Your Paragon of Virtue

Slayer would be the last band to come to my mind regarding this topic. That's still confusing me. I listen to some Christian music, and rarely is the idea of Jesus "beaten upon me". A lot of times, it can provide some subtle, clever lyrics here and there. Just break the stereotype.

I never said you could make good music without skill, I said technique, and yes, there is a difference. Skill is arranging the songs melodically, while technique is the speed you go at, and proficiency at which you play. A 'great' solo doesn't necessarily equate to great music. Generally speaking, a techinically sound band will never have good production, I don't know why but I noticed that. That's not to say that technique isn't important, but not as much as people as people would like to have you believe. It can add to a song, as in the case of someone like David Gilmour, or it can detract from it, as is the case from someone like, well, pick any 80s hair metal band. Although it doesn't always detract from the song, as sometimes the song wasn't very good to begin with. Most of those songs are just as power chord riddled as Linkin Park, except that they throw in a solo somewhere in there. Why do you think people think the Black Album is so fucking terrible? Metallica wasn't that great to begin with, and the Black Album only added another reason as to why to hate them. I don't know exact stats, but I'm sure that there are many songs that go at 60 BPM that are better than those at 1000 BPM. Jimi Hendrix wasn't a great guitarist because he went fast, it's because every note had meaning. I like Dream Theatre, but I can't say the same thing for Petrucci. A friend of mine burned a CD, and it was playing Van Halen. That's fine, but than it played the Police. One song was a lot slower, but guess which one is much greater? Crude example to be sure, but it stands. The Police will always be greater than Van Halen, Nirvana will always own Dream Theatre, and Radiohead will always, ALWAYS be better than Rush. I pulled some random bands together, but it all comes together in the end. So what's the lesson? Technique can help, but it's really unnecessary in the end.

I would have guessed that you wouldn't be the type to listen to Christian music, but I haven't even heard of a Christian metal band. Care to throw some names out? POD does *not* count. That's not really metal anyways...

Man, I get sick and tired of people not being able to actually DEFEND their music, and just point out that I "hate them because they're popular". Most people share this attitude until they actually, you know, LISTEN to something that you don't hear on the radio. Contrary to what most people in this thread have said, technique has very little to do with how good the music is. It's like workrate in wrestling; very easy to point out and admire, but you've really only scratched the surface. There's so much more to appreciate, right as soon as you go past being in awe of the Rock really running the ropes fast, or Eddie Van Halen going at like a bazillion miles an hour. I'm actually going to write an article trying to break all this stuff down, and post it up, but it should take me awhile. Hopefully it goes better than the last two did. With all that being said, I should point out that Linkin Park still sucks. The production values are standard glossed over crap, the lyrics are extrememly bland and boring, and to top it all off they have a bunch of crappy power chord riffs that haven't been done before by all those crappy nu metal bands, and better if you could believe that. When you're faux-nu metal, you know you suck.

I know, just saying. I got nothing...

I think the ones that get the best reactions are girls that are borderline, and I Would with EvilHomer's picture. I mean how hard is it to decide on this one: http://members.msn.com/?mpp=2260~4AAAAAJAA...&mid=2260&kpp=3 Here's a good one: http://members.msn.com/?mpp=2260~4AATAAAAA...&mid=2260&kpp=3 I think Flyboy wants to fuck that Dolphin fan, or at least that's the impression I got.

If you're gonna bump the thread, might as well bump it with a picture: http://personals.yahoo.com/display?ct_hft=...2929-032304&b=1

Dames is reading this thread, so I'm assuming both a banning and a closing of the thread is in order.

Phil Collins is pure shite, and I am still surprised as to how he can have so many fucking specials on VH1 and the like, declaring him just short of a musical genius.

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I thought Catholics only don't eat meat on Good Friday?

He's Australian right? Or is he British? I don't remember... I had just assumed that everyone ripped into him, because it was en vogue for music critics stateside in 2002, as nothing was easier.

Dave Dymond has an article on the main site? I didn't see it, unless it was posted long ago, and is now wiped off the main page..

"Critically-acclaimed debut, 'I Get Wet'" By who?

The hell? This totally came out of left field. When did it go from "out for a year" to "out forever"? Also, what's the difference between wrestling on Smackdown and wrestling at Wrestlemania?

I'd say the Velvet Underground and the Pixies are up there, but I'll let Pitchfork tell you how it is.... "On the scale of human accomplishments, turning out a classic album ought to rank up there with climbing Mount Everest. Stoned. With one leg. And no oxygen. Given the infinite potential for obnoxious excess within the Rock genre, it's no small feat to assemble an album that's so well phrased, so deftly stated, that its impact extends far beyond the realm of the audible. Turn out two or more such albums and you're headed for legendary status. Turn out five or six and you're R.E.M."

You have to be trusted by the people that you lie to, So that when they turn their backs on you, You'll get the chance to put the knife in.

What I meant was, those percentages were looked upon as an actual grade. They never gave anything but a percentage (Which is probably the best way to go about it), but if you were to have an average of 85, you would say you pretty much had an 'A' average. It makes the standards a little higher, as since there is more room to get an A, obtaining that 80% is a different story. On top of that, if you go to a school where you deserve a B and are given an 84 (like certain systems pointed out in this thread), you would be getting a higher mark for less intelligence, or something. Whatever, a PC is like a Replubican, or close to it. An outright Republican is the Canadian Alliance, with Stockwell Day. That guy was a loser.

71 is a D-??? That sounds fucked up, because from what I always understood an 80+ is A, 70-79 is B, 60-69 is C, a 50-59 is a D, and anything below is an F where you failed and you actually had to take the course again. I've never heard of getting a 70 and failing a course because of it. Anyways, I never tried in Grade nine and ten, and didn't really understand the "system". Now that I'm in grade 11, I think I could pull a 90 average. I'd like to echo Spiff's sentiments, and how you should show the paper to the prof. It's always worth a shot.

I already steal and lie and stuff, so the next step up would be killing I guess. I couldn't kill certain people, but I can always find a way to justify anything it is that I do..

Bleh.

*BUMP* for that guy who asked for it...

Basically what the topic says, and I'd like to hear what you guys thought of it. I'm listed as Wasfy Jones. So, ermm, yeah, go to the site now and read that shit, than come here and post some shit.

DMB is actually a far cry from what I normally listen to, I just suppose that I listen to a lot of different shit. *Puts on In Flames*

I believe my first post on this board was me asking how you felt about these guys. Now, while it's old, the review for Busted Stuff is up on ViewedAskew.com. Tell me what you think, and hopefully this will go over better than the Bowling For Columbine Review did. Even though I'm posting the review here, because some of you ARE that lazy, just visit the site anyway, who knows, you might like it... Dave Matthews Band – Busted Stuff Review To be honest, I never really got into The Dave Matthews Band, or Dave Matthews’ Band, whatever. I hated the fact that they picked the lamest name possible in the history of lame names for a rock band. I never understood their popularity with twenty-something, coffee house dwelling “whiter than white bread” folk that constantly make up the background of Friends. I was also glad to see other rock elitists trash them as well, even though he kind of looks like one. So in short, I hated DMB for the longest time. Until now that is. I picked up the album and paid all fees due to our good friends at Kazaa Incorporated, and was all ready to bring the HATE~! I instead found myself apologizing to my arrogant drumming bastard friend (Carter Beauford is REALLY good), and my punishment was him kicking the crap out of me in his basement to some Dream Theatre. By the way, is it me or all drummers really that hefty? I don't know, anyways I bring that up because these crazy kids only seem to like bands with good drummers. Can someone please tell me of a drummer they know who thinks highly of the Beatles? Or Wilco? Or Radiohead? It always seems as if they give more respect to Slipknot than the previous, only reason being Joey Jordison(sp? I don’t give a shit enough to actually check). He seems competent in a musical setting, I will give the enemies that. Too bad the other eight guys don’t. Oh right, the album. Well, suffice it to say, it’s damn good. It’s not as solo-driven as previous DMB (Yeah, I “Bought” some other stuff from their catalog too), but it’s not as poppy as “Everyday”. It’s in the middle. It’s not as big on the electirc guitars either, as it’s more acoustic-driven, meaning it still manages to foray into all kinds of stuff like R&B, jazz, and the occasional ‘folky’ stuff. When I tried to “buy” each track on Kazaa, I found lengths of each song to be about two minutes apart. I believe that this is because the Steve Lillywhite Sessions (Original recordings the album was based on) were trimmed down. For what I don’t really know. My guess would be that they dragged, and to be quite frank they did. On the new album everything seems much more comfortable, as weird as it sounds, and all the music fits into place rather than dragging on. Each musician excels at his instrument too. As previously mentioned, Carter Beauford really displays a great sense of syncopation on the drums, and you can tell that he learned everything he knows through a jazzier style. Lessard may not be Les Claypool, but he provides some nice bass lines here and there. After all, you don’t need to pop and slap to be great. Leroi Moore also does a great job, showcasing his classical training and jazz influence. I have even heard that he has helped Dave arrange most of the songs. That violin guy plays some cool shit too.The standout though is Dave’s “White guy with soul” vocals, as he carries every song. He has really good range, and “Grey Street” is probably my favourite track on the album for this reason. He really gets emotional, and the colourful instrumentals surrounding him are a nice compliment to his intense vocals on the track. I guess there is a reason for the name of the band. Individually, it’s easy to tell that these guys went pro with each of their respective instruments. One last thing; something that has nothing to do with the music but I enjoy is the fact that the band has three black guys in it, and their fans are diverse and mixed, contrary to the Friends comment I made earlier. I don’t know why, but that just seems to be really cool to me, aside from their actual music of course. So in conclusion, it’s okay to be a rock elitist AND like these guys. Although I should point out that I’m not much of a rock elitist, because I still enjoy some mainstream stuff and I don’t like most of the new retro rock stuff coming out, aside from the White Stripes. Anyways, all feedback is appreciated, whether or not you liked the review, or agreed with me, etc. I always love to discuss and like to hear differing opinions, as I feel there is much good music that I haven’t been exposed to, and I enjoy hearing of new bands that everyone else is into right now. So drop me a line. Star Rating: ***1/4(Never good at these, as it’s always relative and I’m being exposed to new stuff all the time. But if you didn’t feel like reading the column, lazy bastard, this one’s for you.) Anyways, take it easy...