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So, we'd have three-four people left for each show then, huh? If you rotate their time off, you'll always have enough healthy bodies. And hey, you might even be forced to push the Spanys of the world. That is what you all want isn't it?! Which Is Why I suggest the Cycle Rotation plan. Hell, just keep it Smackdown and Raw as it is. One week it's all Smackdown (two tv shows and two house shows) Then it's all Raw (same pattern) Reduce PPV's to 8 instead of 12 (get rid of No Way Out, Vengence, No Mercy and Backlash) which means Rumble (Jan), Mania (March), Judgement Day (May), Bad Blood (June), Slam (August), Unforgiven (Sept), Series (Nov) and Armagededdon (Dec)... I would support that. Any type of attempt to help things. Combined with regular steroids and drug tests, and less seriou emphasis on bodies over talent would go a long way. If that doesn't help, then a commision needs to regulate it.

So, we'd have three-four people left for each show then, huh? If you rotate their time off, you'll always have enough healthy bodies. And hey, you might even be forced to push the Spanys of the world. That is what you all want isn't it?!

Angle should have been forced to sit out and rehab, he could have been killed, and who knows what risidual pain pill addiction he has suffered as a result (he admitted himself that they were the only thing getting him through).

I love how everyone ignores what I say and Im forced to be redudant. This is why you need an independent commission or even *gasp* Vince himself (he is the boss, right?) that does NOT ALLOW them to work through their injuries.

Hell, look at the two guys the entire Raw brand is based around..arguably their top star. Triple H only really got his "god push" after he came back roided out. Before that, he was a fairly small guy. He gets by on look alone. Granted, you can't keep a look like that without working out, but there's no denying he's taken steroids. Both Chris Benoit and Eddy Guerrero, while great workers already, came into the WWE obviously bigger than they were in WCW. Why? Because the WWE has shown they won't push a guy unless he's got a particular "look". Preferably large, tall, and generic. The smaller guys get dumped down to the bottom of the card, or just used as jobbers to put the so-called "chosen" over. It's more a of a "have-to" than a "choose to" with steroids and the WWE. It means the difference between the ammount of push and money one gets, and when faced with that, these guys will hit the steroids quicker than anything. Look at the current crop of guys they're choosing to push, and tell me I'm wrong. You're dead right. This is a problem is it not? Should not Vince realize what is happening as a result and set an example (like a literal example, that is NOT how a 60 year old man should look...)

They already have that. Example: Pillman went around that, and used his heart condition to overprescribe drugs from different places. They only work through minor injuries. When neck, leg and back problems arise, Vince gives them the appropriate time to recover. Like Angle working with a broken neck? Or Lesnar working with broken ribs? Or HHH working with his entire lower anatomy ripped to shreds?

Well, Im sure that makes Spanky and Paul London feel much better....

BINGO. Why are they all fucked up on booze and drugs to begin with? There should be zero tolerance, not just when they're already on death's door. And I notice you all are completely ignoring the "s" word. But that's ok, Vince does too... S word?? Sorry, I'm lost. Choken, whoever suggested that?? STEROIDS

It's a well known fact that in WCW, Scott Steiner was always notified in advance for the random drug testing dates and in some cases was written off shows because of this. Drug Trusting dates are the worst kept secrect in ANY SPORT on any level. In High School, We were notified days in advance for our drug testings... See, corruption starts at the top. If they really want to help them, Vince can't pull stuff like that (I KNOW IT WAS WCW), or as I said leave it to an independent commision.

Look, you haven't exactly proposed any ideas.

How do you prevent wrestlers from using painkillers? That's usually 90% of where the addictions start. You control and keep records of every doctor they visit and *gasp* maybe even set up medical coverage like every other damn profession. You give them adequate time off to recover. This is where the independent board or commision comes in. None of this, working through injuries before Im 100% bullshit. You're hurt? You take your prescribed medicine, do your exercizes and rest and do not return until an independent medical authority clears you too. Then you won't have to rely on overdoses of pain pills to work though pain.

How about an anonymous survey? Asking them to explain why they take the drugs and the steroids. What pressures they feel. Do they need more time off? Are they depressed? Is it peer pressure. Something needs to be done. You all are taking a passive perspective, of, oh well theres nothing that can be done. This is not a Vince blame game, its brainstorming what can be done to try to prevent more and more wrestlers from dying...

BINGO. Why are they all fucked up on booze and drugs to begin with? There should be zero tolerance, not just when they're already on death's door. And I notice you all are completely ignoring the "s" word. But that's ok, Vince does too...

That'd work too. It's more realistic than an actual off-season. Sure, they know they're going to take some hits..but this way they'd still get the advertising money, which is the most important thing. Overexposure is one of their biggest problems, but a complete shutdown for two months wouldn't work. Or a Cycle plan. Rotate certain wrestlers...Have three groups (equally divided) and for the fall "season" alternate...giving wrestlers full week breaks. I mentioned that! I said, that RAW and Smackdown could rotate!

Benoit is likely on steroids. When he ends up with an "enlarged heart" in 5 to 10 years I'd like to hear your opinion then...

Look, let me clarify. I don't think Mcmahon is an "evil dictator" but I think he ignores the problem as it starts and only reacts before it's too late. He should be more strict in terms of the alcohol and recreational drug policy BEFORE they have to be sent to rehab. And he obviously has ZERO policy against steroids which has beena big contributer in wrestling deaths (granted, likely not this one).

although every severe case in the recent years, McMahon has offered paid rehab for this people... It's not like McMahon is a evil dicator here... Lockwood, likely had this problem before his tenure with McMahon (as evident from the stories about his drunken escapades) What about steroids that contributes to this "enlarged heart" nonsense or cocaine?

That'd work too.

Bulldog Eddy Jeff Regal all got multiple chances... But how did they get into that position to begin with? Why not? They could be hands off in terms of match bookings and outcomes but could monitor health, etc.

Bulldog Eddy Jeff Regal all got multiple chances... But how did they get into that position to begin with?

How about if wrestling was regulated by an independent athletic commision? Like boxing or MMA, "real" contact sports that have much less of a death rate?

Fine. It's not feasible...what do you all suggest be done? That is, if you even think there's a serious problem here, because if you don't then there's no point arguing, and we might as well pre-RIP with a bunch of random names after it for the next few months...

Last I checked, he was losing money on all that already. Look, I hate arguing online. I guess there's no point anyway, since it's just going to go on and on and on. I guess instead of recognizing that there's a serious problem and brainstorming solutions I should join in with the "oh, how sad! what a shock! RIP!" crap because Vince couldn't give Shane's PPV bonus to allow Spike Dudley proper time to heal. Let's see Shane become the next wrestling death...I bet that would change things...

There are THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS of ex-baseball players. Track them all, bro. Let's see the ratio. Not only that, but comparing professional wrestling to baseball in terms of pain is fucking ridiculous. THATS WHY THEY NEED MORE TIME OFF TO REST! ...if you do't get WHY there's no off-season already, there's no worth trying to convince you. If you think small promotions can survive a vacation, open one up. See what happens. Your entire fanbase goes away just because there's SOMETHING ELSE to pique their interest. Hate to tell you this, but wrestling fans have SHORT attention spans. I know, I know, it's mind-blowing. Im talking about WWE. They should be the standard bearer.

If Vince has enough money to pay himself and his children obscene pay per view bonuses, he has enough to cover his workers for a vacation.