Your Paragon of Virtue

I'd become an American Citizen just so I could say that I voted for that man.

Granola? I've never heard that used as way of describing music. You make it sound like an insult, but I likes me some granola.

I think after such a serious injury, Mir didn't want to jump right in with a guy like Arlovski. They're probably gonna build him up by having him tear through some lower tier guys until he is ready for a shot at Arlovski, then they can build that up really well by talking about how he's the real champ and how he never should have been stripped of his title. It makes for a good storyline.

Chalk me up to the group that's surprised that Americans don't have a fries supreme, or maybe they do and it just came out recently for them? Or you went to a bad store? I hope for their sake...

When it's all said and done, will these men enter the HOF?

It's amazing how biased some can be. A woman feels her son died for nothing and does something about it. THAT BITCH!

Hmm, I have to say that I agree with the comments in the thread shown. Not really much better than the bare bones release, save for the deleted scenes and the "out of the office". Eh, me buying the other one doesn't seem so bad now.

The generalization thing was a joke, as I don't care about the movie. To add to that; I don't give a shit about this movie. Most who like Ebert's reviews won't either, neither will Ebert himself. So the need for an actual review that takes this movie seriously is pointless. If you like the movie, great. But don't complain about a critic panning it and not explaining why, especially when it's understood why he doesn't have to. Rob says the problem with critics is that they take things personally? Him taking out a full page ad and attacking a writer's credentials isn't taking things personally? Heh.

They're releasing an Office Space SE? I just bought the barebones one lol. What's gonna be on the special edition?

That one is coming out. My So Called Life, with Claire Danes. There are re runs on Family Channel, and I'm not afraid to say I've grown to love this show.

No, your logic is off, as it's very possible to see something in real life that's funnier than something in a movie. Also don't get the Paris reference, but maybe I'm missing something. He really didn't harp on the feud, just pointed out how pathetic Rob was in that he can make fun of others but when he gets criticized, he whines and takes out a full page ad bashing the critic. In an hilarious twist of irony, he messes up the bashing and falls on his face. I can't imagine anything in Deuce Bigelow being funnier than that. Look at it this way; his type of audience probably wouldn't want to see this movie, and they'd probably be more content to read a witty write up making fun of the movie than an honest review of the movie. Call it a generalization, but most people that would enjoy this movie probably wouldn't go to read anything a critic says. Hell, most of those people probably can't read.

Does the IPOD work on a rechargable battery? or do you keep having to buy a new one?

If Tanner won, that fight would have happened, but since Franklin and Hughes are good friends, it isn't going to. Not a big deal really, since they're in two different weight classes, but Matt was bored of dominating at 170 I'd imagine and tried to step up to fight Evan and win two belts, something never done before and something that he said he'd love to be the first to do. As a result, he won't be doing it now but might have the opportunity in the future. After this show, the big Hughes fight is with Karo Parisyan, who while deserves the fight through the fact that he's taken out a lot of contenders, should get slaughtered. I don't know who they'll match Franklin up with.

Doesn't Schall train Franklin? That would be pretty trippy, it's like the Team Quest situation in the first season, but if Leben was training Couture lol. I gotta like Jardine right now, an artsy nerd who knows how to beat the crap out of people, gotta love it.

That's more or less one of those "curse" things really, looking at it objectively, the WW will have a harder time. The HW's on here, the favourites anyway, might have a good shot with the guys in the UFC since a few are excellent wrestlers, and really those are rare in the UFC HW division. Except for Arlovski, and Sylvia because of his size, most of the guys in the UFC HW division are pretty easy to take down. Of course these are some big guys, so they might be able to make up for that size advantage. Following bios stolen from CBR, stolen from MMARingReport's Arnold Lim. I found them helpful: Rob Macdonald Rob fulfilled one his dreams in life by becoming a police officer and serving for the past 1 ½ years in his native Mississauga, Ontario. The only Canadian citizen on The Ultimate Fighter Season II, Rob was a nationally ranked wrestler at St. Charles College (high school) in Ontario and also excelled on the football and track teams. He graduated Western Ontario University with degrees in English and Psychology. The 26 year-old has been participating in MMA for three years and trains with Team Tomkins. His current professional MMA record is 3-0. The Toronto Raptors fan is inspired by his father and former railway engineer, Ranald, who passed away. His cousin, Miranda, stars on the cable series, “Degrassi Junior High: The New Class.” Keith Jardine Keith previously worked as a real life bounty-hunter for a bail bondsman in Canoga Park, California. The 29 year-old has a 9-1-1 professional MMA record and lives and trains in Albuquerque, New Mexico with among others, Season I middleweight champion, Diego Sanchez. Keith also was a professional boxer with a 3-0-1 record, and professional kickboxer with a 1-0 record. He was a two-sport star in high school, city champion in wrestling in the heavyweight class and All-City Football as linebacker. He attended Pierce College in Los Angeles before playing defensive line at New Mexico Highlands University. The foreign films buff is a big fan of the Coen Brothers. Kerry Schall The 33 year-old is the elder statesman for Season II of The Ultimate Fighter. The Kankakee, Illinois native was a football and wrestling star at Herscher High School outside of Chicago. After graduating from the University of Cincinnati with a degree in electrical engineering, he spent the next seven years out of the sports arena as a service engineer at a plastics company. One random night he was talked into competing in an MMA fight in Cincinnati and Kerry knocked out his opponent in 14 seconds. Kerry became hooked and began training to hone his natural MMA talents. Six years later this father of two has a 19-6 professional MMA record and trains with The Ultimate Fighter coach Rich Franklin and Season I participant, Josh Rafferty. Brad Imes The 6’7 Columbia, Mo. native has only been participating in MMA for the last nine months and already has a 3-0 professional record. Brad played offensive tackle for the University of Missouri and was a starter his senior year. He went on to play professionally for the Arena Football League’s Iowa Barnstormers. The former Strength Coach for the University of Missouri and Texas Christian University football teams, Brad is a loan officer in Sacramento. In his spare time he is an outdoorsman and enjoys hunting. Seth Petruzelli The Cape Coral, Florida native was a three-sport star in high school -- All-State centerfielder on the baseball team, All-State wrestler at 215lbs., and threw the shot put and discus on the track team. Seth is a graduate of The University of Central Florida with a degree in Psychology. He began studying karate at six years old and currently trains MMA at one of the legendary Gracie Jiu Jitsu schools in Orlando. His professional MMA record is 8-2, and when not training he works in his family’s real estate business. Mike The 3-time All-American wrestler grew up in Central Point, Oregon and gained collegiate fame on the mat while attending North Idaho Junior College, Southern Oregon University, and the University of Missouri. He graduated with a degree in Education. At Crater High School, Mike was a state champion wrestler in the 189lb division in 1999 and played defensive lineman in football. He has since moved to Iowa to train with the legendary MMA Team Miletich Fighting with The Ultimate Fighter coach Matt Hughes and Season I participant, Sam Hoger. Tom The 30 year-old from Cooperstown, New York was a four-time All-State wrestler in high school was third in the country in the 190lbs. division. Tom, an academic who enjoys classical music and reading Descartes, graduated Summa at SUNY Brockport in Human Psychology. He currently lives in Philadelphia where he works for Rail America. He is married and has four kids ranging from 1 ½ to 7 years old. He trains with Gracie protégé Julie Fernandez and has a professional MMA record of 4-0. Rashad Evans The two-time All-State wrestler at Wheatfield High School in Niagara Falls, New York was also a standout football player at running back and safety. He attended Michigan State and wrestled in the 174lb division. Rashad graduated with a degree in Psychology and currently works at a hospital in Lansing, Michigan, where he lives and trains. Eli The 26 year-old Yosemite, Ca native and Oakland Raiders’ fan played linebacker at Mariposa High School. He currently has a 1-0 professional MMA record and breeds American Bulldogs. WELTERWEIGHTS Jorge Gurgel Born and raised in Fortaleza, Brazil, Jorge moved to the U.S. eight years ago when he was 20 to pursue his career in mixed martial arts. The Brazilian jiu-jitsu expert is also quite the academic as he received a prestigious scholarship, awarded to only 50 of 14,000 applicants, to study in his native Brazil. After two years of study, he moved to the United States to attend Wright St. University to study international business. Currently living in suburban Cincinnati, Jorge runs seven gyms in the Midwest including ones in Columbus, Dayton, and his main gym in Middletown, OH. Jorge, who is fluent in Portuguese and Spanish, trains with The Ultimate Fighter coach Rich Franklin and The Ultimate Fighter Season I participant, Josh Rafferty. Joe Stevenson The Victorville, CA native and current resident was an all-state wrestler at Silverado, High School just outside of Los Angeles. The 23 year-old has been competing in mixed martial arts since he was 16 and has a current professional record of 24-6. He has held 5 MMA titles in various weight-classes ranging from 155 to 205. Currently a forklift operator, Joe has two kids, Joey (4 years old) and Tyler (2 years old), and lives with his girlfriend Maria who is a lawyer and female boxer. Anthoney The pride of Hawaii, Anthony is currently a federal corrections officer at a prison in Oahu. The 26 year-old is a member of the prison SWAT Team and is a self defense instructor for the other guards. Anthony was a state wrestling champion in the 198lbs weight class at Roosevelt High School in Honolulu and was among the state’s premier power-lifters. He has been participating in mixed martial arts for the past six years and has a current professional record of 3-0. Anthony attended Chaminade University and is a big fan of the hit series CSI (currently airing on CBS and Spike TV). Melvin The son of a Baptist Minister, Melvin grew up in suburban New Orleans and was a wrestling state champion in the 152lb class at Bonnabel High School in 2002. Voted Best athlete in his high school, Melvin was also a star football player, terrorizing opposing offenses as an outside linebacker. A graduate of Colby College in Kansas with a degree in Criminal Law, he currently works in the family contracting business. Melvin has a 36-2-3 professional MMA record and is inspired by his fiancé, Brittney. Josh Burkman Josh was a triple-threat athlete at Cottonwood High School in Salt Lake City making all-state in football (running back), baseball (third baseman), and wrestling (171 lb division). He went to play running back for Dixie State College. To pursue his dream of becoming a UFC champion, Josh moved to Oregon to train with Randy Couture and Team Qwest. He currently has a 14-2 record and dreams to one day open up his own MMA gym. MARCUS The former pro boxer is no stranger to television, as he fought on ESPN2’s Friday Night Fights while competing for 10 years and compiling a 10-1 record. The 32 year-old native of Bangor, Maine, proudly wears a kilt as a tribute to his Irish heritage. Marcus is a manager of multiple bars and taverns in Maine and is a twice-divorced father to three children. The self-described computer geek is a Star Wars aficionado and lists his favorite movie is the cult classic, “Boondock Saints.” SAMMY The Minneapolis, Minnesota native wrestled at Roosevelt High School and attended Denwoody Technical School. The 23 year-old trains in Bloomington for the past 7 years and has current MMA record of 16-5. He currently works as a landscaper and bouncer at a local Minneapolis bar. His favorite movies are “Gladiator” and “The Legend of Josey Wales.” KENNY A butcher by trade, the 23 year-old lives in Slidell, Louisiana with his wife and baby son, Kaden. Kenny was a two-sport star at Ware High School in suburban New Orleans in football (fullback, middle linebacker) and baseball (first baseman). He attended the University of Mississippi for one year and competed in the Kenpo Karate Nationals in 1999. Kenny is also friends with Houston Astros’ pitcher, Roy Oswalt. LUKE The 25 year-old Taoist is from New Hyde Park, Long Island and is a graduate of Chaminade High School. He graduated Nassau Community College with a degree in Biology. He currently has a 4-1 professional MMA record and trains with UFC contender Matt Serra. The Bruce Lee fan lists “Sin City” among his favorite movies. ULTIMATE FIGHTER COACHES RICH FRANKLIN The 30 year-old UFC MIDDLEWEIGHT CHAMPION has a 20-1 professional record including a stunning victory over UFC legend Ken Shamrock in April on Spike TV. Franklin is a former school teacher and is a native of Cincinnati, Ohio. MATT HUGHES The 31 year-old UFC WELTERWEIGHT CHAMPION has a 38-4 professional record. A native of Hillsboro Illinois, Hughes trains with the legendary Militech Fighting team in Quad Cities, Illinois. He was a two-time high school state wrestling champion and attended Easter Illinois University where he majored in Physical Education. Matt and his twin brother, Mark, own 1,000 acres of farmland in Iowa. His most recent fight was a dramatic victory over rival Frank Trigg in Las Vegas in March.

Matt Hughes (Welterweight champ) and Rich Franklin (middleweight champ) are the coaches. I don't know much about these guys either, but apparently Jardine, MacDonald (SAUGA!) are ones to look out for in the HW division, while Jurgel and Stevenson are ones to look out for in the WW division. I'm actually excited for Sammy Morgan, the only guy I know on the show as a fighter (I know of Burkman as the guy Jeremy Horn spit on) as a pretty good submission wrestler with some nice hands, so I'll be rooting for him. He's a solid dark horse.

My version of a ***** match would have to be Minotauro-Cro Cop, though there's a lot of personal bias in that rating. There always wil lbe though, for a ***** match since it has to involve the person emotionally, in my opinion anyway.

che pretty much explained the weirdness of that statement. I can't really think of what the best rap album would be, I'm a bigger fan of the nihilistic party style anthems though, ala all the shit Dre produced.. THe second half of Illmatic drags a little, and at 35 minutes or something that's not good. Biggie's first album is really good, but the beats on the chronic and doggystyle are just so slick, but dre is not a very good rapper, and I haven't listened to doggystyle in ages, so I give it to Biggie.

I'm also happy to say that I refrained from making numerous stupid liver jokes. If only he could do the same now.

Bas Rutten 1. Was he ever regarded as the greatest fighter in the world? Was he ever regarded as the top fighter at his weight class? Was he ever regarded as the greatest fighter in his respective organization? Well, a King Of Pancrase title and a UFC HW Title, which was actually one weight class above what he was used to, is impressive. Beat two solid heavyweights, (and I would say both were top ten at the time) in TK and Kevin Randleman, combined with beating Frank Shamrock, a top LHW/MW is more then impressive. So yes, easily, also was the greatest fighter in TWO organizations. Okay, this is an easy yes to all. 2. How many years did he have as a top fighter? 95-99 really, as he has stated that that was when he really started to learn the ground game, and that is apparent through the fact that he went undefeated in this time and retired shortly after. 3. Did his career decline or suffer over the years? No, quite the contrary, he improved very much in his grappling ability, mostly self taught, and never declined after that. 4. Was he known for being an exciting fighter? Definitely, had some great fights in Pancrase, as well as all of his UFC bouts. Notables are vs. Frank and vs. TK and Randleman. His fights with Funaki and Maurice Smith are also action packed. Of course, one could argue that the Pancrase fights were worked, althoguh Bas has steadily maintained that he was never involved in a work. You'd have to take his word, but since he's generally a straight shooter and that other fighters in the same period had admitted to being in works, I take his word. Combine that with the fact that it wouldn't make sense to work his fights, as he lost fights that he was supposed to lose, being a grappling noob, and won once that changed. 5. How many good fights or top quality fights has he been involved in? All of the ones previously mentioned. 6. How many memorable rivalries has he been involved? Other than one with Frank Shamrock, not really any. Funny ones with Kevin Randleman due to a dispute over that decision, and out of the ring with Rickson, but nothing really. He was king during the "dark days" of MMA. 7. What types of titles or tournaments has he won? UFC Heavyweight Title, King Of Pancrase. 8. Does the fighter’s win-loss record reflect a hall of fame caliber fighter? What was his record against top competition? His fights were against top calibre competition I would say, as he fought against the best wherever he went. Funaki and Shamrock were on top of Pancrase, and TK and Randleman were both serious heavyweight contenders in the UFC. 9. How did the fighter respond to losses? Perhaps better than anyone else, interesting story as he was learning the ground game from someone, and they showed him a specific defense to a leglock. Of course, he used this in his second fight with Ken and fell victim to one of the sicker leglocks I've seen, if only because of his scream. He went to hell with this, got a friend and began watching and picking up the ground game through self study, taking notes in sparring sessions and generally figuring out what worked. As a result, he never lost again, and even won many of his later fights by submission. 10. Was he innovative or influential? Did he make an impact on the evolution of fighting and fighting styles? Did his career lead to any rule changes? Again, not really popular due to his time, but he was one of the first successful hybrid fighters, combining a very good background of kickboxing with a catch wrestling type submission style. Was one of the first great strikers to enjoy great success in MMA, in fact I think he was the first, as no one else enjoyed success to the length that he did. 11. Did this fighter evolve? Did he incorporate different styles and techniques? Did those techniques result in wins? Again, yes. Was very successful with submissions in the latter part of his career, and evolved from being a one dimensional fighter with no ground game (A UFC I reject basically) to a dangerous striker who was more than competent on the ground. He won in a variety of ways, although obviously he loved the KO. 12. Did the fighter uphold the standard of sportsmanship? Don't remember him ever doing anything stupid, even after Randlemans camp threw a fit after that fight he didn't get involved, was always respectful to Ken after losing twice to him. Was very respectful even to Delucia, who acted like a douche to him despite losing multiple times. 13. Was he the most popular in his promotion? Did he ever anchor a promotion? Was he ever the star? This is one where I can't honestly say yes, for the UFC at least. Probably not for Pancrase either, though I don't know much about how the Japanese viewed him. I imagine they liked him, but not really a star. 14. Was he able to transcend the sport? Did he gain mainstream recognition? Has been on a few tv shows, movies, two of which he starred. He's a great ambassador thoguh, constantly making appearances and flying all over the world giving seminars. In that way he transcended the sport, but definitely not a mainstream star. He isn't done though, as his publicity is only adding up as he continues to pursue all these endeavours. Widely recognized as one of the better commentators, and his duo with Stephen Quadros is considered by many to be the best two man commentary team, in English at least. So I would say no to mainstream recognition, but due to all these other ventures, he is transcending the sport.

If you wanna see Oleg cut up in a box, Bad Boys II is one to watch.