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It WAS kind of creepy the way he ran his fingers through the belt at the end of that match. I still think, like I said before, that he put his son in a modified rear naked choke and may have chickenwinged one of his arms at the same time (kind of like Bob Backland's crossface chickenwing)

Wow, the damn guy actually used the Crossface on his own little boy to kill him. This case gets sicker by the hour. Benoit looks like more and more like a monster by the hour. Honestly, i'm not trying to be funny or anything, but I would not be surprised one bit if details come out that Benoit was wearing his wrestling gear when he was found dead.

I'll tell you this though.....The dude had a mean looking one handed chokeslam. It was painful looking. His helicoptor spinning powerbomb was pretty nasty too.

I've been in this thread since the beginning, and haven't seen it mentioned yet, so: Anyone notice that Chris Benoit had a rather large head himself. His frontal lobe was very big. anyone thinking that maybe he also suffered from Fragile X syndrome or a different form of mental illness and just hid it from everyone?

There's no longer an Ogrish. It's LiveLeak now and it's turned into more of a "Media" website. They do have ogrish type things one in a while like the Saddaam Hanging and stuff like that. I'm morbidly curious too to see the crime photos also to see how disturbing they are.

Those are some serious accusations that that fuckin clown Johnny Devil made. I hope Sullivan sues the shit out of him like someone said. It's funny how he's supposed to be a man of god and very religious, yet he accuses a man of triple homicide, tied to Satanism with absolutely no evidence. Talk about a fuckin hippocrite!

Yeah, it's the same company as Matthews and Holyfield. Also, the DA was saying that the steroids found in the house had a prescription, so they weren't illegal.

I hope not.......Chris doesn't deserve to be buried in the same place as them. He should be buried in a landfill under tons of garbage, because that's what he is. Sorry, I have so much distain for him right now.

Woooooooooooooooooooooooo! I used to love when he would say that, and he would just blurt it out out of left field, so it wouldn't make any sense. I remember her with Doom, and she was extremely hot in CWF with Kevin Sullivan as "The Fallen Angel". If you have wwe 24/7 on demand then check out the CWF stuff when they put some stuff up. She was gorgeous.

That's just speculation on another website because the investigator was saying that Benoit may have used a different choke move because there were no hand marks on Daniel's neck. I personally think he choked him out with a rear naked choke, where the forearm goes around the throat and squeezes.

That took alot of class on your part to make that statement. Good stuff buddy.

I don't think a damn thing is gonna change. Maybe more strict testing by Vince and co for the next few months, but that'll come to an end and everything will go back to the way it was before. I like the idea of an offseason though. Maybe a couple of months off during the winter or fall to let everyone recharge their batteries.

Soooooooooooooo, you're saying that killing your family and then proceeding to kill yourself instead of dealing with the consequences is NOT tapping out? Yeah, ok. You must come from Assbackwards Island.

Pwtorch is reporting that Benoit's son, Daniel, had Fragile X syndrome. (More often referred to as "mental retardation")

My point is that Kevin Sullivan isn't some awesome person.......let's not try to take Benoit being a psycho means he was a swell guy. Nancy had very poor taste in the types of men she was attracted to...she liked violent abusive types there's no other way to describe it. I don't anyone here is claiming that Sullivan is a swell guy, but he's also not the one that killed his wife and kid, so as bad as he is he'll never be AS bad as Benoit.

Yeah, i also wonder what Kevin Sullivan is thinking and feeling as well. Alot of people tried to paint Benoit as a saint, but he did plenty of stuff that contradicted that, like the fact that he stole his boss's wife for one...........the fact that the dude was on roids for so long..........The fact that he threatened Nancy before (even though most of us didn't know about the stuff from 2003). Like RedJEd, I always thought it was real foul what he did in WCW with Sullivan and Nancy and basically turning a storyline into real life. It always amazed me how the general consensus when Benoit and others left WCW when Sullivan took over as booker was "bravo!" when Sullivan, even though this guy fucking stole his wife from him, even, to show no ill will, gave him the title the first night he took over as booker. But yet Sullivan seemed to be the bad guy in that whole deal, and Benoit even got others to jump ship with him from a situation rooted in personal emotion regarding Nancy more than anything. Sure, WCW fucked the guy over, as well as guys like Saturn, Deano, etc, etc, but I honestly dont think Benoit would have bailed like that if it wasnt for that whole love triangle BS. Thats a pretty unstable and unprofessional move to make, especially when the movement was made to caudle to him when Sullivan took over the book, even though Chris really pulled a dick move. Ah but don't ever forget, Benoit was an IWC God and Icon, Kevin Sullivan was always a JTTS type, shoddy worker and brought upon the audience various Wrestlecrap gimmicks (and not just the DoD, the guy was "The Wizard" to Kevin Nash's Oz) BTW, and this should go in the Old School thread I know, but was Brian Pillman supposedly going to be the Horseman who was to "woo" Woman from him? They had that feud going, but then Pillman "shoots" with "I respect you, booker-man" and next thing you know he's "shooting" about SMMMMMAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRTTTTTTTT MMMMMMMMMMMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRKKKKKKKKKSSSSSSSSS in ECW before joining the WWF so the angle fell on Benoit? No, It was always Benoit that was supposed to woo Woman from Sullivan. Pillman feuded with Sullivan but was never booked in a love triangle with them. Ironically, he was in the middle of the Goldust and Marlena love triangle angle when he died, and MArlena was supposed to turn on Goldust and choose Pillman the night that he died.

I'm thinking that he used a simple rear naked choke on his son to kill him. It's used in MMA and it basically looks like a sleeper hold with the forearm around the boys throat.

Yeah, i also wonder what Kevin Sullivan is thinking and feeling as well. Alot of people tried to paint Benoit as a saint, but he did plenty of stuff that contradicted that, like the fact that he stole his boss's wife for one...........the fact that the dude was on roids for so long..........The fact that he threatened Nancy before (even though most of us didn't know about the stuff from 2003). Like RedJEd, I always thought it was real foul what he did in WCW with Sullivan and Nancy and basically turning a storyline into real life. Not to defend Chris here...but you don't think Woman had something to do with her leaving Kevin sullivan as well...They didnt exactly have a fairy tale relationship either I totally understand that, but the dude could have easily just backed off and had no part of it. Wrestlers are supposed to be brothers, like in a frat, and he should not have gotten involved with her. There are exceptions out there, like Edge and others i'm sure, but it doesn't make it any less wrong.

Yeah, i also wonder what Kevin Sullivan is thinking and feeling as well. Alot of people tried to paint Benoit as a saint, but he did plenty of stuff that contradicted that, like the fact that he stole his boss's wife for one...........the fact that the dude was on roids for so long..........The fact that he threatened Nancy before (even though most of us didn't know about the stuff from 2003). Like RedJEd, I always thought it was real foul what he did in WCW with Sullivan and Nancy and basically turning a storyline into real life.

The problem with that is that it wasn't Benoit's decision to make. You can't just play God, and then ask for forgiveness afterwards. I doubt that's why he did it anyway. Maybe he's just a sick, twisted, fuck who decided to kill everyone in the house one day. I'm tired of people trying to fuckin make Benoit look like he was doing this for the good of his family and there was a positive light in this. The asshole tied up his wife and beat her, and then he killed his son. Period.

I read page 1/30 and then started reading from here(page 50), can anyone explain what this is about? Benoit placed a bible next to the bodies of Nancy and Daniel

hey, maybe Chris Benoit takes religion literally. What do you think is better, this world, or heaven!??????? It's kinda hard to go to heaven when you MURDER your wife and kid.

I wonder what he was thinking when Nancy was begging for her life after he tied her up. I also wonder what he was thinking when he wrapped a bag around his own son's head on his bed and suffocated him. What's going through someone's head when they do these things?

I'll say it again........Those vignettes and that gimmick tweak he had a few years back where he had that sinister smile, and the laughing and screaming while loving to put people in pain seems very scary and close to the person he actually turned out to be. Do you think he could have gotten lost in that character, or were we seeing what he really was? alot of the time these wrestlers base their character off what they really are.

And when I was younger and a teen I always wanted to be a wrestler. Thank god I didn't follow that dream. Seems like nothing but hell, torture, depression, pain, and aguish involved. I'd rather just work in an office.