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I remember the transcript of this was floating around RSPW back in the day. Could still probably be found with a search. (Edit: Ah, I found it, here it is): Jonathan Chau: "It should be noted that it was pretty obvious the way Savage, Jim Ross and Johnny Polo were interacting during the segment that all three knew what was about to be said. Savage's comments started with: "Have you ever heard the name Hulk Hogan? The five time WWF champion. Hulk Hogan became at one time the biggest superstar in the history of professional wrestling. I personally used to look up to Hulk Hogan. But that was a big mistake. I really thought he was a friend. But he's definately not. He's the worst prima donna I've ever met in my life... Hulk Hogan's ego went so far out of control that Hulk Hogan consummed Terry Bollea, which is his real name... Let's just say I've lost a lot of respect for Hulk Hogan aka Terry Bollea, both as a man and as a human being. That's an extreme understatement that I'm saying right there. A lot of people out there might be thinking it is professional jealousy. But putting professional jealousy aside, if there is any, which I'm not saying there is, I lost respect for Hulk Hogan big time. Number one, when he completely lied on Arsenio Hall, denying the use of anabolic steroids except for rehabilitation for an injury." At this point Ross asked Savage if he had ever used steroids. "Yes I have. I used anabolic steroids and when I was on Arsenio Hall, I told the people I did, when they were legal. But it's like putting poison in your body." Ross asked Savage if he currently uses them. "No, I sure don't. Nobody does in the WWF. But at the same time I was asked about it I told the truth. It was prevalant at the time, not just in wrestling but in all sports, baseball, basketball, football, you name it, it was there. It was in the gyms. It was legal at the time. But at the same time, if Hulk Hogan is the guy he says that he is, if he's leading the Hulkamaniacs down that tunnel where there's light at the end of the tunnel, and he's showing them the way, hey, the children are our future and if you're going to lie to them, if your lying to me, your lying to everybody, brother because thats just not the way it's happening. I remember being in the car with him the day before he went on Arsenio Hall in St. Louis, Missouri and I begged him for three hours not to go on and do that." At this point Ross, attempting to act surprised by the last statement, said, "You knew he was going to go on there and lie?" Savage responded, "Exactly. I knew that he was going to do it and lie about using anabolic steroids. I told him that he could be a leader among men if he would tell the truth. But he was worried about the image of the character of Hulk Hogan aka Terry Bollea. I said, 'brother, listen, we all make mistakes. Be honest. The world is more forgiving then you think.' Steroids were legal then. But he said, 'Not a chance.' He went on Arsenio Hall and lied big time. He hurt himself. I'm not worried about him hurting himself. But he hurt all of the WWF, because like I said before, he was a leader. He was a big-time, 5 time WWF champion. When he talks, people listen... Yeah, but when he went on Arsenio Hall and lied and then everything came down after that. You realize that he hurt himself. That he cared about. But I guarantee you from heart-to-heart right now, he couldn't care less about hurting any of us at the WWF." At this point Ross interjects, "Are you saying he's selfish?" Savage said, "To the umpteenth degree. And I'm not perfect. No doubt about it. This guy is really not even perfect, though he wants you to believe it." Ross then brought up his celebrated marriage and divorce with Liz Huelette (Elizabeth). Savage's comments were: "There was a time I fell in love. I got engaged and got married, and it was to Elizabeth. Then it got to a point that some of the kids out there can relate to. Maybe it happened to their mother and father or uncle and aunt. Sometimes it just doesn't go forever. Elizabeth and I were married, but we were having problems. It happens that at the time Elizabeth and Hulk Hogan's wife were very, very, very best friends. And they were running around together. I didn't think it was healthy for our relationship, but whatever's whatever. A lot of people can have different kinds of friends. But there was a time when I was wrestling on the road while we were having problems and I would call home and Elizabeth wouldn't be there. During a certain segment of time, I would just get another phone call. Being the master of the phone that I am and I would have conversations with Hulk Hogan. And he would give me swerves and curves, but never tell that Liz was over there... She was either out with his wife Linda or hiding out at their house. Later on, while I was wrestling on the road, basically when I would call home and there was no answer for four days and Elizabeth was MIA, Missing in action for four days, I was worried about my wife then, and I still am now. I can't help that. Because in my heart I'll always love her. It's very hard to let go. But you've got to let go. That's for people out there who have situations like that. But no doubt about it, being honest, four days went by and Liz called me and told me to get a lawyer because she wanted a divorce. That was end of story right there." Ross then asked Savage if he thought Hogan knew about the divorce and what was going on at the time: Savage responded, "Like, Hogan and his wife were in Miami filming that movie that bombed," at which point Ross asked him which one that had bombed and Savage responded, "Mr. Nanny. He's a three time loser. He starts out with No Holds Barred that did about $10 million. Then Suburban Commando did less. Then he broke his own record for doing less then that with Mr. Nanny. Not to say there's anything personal right here. It's kinda like Crush. A Hulk Hogan situation. I was making calls and going comletely out of my mind because I didn't know where she was and couldn't even talk to her because she wanted the lawyers and all, but he gave me curves and swerves again saying he didn't know where she was but said, 'Brother if I hear anything, I'll let you know.' But in desperation I flew to Miami at the Jockey Club where Hogan was staying and where they were filming the movie Mr. Nanny and there I found Liz, shockingly (the word shockingly was used sarcastically). Obviously by this time, only half shocked ye dig... Honesty and friendship between Hulk Hogan aka Terry Bollea and the Macho Man Randy Savage aka Randy Poffo, brother I'm out there in front of you. Hit me with your best shot. The honsety and friendship wasn't there and possibly it was never was. And right now, talking on Radio WWF, I would tell you it was never there. I was fooled. I didn't know it and Liz didn't know it either. She thought she had a best friend with Hulk Hogan's wife. But now we both know,. Seperately of course, because we are legally divorced. Can you believe the fact that Hulk Hogan's wife and Liz don't even talk now? So what kind of friends do you think they were? It's almost like they got the job done. This is a worst case scenario, broke us up, did what ever they had to do. They're not even friends now. I think Liz realizes alot because as time goes by, you know what I mean, and I wish the best for her. But a lot's changes and the trust is broke... I've changed a lot in my life time.. A WWF match, if Hogan didn't like what I said over the airwaves and wanted to do that in front of the WWF in any arena near by or in a garage of his choice, that would be cool for the Macho Man Randy Savage, because you can beat me, but not eat me. And I don't think you could beat me." A side note for ye... it should be noted that Randy Savage was the one responsible for giving Hulk a black eye before Wrestle Mania... "

Your newspaper experience seems to completely mirror everyone else I've known who has worked in that industry. Long hours and low pay for thankless work. It's an industry in turmoil right now, and doesn't seem to be getting better. Honestly, the only people who read papers anymore are middle aged and older. A lot of advertisers are finally realizing these facts, and cutting back on the dollars they put towards newspaper ads. Consequently, positions at papers don't get refilled, or one guy is expected to do the work of three people. Not exactly a big growth field. $30,000/yr isn't that bad, starting out. People often think that a college degree automatically entitles you to a great high paying job, but it doesn't anymore unless you graduate with something you can use in a high demand, niche sort of field. Hell, when I graduated, the economy was horrible (shortly after Sept. 11th), and all I could find was a mediocre retail sales job. I wasn't making much more than $20,000 a year. Thankfully I soon got married and my wife had a good job where we didn't have to worry about how we were going to pay rent or utilities. Worked there a couple years, gained sales experience, and then when I realized I basically had zero advancement opportunity, I left and did outside advertising sales for a couple years. Wasn't making tremendously more money, but at least I could wear a suit to work and carry myself with some self-respect, usually. The benefits were at least OK, and I didn't have to literally go into work angry every day, like when I was in retail. Now I'm self employed and finally making decent money. My point is, it doesn't happen overnight. It usually takes at least a couple years to really establish a career for yourself after college. If you want to be a cop though, be a cop. Don't let other people affect your life...you're the one that has to be happy with yourself, not other people.

I actually agree with this. The argument that gets put out: "You can't sustain a family on a minimum wage job!" is also a joke. You're not supposed to sustain a family with that kind of job, period. Those jobs are for high school kids, college students, and people who just need a second or part time job. The minimum wage isn't and shouldn't be designed so that someone can support a family of four with one minimum wage job. It's ridiculous.

I don't know why you put radio in quotation marks. Basically, if I recall, it was a syndicated program that ran on radio stations throughout the country. I think it usually aired during weekends. I never heard it, because it didn't seem to be in my area. In pre-internet days, it was pretty hard to check up on this stuff. I remember them talking about airing matches and having discussion about WWF happenings when they would plug it on TV, though.

The whole thing just seemed to have no direction at all. If they had just made it cut and dry "The young guys are trying to get their shot, and the older stars are holding them down" and stuck to that, it could have been good. But, typical Russo, they threw in too much soap opera crap and, as mentioned, basically made everyone act heelish. Just a big mess in the end. I remember one typical comment around that time, when they'd have someone like Kidman wrestle Hogan on Nitro and job "Just because a guy is jobbing higher up on the card, doesn't mean he's being elevated."

Are they retarded? I hope Howard Dean is reaming these idiots.

Do we have to draw you a picture? Nuclear power used for electricity would mean less oil and gas used to power homes and businesses, lowering demand for those commodities and subsequently lowering gas prices. And why the hell are you talking about nukes? Like others have pointed out, France and other countries are using nuclear power plants to generate power, without ensuing nuclear holocaust. Hell, we have a few here, let's not forget. The nuclear waste boogey man is a poor excuse not to pursue further expansion of nuclear energy in the US.

You mean you can't use it for electricity for houses and stuff?

Didn't we already have this thread a couple months ago?

I've often wondered if people like Coulter, Hannity, and Limbaugh are on some secret GOP payroll.

They gave up being Rhodesia for this?

Saw this on Drudge. Just wondering if this idea completely sickens anyone else? http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/0806_exclu...gnant_man.shtml

It wouldn't surprise me if something like that happened at this point. It would send a message, to an extent. I'm surprised there hasn't been more violence in regards to gas prices in general. Are we just becoming too sedate as a society?

Yeah, Finlay's happy face music sucks.

Tiffany looks like Kelly Kelly. I was confused at first.

From Drudge: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/worl...icle4107327.ece This is fascinating. I do think Bush is probably a well meaning man who is either incompetent, or has simply made horrible choices (maybe both), and this sort of confirms it, if he is sincere.

A while ago the topic was brought up of "Why does WWE keep bringing back 'Legends' from the '80s, but hardly ever the '90s?" At least this partly answers that. Nice to see them bring back someone who isn't completely over the hill and can probably still work.

Speaking of doing the same match, the Bushwhackers fell in that category. Even as a little kid, I didn't like them, and knew they were nothing special in the ring.

Right. I guess part of my point is that it's absurd for people to pretend this person is a man.

Why is that?

Yep.

I have no idea why we're discussing Humphrey right now.

Actually, I think the McCain ad is fairly effective for the message it's trying to get across. It distances him from Bush while still giving the "I'm going to keep you safe" message.

Do I even have to say what I'm thinking here?

Nice report, but it doesn't matter. It's not like Bush or any of his upper level cronies will ever get punished for this war.