Bored

Again this coming from a guy who called himself a "newbie" to college football this year. I bow to you great college football expert Dama! All those "experts" at ESPN don't know what they are talking about!

I think they are shunned b/c of the conference they're in. Which is kind of sad.....but then again if you are a really good team in a shitty conference(see USC) then it'd be easier for you to get victories. So USC beat the Big Ten Champ easily because they were in a "shitty" conference? Que? Pac-10 4-2 in bowl games. Big XII 1-5 in bowl games. Only match-up of Pac-10 and Big XII in the bowl season, Washington State beats Texas. Now who is in the shitty conference again? The Pac-10. USC played Pac-10 teams this season. They had a light SOS. OU played Big XII teams this season. They had a heavy SOS. OU's opponents were tougher than USC's period. There is no denying that. And there is no denying you completely ignored my point after your ignorant statement that the Pac-10 is a shitty conference. Face facts, the Big XII has been beaten down this bowl season.

I think they are shunned b/c of the conference they're in. Which is kind of sad.....but then again if you are a really good team in a shitty conference(see USC) then it'd be easier for you to get victories. So USC beat the Big Ten Champ easily because they were in a "shitty" conference? Que? Pac-10 4-2 in bowl games. Big XII 1-5 in bowl games. Only match-up of Pac-10 and Big XII in the bowl season, Washington State beats Texas. Now who is in the shitty conference again?

Standings thru 26 of 28 bowl games Points possible to this point: 376 Points possible remaining: 30 1. 2GOLD 244 2. Rob E Dangerously* 218 3. razazteca 217 Edwin MacPhitso* 217 5. Vern Gagne* 216 6. JHawk* 211 7. phoenixrising* 210 8. Lando Griffin* 207 9. Kotzenjunge* 202 10. Bored* 201 Cuban Linx* 201 12. bravesfan* 199 13. Agent Bond34* 197 bps "The Truth" 21* 197 15. teke184* 189 16. HarleyQuinn* 188 17. cartman* 173 18. CanadianChris* 170 19. Gatornibs* 162 20. The Mighty Damaramu* 150 21. MarvinisaLunatic* 148 the pinjockey* 148 23. Choken One* 144 * = mathematically eliminated

Fuck this noise...USC's cheerleaders are hotter than everyone elses. Oh those tight fitting, white sweaters. END OF DEBATE!

But OU and LSU are playing a team that is better than Michigan. They're going to have a tougher time dominating than USC because the team they are facing is better than what USC had to work with. *sigh* I give up. Tried to give a nice little, honest answer to end this nonsense and you don't budge off your soapbox.

Let's have fun with who lost to who: Oklahoma lost to Kansas State Who lost to Marshall Who lost to Troy State LSU lost to Florida Who lost to Mississippi Who lost to Memphis Who lost to UAB Who lost to Troy State USC lost to California Who lost to UCLA Who lost to Colorado Who lost to UAB Who lost to Troy State TROY STATE IS #1 BABY!!!

Let me just end this. USC played a great team yesterday, the best they've played all year, and destroyed them. Oklahoma (and LSU) plays a great team on Sunday, the best they've played all year, and if they dominate like USC did then there is no point in arguing anymore as they are equally good.

Um Cal beat Arizona by 28, got that backwards. Yes but your right these comparissons can go so far. Hell to take this shit deeper Cal lost to Kansas State in Kansas City, the site of the Big XII title game, by 14 in the season opener. Oklahoma lost on the same field to the same team by 28. Again doesn't necesarrily mean anything. Also USC's loss to Cal as has been mentioned was in triple overtime by three points on the road. If USC gets one more break in that game we're probably not even having this conversation.

Dama ya see you actually have valid points but your execution is horrendous. You just whine and whine and whine non-stop and have been doing it for a month now so no one takes you seriously. In all honesty you shouldn't be taken seriously because I remember during the season in the college football thread that you mentioned being a newbie to the sport so I don't think your exactly the most knowledgeable person on the subject.

Or maybe the Big XII has had a down year. 1-5 now in bowls after tonight. No one took Texas seriously all year and everyone had their doubts about them and they showed it in the Holiday Bowl that they aren't an elite team. Oklahoma State was okay this year but by no means a great team.

No...no we can't. I'm looking forward to him bitching about it during the Humanitarian Bowl tommorrow.

Yup you'll still have a 27 point lead on razazteca going into the Sugar Bowl and of course that game is worth...28 points. Rob E Dangerously and Edwin MacPhitso both picked Oklahoma so that's why they can't pass 2GOLD. Another thing of interest is JHawk is currently 55 points behind 2GOLD. If Ohio State hangs on for the win tonight and LSU beats Oklahoma he'll end up finishing one point behind 2GOLD and two points behind razazteca for the title. If only he hadn't lost NINE in a row at one point. Oh and my picks have completely gone in the shitter. I'm looking at an 0-3 today most likely and am going to need LSU to win to just finish in the Top 10, assuming Ohio State wins tonight. I'm actually happy I'm not going to win because it'd look kinda lame to win my own contest but shit after being in the lead and near it most of the contest I'd hope to hang on to a Top 10 finish.

The Clemson upset of Tennessee means only razazteca can beat out 2GOLD for the championship. I'll go into more detail later tonight. Standings thru 25 of 28 bowl games Points possible to this point: 350 Points possible remaining: 56 1. 2GOLD 244 2. Rob E Dangerously* 218 3. razazteca 217 Edwin MacPhitso* 217 5. phoenixrising* 210 6. Lando Griffin* 207 7. Kotzenjunge* 202 8. Bored* 201 Cuban Linx* 201 10. bravesfan* 199 11. Agent Bond34* 197 bps "The Truth" 21* 197 13. Vern Gagne* 190 14. teke184* 189 15. JHawk* 185 16. cartman* 173 17. CanadianChris* 170 18. HarleyQuinn* 162 19. The Mighty Damaramu* 150 20. MarvinisaLunatic* 148 the pinjockey* 148 22. Gatornibs* 136 23. Choken One* 118 * = mathematically eliminated

Standings thru 24 of 28 bowl games Points possible to this point: 330 Points possible remaining: 76 1. 2GOLD 224 2. Rob E Dangerously 218 3. phoenixrising 210 4. Lando Griffin 207 5. Kotzenjunge 202 6. Bored 201 Cuban Linx* 201 8. bravesfan* 199 9. razazteca 197 Agent Bond34 197 Edwin MacPhitso* 197 bps "The Truth" 21* 197 13. Vern Gagne 190 14. teke184 189 15. JHawk 185 16. cartman* 173 17. CanadianChris* 170 18. HarleyQuinn* 162 19. The Mighty Damaramu* 150 20. MarvinisaLunatic* 148 the pinjockey* 148 22. Gatornibs* 136 23. Choken One* 118 * = mathematically eliminated

Today’s Games Cotton Bowl: Mississippi vs. Oklahoma State, worth 19 points Pick Breakdown Mississippi (17) – 2GOLD, Rob E Dangerously, phoenixrising, Lando Griffin, Kotzenjunge, Cuban Linx, Agent Bond34, bps “The Truth” 21, Edwin MacPhitso, Vern Gagne, teke184, cartman, Canadian Chris, HarleyQuinn, MarvinisaLunatic, the pinjockey, Gatornibs Oklahoma Sate (6) – Bored, bravesfan, razazteca, JHawk, The Mighty Damaramu, Choken One Peach Bowl: Tennessee vs. Clemson, worth 20 points Pick Breakdown Tennessee (20) - Bored, Rob E Dangerously, bravesfan, phoenixrising, Lando Griffin, JHawk, Kotzenjunge, Cuban Linx, Agent Bond34, bps “The Truth” 21, Vern Gagne, teke184, cartman, Canadian Chris, The Mighty Damaramu, HarleyQuinn, MarvinisaLunatic, the pinjockey, Choken One, Gatornibs Clemson (3) - 2GOLD, razazteca, Edwin MacPhitso Fiesta Bowl: Kansas State vs. Ohio State, worth 26 points Kansas State (18) – 2GOLD, Bored, Rob E Dangerously, bravesfan, razazteca, phoenixrising, Lando Griffin, Kotzenjunge, Cuban Linx, Agent Bond34, bps “The Truth” 21, Edwin MacPhitso, teke184, cartman, Canadian Chris, The Mighty Damaramu, MarvinisaLunatic, the pinjockey Ohio State (5) – JHawk, Vern Gagne, HarleyQuinn, Choken One, Gatornibs

For anyone who is mathematically eliminated yet someone below you isn't that is because your remaining picks don't differ enough with 2GOLD's to pass him while their's do. The top 9 all have realistic shots at winning.

Standings thru 23 of 28 bowl games Points possible to this point: 311 Points possible remaining: 95 1. 2GOLD 205 2. Bored 201 3. Rob E Dangerously 199 bravesfan 199 5. razazteca 197 6. phoenixrising 191 7. Lando Griffin 188 8. JHawk 185 9. Kotzenjunge 183 10. Cuban Linx* 182 11. Edwin MacPhitso* 178 bps "The Truth" 21* 178 Agent Bond34 178 14. Vern Gagne 171 15. teke184 170 16. cartman* 154 17. CanadianChris* 151 18. The Mighty Damaramu* 150 19. HarleyQuinn* 143 20. MarvinisaLunatic* 129 the pinjockey* 129 22. Choken One* 118 23. Gatornibs* 117 * = mathematically eliminated It's anyone's game still...tune into tommorrow!

Solid Gold.

Hey do you notice that teke184, our resident LSU fan, hasn't done any complaining about USC being declared national champ by all of us no matter what LSU does? Maybe you should follow their lead and not whine about it and just let things play out, k?

Your on fire as your the only one to pick all four games so far today. The contest really might come down tonight as if Florida State pulls off the upset 2GOLD will be pretty close wrapping this thing up, although even then the Sugar Bowl likely will officially decide the winner. But if Miami wins tonight its anyone's game.

Anyone wanna create a "OAO Damaramu Whining about Oklahoma Thread" in the Hardcore folder? Anyways a truly brilliant performance by USC that only a late fumble prevented from being pretty much a perfect game played on their part. Really Michigan didn't play all that bad and they had the ball twice as much but USC was just that damn good.

Standings thru 22 of 28 bowl games. Points possible to this point: 284 Points possible remaining: 120 1. 2GOLD 205 2. Bored 176 3. Rob E Dangerously 174 bravesfan 174 5. razazteca 172 6. phoenixrising 166 7. Lando Griffin 163 8. JHawk 160 9. Kotzenjunge 158 10. Cuban Linx 157 11. cartman 154 12. Edwin MacPhitso 153 bps "The Truth" 21 153 Agent Bond34 153 15. Vern Gagne 146 16. teke184 145 17. MarvinisaLunatic 129 the pinjockey 129 19. CanadianChris 126 20. The Mighty Damaramu 125 21. HarleyQuinn 118 22. Gatornibs 117 23. Choken One 93

The People's National Champions...The University of Southern California Trojans. WOO HOO PAC-10 REPRESENT!!!

OKLAHOMA IS THE GREATEST TEAM OF ALL TIME DUDEZ!!!! There happy? Anyways I don't give two shits about who wins the Sugar Bowl (well LSU for the contest but life will go on if they lose) as if USC plays as well as they did in the 1st half and turns this game into a blowout then USC, in my mind, is the National Champion no matter what happens on the 4th.