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Yet another instance where the Clinton campaign has to back track on something Hillary said.

Pretty decent Flair video there.

I was planning on ordering it, but found out the friend I was going to split it with can't make it. I don't know if I can swallow spending 50 some bucks on a PPV, regardless of the card.

It's weird how they brought in Tenryu for several PPV matches, but didn't really make a big deal about him, and didn't explain who he was. I mean, he was one of the biggest stars in Japan at the time, if I'm not mistaken. They didn't really do anything to play him up, other than a quick blurb maybe in the PPV promo reports.

Surprised no one is talking about this too much. This is a pretty big deal, what with the Beijing Olympics coming up. I bolded a couple quotes that I found very telling regarding China's position. I am wondering when more of the world is going to call them out for this stuff. http://malaysia.news.yahoo.com/ap/20080319...ru-bb10fb8.html BEIJING - Chinese officials blasted the Dalai Lama as a "wolf in monk's robes" Wednesday and said protests among Tibetans this month have sparked a life-and-death struggle between China and followers of the exiled Tibetan spiritual leader. State media, meanwhile, reported more than 100 people had surrendered to police in and around Tibet's regional capital of Lhasa, where peaceful protests against Chinese rule turned violent last Friday. The communist government had promised leniency for those who handed themselves in _ and harsh punishment for those who did not. "Those criminals ... shouldn't think they can get lucky. All criminals will definitely be caught in the net," the official Tibet Daily newspaper said in a report posted on its Web site. It was impossible to confirm the reports and no figures were given for people hunted down and arrested. Foreign media are banned from Tibet, and China's entirely state-controlled media have faithfully reported only the official version of events, in which the government has said rioters killed 16 people. The government said troops did not fire on protesters and has denied claims by overseas Tibetan groups that 80 people were killed. The Lhasa protests marked the biggest challenge in almost two decades to Chinese rule in the Himalayan region, which People's Liberation Army forces occupied in 1950 after several decades of effective independence. Initially led by monks, the demonstrations began peacefully on March 10, the anniversary of a failed uprising in 1959 against Chinese rule, and then spiraled out of control. On Tuesday, Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao accused supporters of Tibet's exiled Buddhist leader, the Dalai Lama, of organizing the violent clashes in hopes of sabotaging this summer's Beijing Olympics and bolstering their campaign for independence in the Himalayan territory. Tibet's hardline Communist Party chief was quoted was quoted Wednesday issuing a particularly viscous personal attack on the Dalai Lama, winner of the 1989 Nobel Peace Prize. "The Dalai is a wolf in monk's robes, a devil with a human face but the heart of a beast," Zhang Qingli was quoted in the Tibet Daily as saying at a meeting of the Tibet government. "We are now engaged in a fierce blood-and-fire battle with the Dali clique, a life-and-death battle between us and the enemy," Zhang said. Building on such comments, Tibet's former governor Raidi accused the India-based Tibetan government-in-exile of engineering the riot to "disturb the social stability at such a sensitive time." "The violent crime instigated by the Dalai clique is nothing but a symbol that shows fierce head-on combat between us and the Dalai clique," Raidi was quoted as saying by Xinhua on Wednesday. The Dalai Lama, who fled Tibet during the 1959 uprising, has urged his followers to remain peaceful, saying he would resign as head of the Tibetan government-in-exile if violence got out of control. However, he also suggested China may have fomented unrest in the Lhasa and nearby provinces to discredit him. The protests have focused world attention on China's human rights record ahead of the Olympics, prompting discussion of a possible boycott of the Games' Aug. 8 opening ceremony and calls from U.S. officials and others for China to address Tibetans' grievances and engage in direct talks with the Dalai Lama. Critics say China fuels such anger through harsh restrictions on Tibetan culture and Buddhism _ including routine villification of the Dalai Lama, who is still deeply revered by most Tibetans. The government has also been accused of marginalizing Tibetans economically, in part by encouraging migration to Tibet by members of the Han Chinese ethnic majority. Lhasa was reportedly calm under a tight security presence that moved in over the weekend. An employee of the local Coca-Cola bottler, who declined to give his name, said a small demonstration was held in the city on Tuesday, but protesters had fled when troops arrived. He said the company had conducted no business since Friday when customers, including a wholesaler, shops and supermarkets had been attacked and looted. Protests spilled over from Tibet into surrounding provinces in recent days, as police and soldiers set up checkpoints across a wide swath of western China. On Tuesday, thousands of Tibetans flooded the streets of Seda, in Sichuan province, according to the Tibet Center for Human Rights and Democracy. Activist groups also circulated graphic photographs of protesters who they said were massacred Sunday by Chinese police at Kirti monastery, also in Sichuan. The images showed several men who were apparently shot and bodies covered in blood. There was no way to verify the authenticity of the photographs. A receptionist at the area's Nianbao Hotel said weapons had been fired as hundreds of Tibetan protestors poured into the streets. She said the area had been sealed off under a curfew and residents were confined to their homes.

KotR '95 was kind of in WWF's "We have no fucking clue what we're doing" period of roughly late '94 through mid '96. Diesel being champion didn't help much, as I don't think anyone but the biggest marks were really into him as champion. So many bad gimmicks during that time. Plus, the company was losing money and dealing with legal issues...just a really embarassing time for the company all around.

Joey, I do think people tend to over romanticize the old NWA stuff a bit too much (I mean, there's many reasons why Crockett didn't take over the US wrestling scene and Vince McMahon did), but you have to remember that for its time, this TV show was pretty cutting edge.

As far as the WBF, I remember at least one of the top "stars" in that thing was supposed to transition to wrestling, but it never happened.

You can't really rank OTE '99...Owen Hart's death should just disqualify it from discussion. KotR '95 still probably ranks as my least favorite WWF PPV ever. I mean, King Mabel. That enough should make it the consistent winner of worst ever.

Right, which is primarily Bush's fault. I don't know why this isn't talked about more in the news. China could basically wreck our whole economy if they chose too. They won't right now, because they need America's trade right now because they are growing so rapidly, or at least that's my understanding. Still, I don't get why the Democrats can't call Bush out on stuff like this more. Anyway, if the world just stands by and lets the riots in Tibet get crushed again, I don't want to hear any bitching at the US. The rest of the world could stand up and do something if they wanted, but they won't.

The Humanzee: OK, it's not really part human, but this is Oliver, a very strange chimpanzee who walks upright.

Yeah, but how many US troops wounded? Anyone know?

Well, you have to love how completely silent Bush has been on this whole thing. I guess he doesn't want to piss off his Chinese masters.

Hey, a white belt to match the color of your skin. How fashionable.

Don't get Carlito Brigante riled up guys...he's very athletic, you know.

Was anyone ever able to determine if Psicosis was actually supposed to win the title in that match? The way it happened, it almost looked like an accident. It was also kind of weird since Psicosis was never really booked as a top contender to the CW Title at that point.

I was going to mention that one. I think Malenko and Misterio had a couple really good TV matches, IIRC. They would have to put at least one token lucha six or eight man tag, just to show how many luchadores WCW was featuring at the time. I would also include Lex Luger's World Title win over Hulk Hogan, just because it was such a huge moment, and somewhat unexpected. Of course, it ended up not really mattering six days later, but it was still a pretty big deal. The Regal/Finlay parking lot brawl would have to be on there, too.

The thing was, I think a Vampiro/Sting feud could have been decent, if they had just ditched all the hokey stuff Vampiro was doing and just made it a situation where Vampiro was trying to take Sting's spot as a main eventer.

She must not have much of a job or life if she has this much spare time on her hands.

Surprised there were no comments about the Naturals being used in a squash match.

As much as I like RVD, I have to say that I never got the big deal about the RVD/Lynn matches. Maybe it's because I've never cared about Jerry Lynn at all.

Heck, I have to point out that even in the relatively rural area that I live in, they used to have train service between cities. People decided they liked driving a car better.

Huckabee's comments are very fair and spot on.

Oh geez...the Misfits In Action...yeah, that was just a mess. I mean, I think even the biggest WWF marks who thought Val Venis and the Godfather were great at the time probably thought a guy named "Hugh G. Rection" was pretty lame. I really don't get who that was supposed to appeal to. I agree though, Storm was used pretty well by WCW. He kind of got lost in the shuffle in WWF.