to give that up just so that you can feel a false sense of equality because you can't have the same word as straight people. Why should I give up something and inconvience myself for you to feel better? Does that suck? Yeah. I personally would just call it marriages across the board but in reality it's all the same if it is a marriage for straights and a union for gays. Just quit while you are ahead (metaphor). Man that may not make sense, but it's 3:45am.

No. The point is I'm not willing to inconvience myself (or any other non religious person) by going to a church if we wanted the word marriage on a certificate if they decided to make everything civil unions like you say. If I have the choice of : a. Straight (non religious) people being able to get the word marriage on their certificate without having to go to a church like they are now with gay's having civil unions. or b. Gay and Straight people having civil unions and non religious people having to go to a church to get marriage on their certificate. I would choose A everytime.

Even more embarrasing then that, is you STILL haven't changed your act.

No it doesn't make any sense. I'm not religous so you are saying if I want to have marriage on my certificate instead of civil union, I should have to go to a church to do so? I'd rather go to the courthouse. Going by that logic... I'd rather keep them seperate then, since it would inconvience me by going against my belief that the word marriage isn't religious in nature. It's just a word but I want that word and I'm not willing to go to a church to get it so I guess you gays (and my sister) will just have to suffer. My it IS fun being a selfish ass!

So basically you are saying if you can't have the word marriage than nobody should get it eh? Who is selfish again?

This is a similar "struggle for equality" compared to other equality issues? That is a pretty strong comparision for a relatively minor thing.

You are a fucking moron.

Who is going to look down on you? The same people that already do. Why be concerned with what they think? The ones that don't look down on you now wouldn't all of a sudden start. Being "married" isn't going to make certain people like you. Besides the definition of marriage is union so it's the exact same thing.

No, the most important thing is to be EQUALS. Not "well, kind of the same, but with a different name". EQ-UAL-S. Again, if it was up to you, back during the days of the racism debates you'd be telling people that the "seperate but equal" policies of integration are A-OK and they have "misplaced priorities" for wanting FULL equality. -Xias But you are equal. There would be no benefit or tax form that you would be able to get . Face it. You are more concerned with one word than actually getting the benefits etc that most homosexuals claim they want. I would be more interested in making sure my partner was covered on my health insurance that whether I had a marriage or a civil union.

That is the exact attitude that will end up causing more problems than anything else. You are just lowering yourself to their level... why don't you try and be above them. The most important thing should be having all the rights and benefits of "marriage" to share with your partner. Not the word. You have misplaced priorities.

I like living in sin though. Depends on what testimonials you are looking for I would imagine. I'm just assuming what SP was trying to say. Never said I agreed with it.

Well we wouldn't be sinners if it wasn't for that bitch Eve.... And regarding SP's comment JOTW, I don't think he is talking about a re-education program of hate but of people finding Christ and him showing them the way and that way doesn't included being homosexual. Good for them if it makes them happy.

Yes... because Jeebus jumps out of the clouds and inspires normal non-violent people into putting the boots to gays. Violent people are violent people period. Why didn't I think of that? Edit : Made sense.

Racism has been around far longer than the bible and in areas where the bible had never reached until recent history. But again... nice reach. And yes, Christianity isn't the great cause of homophobia. Some people just don't like gays and think they are disgusting. It's part of life and something you will have to live with.

HI BX! HOW ARE YOU?

Not as big of a part as you would like it to be. Some people just find two men BUTT fucking each other disgusting.

You can't blame gay bashing entirley on religion, but if you had to ask a majority of the gay bashers what religion they consider themselves a part of, I wager most of them would say Christianity, whether or not they are devout followers (ahem). -Xias Just because they may be Christian how do you know they are beating up a gay based on their religious values? Nice reach there though.

Oh you can't blame gay bashing on religion by any means. Abortion clinics I'll give you 75-80%.

Apparently you haven't seen the stamps on the science books then.....

Butterscotch ice cream? They make that?

You forgot evolution and they still preach abstinence pretty hard.

I didn't say all Christians. You know of which I speak SP.

They will look down on you with whatever word you call it. To those people you are sinners who deserve to burn in hell if you can't be changed into being "right". Live with it.