Enigma

Hardy will be one of those 1-time champions like Benoit, JBL, and Eddie.

What exactly does that mean?

No, that was in December 1997. It was the last Nitro before Starrcade. I was there live for that snoozefest, so I'll never forget it.

I guess this can be locked. Victoria said the PWInsider report was full of shit and she's not even thinking about retiring.

Why is it a spoiler to say someone is backstage? And anyways, it's Mae Young, so who cares?

It didn't at all, I just wasn't sure if there was a point or not. Well, it is called random thoughts...

I'm pretty sure they've never wrestled a singles match together.

TV-PG = no male-on-female violence.

What the hell was that crap Savage did off the top rope to end the match off Haku?

Victoria always looked like a dyke in those pre-WWE photos and even looked rough in her first couple of WWE photoshoots. I guess it took them forever to find the right mixture to mask it.

I had the actual song that he used in perfect quality. It's some Japanese rock song. It was pretty cool.

In her latest WWE.Com blog, Michelle McCool reveals that WWE asked her to stop doing her "Wings of Love" finishing move because it was deemed too dangerous.

Man, that is a fucking empty crowd. Poor Savage. There were a lot of foulmouthed fans at ringside. Tons of bleeps during the tag match. And what the FUCK is going on with Bobby Heenan's hair? Yikes.

Well, she is getting near her 40s...

While we're at it, who is this "Finley"? I know of a "Finlay" though...

December 17, 1988 -- Spectrum -- The Red Rooster vs. Sam Houston -- Mr. Perfect vs. Paul Roma -- Rick Rude vs. Brutus Beefcake -- The Rockers vs. The Brainbusters -- IC Champ The Ultimate Warrior vs. The Honky Tonk Man -- Harley Race vs. Danny Davis -- WWF Champ Randy Savage vs. King Haku -- Jim Duggan vs. Frenchy Martin -- Andre the Giant vs. Jake Roberts

No, what I mean is that they've done post-show cage matches before. Usually, they use the manual cage for these so that they don't have to have a cage hanging above the ring that never gets used on television.

Nah, it's been done before. They probably used the old school blue bar cage for it.

It's a shame she never got to do Playboy like she wanted to. I'd have much rather seen her naked than trashbags like Ashley or Candice.

It was some interview he did a few years ago on the WWE.Com website (which is probably gone now, a lot of their old articles are gone). He explained that when he had to do the lyrics for the song after Sherri left, they had to do a lot of tricks with the machines to make his voice sound barely okay. He explained than when they did the remix in 1997, it sounded a lot better because he wasn't trying to sing seriously.

From PWI: Jeff Hardy attacked Triple H as he was on the way for their match. They brawl and there's no match as they never rang the bell. Vickie Guerrero and the referees break it up. Guerrero was knocked over in the melee. R-Truth pinned MVP. After the match, MVP takes the mic, but it gets cut off. Mr. Kennedy comes out. Kennedy says it's the time of year to be happy because it's time to promote his movie. Backstage, The Brian Kendrick tries to hit on the Bella Twins, but Primo gets involved. The Brian Kendrick pinned Primo. Ezekiel Jackson runs Carlito into the ring post, distracting Primo to set up the finish. Hurricane Helms pinned WWE United States champ Shelton Benjamin in a non-title match and was interviewed by Tazz, setting up him challenging for a title shot at Armageddon. The Cutting Edge with guest Matt Hardy. Edge claimed he didn't do anything to Jeff Hardy at the PPV, which brings out Matt Hardy, saying all signs point to Edge being involved. Edge tells him that he's only out there because the only time anyone cares about Matt Hardy is when Jeff Hardy is involved. Matt and Edge brawl, and Vladimir Kozlov shows up and lays out Matt. The Great Khali defeated Curt Hawkins & Zack Ryder in a Handicap Match. Eve interviews Triple H, who promises he'll become a 13-time champion at Armageddon. The Bella Twins defeated Natalya & Maryse. Eve interviewed Vladimir Kozlov. He said he would beat Matt Hardy for the ECW title and then challenge the winner of the WWE title match to become a double champion. Jeff Hardy vs. Triple H ended in a no-contest when Edge came out and destroyed both with his title belt. After the cameras went off, both men recovered and Jeff ate a pedigree. Dark Match The Undertaker defeated The Big Show in a Cage Match.

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To be fair, I always heard Striker was acting like a bitch, which is why Benoit did what he did. I think someone asked him to go out to drink with them after the show, but he declined in a very snobby and elitist way. He didn't just politely say, "Hey, thanks, but I don't drink. Sorry." He was reportedly being an ass about it. By the way, I think the thread title should trade the term "punches" with "knocked out" to accerlate the awesome (and because Styles legitimately knocked JBL out).

PWInsider is reporting that Lisa Marie Varon, known on WWE as Victoria, gave her notice that she was retiring over Survivor Series weekend and that she may be now officially done as an in-ring performer. She showed up on WWE TV in 2000 as the Godfather's Ho that got superkicked by Steven Richards as the Right to Censor angle was getting started. She also showed up in a GTV segment in the shower with Eddie Guerrero and another Ho. She was called up to the main roster in 2002 and has been there for the last 6 years. She won the Women's Championship two times.