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So was Steiner, but look at what has happened there. lol Im sure that wont happen with Sean though. ChUnK!

Health conscious then are you? lol ChUnK!

I prefer to think of it that way. Why time to move on? Thats my whole point. If YOU were in a wwe title match and you came *this* close to winning with a submission on the knee, would you change your game plan and move to the shoulder, or would you try and work on the knee a little more, before hitting the knee based submission a final time? Yeah, of course. But he didn't. Thats why I originally said that this was close to a ***** (infact I gave it ****), but because of the minor imperfections (that I feel matter) I wouldnt give it the full 5 stars. ChUnK!

Corey is probably refering to CZW and ROH as "other US indy feds". And thats fair enough as they are the two biggest indy promotions next to XPW. How many wrestlers can you name that currently work for XPW AND ROH/CZW? Therefore, if you wrestle for XPW, the chances of you wrestling for one of the other major indy promotions is slim. Add to that the fact that Fleisch, Storm and Williams are from the UK, and where starting to break into CZW and ROH. It is highly unlikely that other small time promotions will have the money to fly these three guys over to the states, and so there careers in ROH and CZW could suffer. ChUnK!

Boxing is diferent though. By working the body, you can get the guy to lower his guard and through the knock out punch. By working the knee of Angle, his shoulder and neck doesnt become any more or less exposed than it was to start. True, he may be thinking about his knee, and hence be more likely get hit with a full on corss face. But he was just back from injury, so the knee had to be on his mind anyway. People have made good points, and Ive come to the conclusion that the difference here is the Injury. If Benoit had wrestled that match without Angle having the exisiting knee injury, then the switch between body parts wouldnt have bothered me. I guess its just a personal thing that I think it would have been better to stay on the knee, that was allready weakend. Lets not nick pick over it any more, its a ****+ in anyones book. ChUnK!

How do you use the HTML button the the "add reply" screen then? What is that for? ChUnK!

Ok, thats a fair point. I would just have to say then that Im more a fan of the Hart strategy. It just makes more sense to me that you should pick a startegy and stick with it. Otherwise, your opponent could, and by the time you have worked his back and neck and leg etc, you could have had your leg broken, or been forced to submit by 30 minutes of constant abuse to your arm. Perhaps its just more of a personal thing. Applying it to Benoit/Angle RR 03, Benoit could have reinjured the knee of angle if had stuck with it, way quicker than Angle had the chance to severly damage the fresh ankle of Benoit. True, but this just proves my point. The early leg work and the sharpshooter lead to a near submition. So it makes no sense for Benoit to abandon that strategy and go to work on the neck and arm in preparation for the crossface. Perhas im just splitting hair, and if I can understand the storyline that Benoit realises that he cant make Angle tap by work on the knee, so he switches to something he has used to success before, and is more familair with (the crossface). Had it not been for the knee injury, then I would buy into this, but the injury just make the differnce for me. As I say, perhaps Im reading into it too much. I guess theres many ways of interpreting a match. Thats the kind of response that I expected. But Im pleasently supprised that some people have a simialr view to me, and dont hold this match as close to a ***** as I thought they would. As far as WWE matches higher that ****1/2 go, then yes there are probably two matches I would give more than that. I dont pretend to have half the knowledge that some of the guys on this forum do, and I am only recently learning to understand wrestling from the Smark point of you. Therefore, I have seen few matches that I have been able to rate fairly. I have seen a great deal of stuff from a Marks point of you and I am re-watching old classics. Anyway, Ive strayed from the point. I would give Savage/Steamboat ****3/4 from wrestlmania 3. I know that thats a ***** classic in many peoples eyes. But I knock the 1/4 off simply because I can not grasp the hype that went into the match. I wasnt watching wrestling for the years before that built to this match, so I cant give it *****. Purely because it would be arrogant of me to pretend that I can comprehend the hype and build behind it. I would also give Rock/Hogan *****. Not because of the wrestling, but simply because a match like that could never happen again. ChUnK!

Ok, thanks. I didnt think it was. ChUnK!

A triple post, and none of the links work. lol I prefer AM's though, go with his. ChUnK!

AM: Thats awesome. 7/10. No offence Rando, you can't win 'em all. ChUnK!

Right, I see. Was the '88 rumble ever released on commercial tape, or does it just exist from people taping it off tv? ChUnK!

www.smarktalk.com is good, Styles Clash writes good stuff on there as well. Get BOTB2, you gotta see Fleisch/Storm. ChUnK!

Both guys being from right here in England, and a part of the FWA! "Av it!" ChUnK!

How can you see the banner anyway? When your head is that far up your own arse! Just joking lol ... serioulsy... dont kill me! ChUnK!

I have the first ever rumble on PAL video tape. I thought it was from 1989 though. Im sure rumbles happened before 1989, but I thought that 1989 was the first ever broadcast one. Let me know if your interested in PAL 1989 rumble. ChUnK!

Whats the capactity there? ChUnK!

Sweet, I'm not sure if my post gave you the idea of checking your ISP, but im glad you sorted out your problem. 70mb is pretty generous of them aswell. ChUnK!

Not unless your VCR supports NTSC format. Check it out, if your VCR is quite new, you might be pleasently supprised to find it is NTSC compatible. It sometimes has it printed on the front of the machine, if not then look on the internet, or in the manual (if you still have it). ChUnK!

I have seen the pcitures on mondo after the weed wacker, and thats whats put me off watching the tape. Thanks for not spoiling it for me, but I cant say that this tape is at the top of my "to watch" pile. I cant see what the interest in it is, it goes beyond wrestling. Sandman, you call your self a bloodmark, and im not criticising you at all for that, im just wondering what it is that you enjoy about ultraviolence. I cant honestly see why anyone would pick it over a wrestling match? I'm having a hard time seein what the appeal is. I wont criticise it, until ive seen it though. ChUnK!

I figured it would be held by ECW, but I had no idea that the drew tha many. I was thinking about 3,000 tops. 6,000 is pretty impressive, how long did they keep that sort of attendence going for? ChUnK!

Doesn't your ISP give you free webspace? I get free webspace, but I guess thats the least they can do for not makind ADSL available in my area. Also, we have to pay £20 a month I think. That might be more than you have to pay in other countries. ChUnK!

Sorry ... that just craked me up! ChUnK!

I still havent see TOD. I got it as part of a bundle of tapes, but havent been able to psych my self up to watching it. Just how bad is it? Using a scale of 1-10, with WWF hardcore being 2 and ECW hardcore being 5. I should watch it, because I cant comment untill ive seen it, but I really dont see the appeal. ChUnK!

True. But theres a difference between moving on and turning your back on people. ChUnK!

How much are ringside ROH tickets then? FWA charge £35 for a special ringside package (you usually get the show t shirt for free). ChUnK!