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Wade Keller on Bret-Vince screwjob Read this, it should provide some insight

More like lost his testicles. When did he ever have any testicles?

In the 'How the internet ruins wrestling' thread, bps "The Truth" 21 said: This prompted me to search through my collection of Power Slam's to find Vince's speach. When doing so i discovered this, a collection of classic TV quotes, which some of you may want to use in your sigs. Anyway, the point is for you to add to the list with your favourite wrestler TV quotes. *** "In case you're tempted to grab the remote and check out our competition, don’t bother. It’s two or three weeks old. Shawn Michaels beats the big guy with a superkick that wouldn’t earn a green belt at a YMCA. Stay right here. It’s live.” – Eric Bischoff reveals the result of the pre-taped Raw main event, Nitro, September 1995. "You people know who I am, but you don't know why I am here. When that Ken doll look-alike, that weatherman-wannabe (Eric Bischoff), gets out here, I've got a challenge for him, for Billionaire Ted, for the Nacho Man and for anyone else in WCW. You wan't a war? You've got one!" - Scott Hall gate-crashes Monday Nitro, May 1996. "(Scott Hall) said he would be bringing someone with him (this week). I'm here. You still don't have three guys (to face The Outsiders at Bash At The Beach). What, you couldn't get a paleontologist to get a couple of those old fossils cleared? You haven't got enough guys off a dialysis machine to get a team? The measuring stick just went up around here." - Kevin Nash joins Scott Hall, Monday Nitro, June 1996. "For two years, I've held my head high. I've done everything for charity, I've done everything for the kids. And for the reception I got here...you fans can stick it , brother!" - Hulk Hogan turns heel, Bash At The Beach, July 1996. "The most expensive piece of luggage in the WWF, right there." - Shawn Michaels tells the world that Sid has to be carried, In Your House XII, December 1996. "Bret, I've seen you on the road, jack, and you ain't no role model. You've seen some Sunny days." - Shawn Michaels alleges that 'The Hitman' has been playing away from home with Tamara 'Sunny' Stytch, Raw, June 1997. "What about that 18-stone slapper I saw you with last night, J.R.?" - Jerry Lawler, One Night Only, September 1997. "What's a slapper?" - J.R. (in response). "You weren't in on that?" - Bret Hart, post-Survivor Series footage from Wrestling With Shadows, November 1997. "I had no f***ing idea. With God as my f***ing witness, my hands are clean of this one. I swear to God." - Shawn Michaels (in response). "This is a conscious effort on our part to open the creative envelope, so to speak, to entertain you in a more contemporary way. We in the WWF think you, the audience, are, quite frankly, tired of having your intelligence insulted. We also think you're tired of the same old simplistic theory of 'good guys versus bad guys'. Therefore, we've embarked upon an innovative, contemporary campaign that is more invigorating and extemporaneous than before." - Vince McMahon delivers his 'New Direction' speech, Raw, December 1997. "What was once a captivating, trend-setting programme has deteriorated into a cliched - and let's be honest - boring snoozefest that is in dire need of a knight in shining armour. Let's go over the facts. Television ratings: downward spiral. Pay-Per-View buy rates: plummeting. Mainstream acceptance: nonexistent. Reactions of the live crowd: complete and utter silence (due to) the steady stream of uninteresting, untalented, mediocre sports entertainers." - Chris Jericho is about two-and-a-half years early on his evaluation, Raw, August 1999. "Look at these guys: they've got no charisma. These guys are terrible." - Konnan on Mark Jindrak and Sean O'Haire, New Blood Rising, August 2000.

I simply cannot navigate that site, can someone post a link please.

Sorry, should've made it clearer. The point was to add to the list with other memorable quotes from wrestlers.

"This is a conscious effort on our part to open the creative envelope, so to speak, to entertain you in a more contemporary way. We in the WWF think you, the audience, are, quite frankly, tired of having your intelligence insulted. We also think you're tired of the same old simplistic theory of 'good guys versus bad guys'. Therefore, we've embarked upon an innovative, contemporary campaign that is more invigorating and extemporaneous than before." - Vince McMahon delivers his 'New Direction' speech, Raw, December 1997.

I've the same problem, and i live in Scotland. I usually get it on the Friday, sometimes not until Saturday, but never the Thursday it's supposed to be out

From Moonsault.com, Disgusting, Dirty, Filthy, Ugly, Two Dollar, Bottom-Feeding, Trashbag Hoe-Stephanie McMahon Chris Benoyt-Chris Benoit Mr. Roboto-Chris Benoit Trip-Triple H "Stone Cold" Steve Ass-Clown-"Stone Cold" Steve Austin Raisin-Raven Kirk Angel-Kurt Angle Mr. T-Booker T JoJo Dillon-J.J. Dillon Bobby Dumb-Crumb Junior-Bobby Duncum, Jr. Edgeward-Edge Harold-Howard Finkle Gene Mene-Mean Gene Okerlund Greenberg-Goldberg Hoot-n-Toot Guerrera-Juventud Guerrera Quazzy Juice-Juventud Guerrera Baldcore Holly-Hardcore Holly Larry Lane-Lenny Lane Lizzy-Lizmark, Jr. Madison Square Jericho-Madison Square Garden Dean-o Machine-o-Dean Malenko Stinko Malenko-Dean Malenko Bore-Us Malenko-Boris Malenko Flea Marshall-Lee Marshall Ron Mysterio, Jr.-Rey Mysterio, Jr. Shahima Nobogawunga-Shima Nobunaga Shimo Rammalammadingdong-Shima Nobunaga Rockachichi-Rikishi Prince Nakamaki-Prince Iaukea Raw is Snore-Raw is War P.S. Saturn-Perry Saturn Ru Saturn-Perry Saturn Tony Skeeivone-Tony Schiavone Ken Scamrock-Ken Shamrock Summer Sham-Summer Slam Trash Stratus-Trish Stratus

From Online Onslaught.com: *** I. Championships and Eligibility A. World Heavyweight Championship 1. This title shall be held exclusively by Hunter Hearst Helmsley. 2. Exceptions to rule IA1 shall be made under the following circumstances: a) longtime friends of Hunter Hearst Helmsley, b) any person designated as a member of the Clique, or c) the death of Hunter Hearst Helmsley. Title reigns falling under these provisions shall not exceed one (1) month. Injuries incurred on Helmsley's part shall not result in loss of the title. 3. This title shall be defended at least once per month, against any of the following opponents: a) longtime friends of Hunter Hearst Helmsley, b) any wrestler who qualifies for the cruiserweight division, or c) an upper midcarder with great popularity, such as Booker T. Matches against this type of opponent shall end either in a disqualification, no contest, or a Helmsley win via interference or cheating. B. WWE Championship 1. This title may be held by any of the following competitors: a) Brock Lesnar b) Kurt Angle One(1)-month title reigns shall be allowed to the Big Show for variation in the title picture. 2. Any challengers for this title may not win. C. Intercontinental, U.S., Tag Team, and Cruiserweight Championships 1. These titles shall be allowed brief moments of perceived importance or popularity. 2. At all other times, these titles shall remain meaningless. D. Women's Championship The Women's Title shall always remain meaningless. II. Babyfaces and Heels A. Babyfaces 1. Babyfaces shall not be allowed a) to cheat, unless the babyface is either first provoked by a heel or is named Eddie Guerrero b) to cleanly defeat Triple H. Clean wins over Triple H may only occur in 1) a tag team match, or 2) a non-title match. Exceptions shall be made in circumstances outlined in rules IA3(a), IA3(b), and IA3©. B. Heels 1. Heels shall be allowed to cheat under any circumstances, be it by trickery or through the use of foreign objects. Such objects include, but are not limited to: a) sledgehammers b) steel chairs c) title belts d) trash cans and lids e) 2x4s f) barbed wire g) a combination of (e) and (f) h) forklifts i) zambonis j) steel pipes k) coffee l) fire extinguishers m) street signs n) the ring bell o) brass knuckles p) beer cans or bottles q) tables r) ladders s) prosthetic limbs, or t) bibles. 2. Though it is not a requirement, female heels are encouraged to look as ugly as possible. III. Individual Wrestlers: Requirements and Regulations A. Ric Flair Ric Flair is required to bleed in all confrontations, be it a match, ringside scuffle, or backstage fight. The amount of blood shed shall directly relate to the intensity of the feud. B. Rob Van Dam Rob Van Dam may not participate in an interview/promo without first smoking a significant amount of marijuana. C. Divas All divas, except those falling under the "ugly clause" outlined in rule IIB2, may not wear outfits covering more than thirty-five (35) percent of their bodies. D. Kevin Nash 1. Kevin Nash shall not be allowed on television before first deep-conditioning his hair. 2. Nash may not approach the ring at any pace faster than that of a leisurely stroll. E. Chris Jericho Chris Jericho shall not, under any circumstances, cleanly win a wrestling match. F. Hulk Hogan/Mr. America Hulk Hogan/Mr. America shall not include any phrases in his promos or interviews that were not introduced at least fifteen (15) years ago. New catchphrases and/or wrestling moves are strictly forbidden. Omission of the word "brother" is not allowed. G. Chris Benoit Chris Benoit is required to: 1. display technical mastery in the ring, and 2. never hold a major singles title. H. Eddie Guerrero See "Chris Benoit." I. Vince McMahon In the event that Mr. McMahon should develop a "great idea for a storyline," the past build-up of any wrestler's character and/or gimmick shall become null and void. J. Brock Lesnar Brock Lesnar is allowed to exhibit two (2) facial expressions: 1. "intense stare," and 2. "happy grin." Any other personality traits are strictly forbidden. K. Bill Goldberg See "Brock Lesnar," with omission of stipulation IIIJ2. L. Jerry Lawler Jerry Lawler shall not be allowed to watch a women's wrestling match without the inclusion of the word "puppies." Repeated use is encouraged. IV. Internet Wrestling Columnists Internet wrestling columnists shall be allowed to exhibit the following traits in their work: A. Fanaticism for Chris Benoit, Eddie Guerrero, Kurt Angle, Chris Jericho, John Cena, and the cruiserweight division. B. Cynicism. C. Negativity. D. Hatred for Triple H. E. Hatred for any McMahon whose first name is not Shane. F. Overblown egos. G. Advocacy for retiring any wrestler over the age of thirty-five (35), except those listed in rule IVA. H. Hatred of columnists on other wrestling sites. I. References to the author's personal life. J. Inane nicknames for the wrestlers. "Cripple H" and "Big Slow" are encouraged. K. Hatred for any episode of Raw or Smackdown! that does not contain "enough" wrestling, regardless of its entertainment value. Positivity, enjoyment of the WWE product, and "marking out" are strictly forbidden.

My new favourite poster... Hulkamania Fan!!!

Dan Krofatt is Phil LaPhon!!!

The Dames' Diatribe on WWE No Mercy 2002

Could someone please give me a link to, or paste, the WON 100 list.

From RajahWWF.com: They announce that Rowdy Roddy Piper's talkshow "Piper's Pit" will return to WWE TV next week on Smackdown! -------------------------------------------------------------- Yippeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Russo doesn't have complete control of writing the entire TNA product, which he did in WCW. This kind of watered-down Russo in the WWE could definitely work. He would still have to answer to, say, Paul Heyman or whoever. Therefore, completely shitty ideas that would ruin peoples careers will not go ahead, but his good ideas for pushing wrestlers like Kanyon would be a big help to their careers.

State of the Art, WWF's style versus the world The following Mitchell's Take was originally published two years ago (November 5, 2000) on PWTorch.com. It prompted quite a bit of discussion among fans of various international styles of wrestling... I got a chance to see on tape the historic Toshiaki Kawada vs. Kensuke Sasaki match from the Tokyo Dome's All Japan-New Japan non-title showdown recently. Great match. It needed to be. After the death of All Japan patriarch Shohei Baba, the split off of Pro Wrestling NOAH, and a dull year for New Japan's aging stars, the Japanese wrestling scene needed a spark. The long-anticipated New Japan vs. All Japan feud has much riding on it, even if All Japan is a shadow of its former self. Obviously this situation is similar to what might happen if the WWF buys WCW. One promotion is clearly stronger than the other, or these longtime rivals would never have worked together. Because of that, the weaker promotion needs to be artificially strengthened in the storyline. Which is why Kawada from All Japan, the best wrestler in either company, won the match. The build-up and setting of the match was exactly as it should have been, as could be expected from New Japan, which has been the most successful at the "promotion vs. promotion" gimmick of any company in the world. The question was Sasake, who while having been the IWGP Champion, is not held in the same regard as New Japan stars such as Shinya Hashimoto, Keiji Muto, and Masahiro Chono. These wrestlers, like this generation of All Japan main eventers, are past their primes due to age and the physical demands of the Japanese style. Sasake usually has decent, if boring, matches - but nothing more. Kawada, on the other hand, is the stiffest worker in the world and one of the AJ Big Three (with Mitsuharu Misawa and Kenta Kobashi) who had the best ring action anywhere in the '90s. The match lived up to its reputation. These two punched, chopped, and in particular, kicked the holy crap out of each other. The loud slap of skin, followed by sweat flying into the night air, underscored exactly how hard the blows were. Both looked strong, both looked tough, and Sasuke seemed to absorb some of Kawada's fighting spirit. After some well-built near falls Kawada won with an enzuigiri. Sasauke's surrender of the IWGP Title, even though the belt was not at stake, added the perfect coda to a perfectly booked match. Kawada, Sasuke, and All Japan were all re-established as main event threats in New Japan. Still, I was struck by a thought as I watched this excellent match. Japan no longer sets the standard for in-ring work in the world. While this match was executed well, the two neither showed the variety of moves nor told the breadth of story that WWF main eventers such as Triple H, Kurt Angle, The Rock, Chris Benoit, and Chris Jericho do. The WWF uses more holds, works them better, and uses more of them. As importantly, they're more mobile, using more of the ring and a better selection of moves to tell their story. They sell pain better because their facial expressions are much better, and they get over submission holds more effectively. As much credit as star power, soap opera, and production values get for keeping the WWF out of the rest of the world's wrestling downturn, don't fool yourself. Great wrestlers in great wrestling matches make wrestling companies great money.

Check this out. From a WrestlingNewsWorld.com guest column by a guy called Johny Porter... "In all honestly I have to say that I agree with Vince Russo when he said "WNA-TNA and the X-Division is the most exciting product he has seen in recent years." (This being the reason Vince left the WWE creative team to join the Jarrett's.) Laugh at me if you want but can you blame me when TNA boasts such main event superstars as Ken Shamrock, Sabu, Sean Waltman (aka X-Pac), Jeff Jarrett, Scott Hall and Steve Corino. Now there is no disputing that that is a roster to be proud of. Only having one event a week and not having 6 shows a week being rammed down our throats, as is the style of the WWE as late, means we have more time to look forward and anticipate a good fight."

I see your point. My point was that it's ironic that Bruce Mitchell was talking about this 2 years ago. I would have disagreed with him 2 years ago. In the last few months, however, that is absolutely correct, at least in my opinion.