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You can rap all you want Dames, but it's like the real world of hip-hop, all the bling-bling and cheap punchlines don't clean up the seedy underworld that underlies all of the glitz and glamour of the genre. Just like this forum, just replace glitz and glamour with stupidity and cunt licking.
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Crucifixio Jones question
Cherry Blossom Viscount replied to The Czech Republic's topic in No Holds Barred
Banky brought up some damn good points and alot of the things that go on around here are bullshit. Dames, stop towing the damn "Forum Line" about this place being fair and shit. You might as well throw that out of the damn window because the mods have too many times proved that null and void. You say that flaming is okay in other folders in "small amounts" but the mods have banned people for one offense. Of course it's people the forum doesn't seem to favor, how Johnson has managed to survive is a testament to his own cleverness in playing the system like a fucking fiddle. This "change" in the flaming rule came after Marney showed up. Before then, flaming wasn't tolerated ANYWHERE, not even in the CE folder. But after people started complaining about Marney, the rules were changed in her favor. The WWE folder is rampant with flaming and stupidity but it'd be too much work to ban all of those people, huh Dames? This place is looked at as a fucking joke. Do you know that? This the laughing stock of the net. I'm not saying that as my opinion, it's a commonly shared opinion by many people. Dames, you seem like a pretty nice guy, but you're not running the place I tell you that. There's a small circle running the place, and you're not part of that circle. You're like the Pope Dames, people just respect you because you have a "title." You need to think about things Dames. I know this is the net, but when you're paying for a bunch of people to act like retards, use power plays, and run politics, that affects your REAL life. -
What would I do? Glad you asked? First, I'd have Jericho's team lose. That way Austin can do as he wants and smack people around. That opens up a few possbilities. With Austin being able to do as he wishes and open cans of "whupass" at will, Jericho would begin forming an Alliance with some of the main heels, notably Christian (always an ally) and possibly Batista, since they seem to be pushing this guy to have a go at Austin. Anytime Austin beats up on a heel, these three could come out and attack him, or sneak attack him later. This would draw heat as the marks want Austin to be this badass, but when it leads to three-on-one beat downs by the same guys and possibly Steiner with his "lead pipe," it will become maddening. While all of this is going on, Jericho will begin to manipulate Stratus into a tweener type position. Face in the women's division, but heel as she is falling for Jericho. One RAW, Bastista could be handling Evolution business and Chirstian could be otherwise busy leaving Jericho alone. Austin calls Jericho out and they battle with promos before Austin prepares to attack him. Stratus runs down and Austin smacks her bringing out Lita to save her friend, she is stunnered as well. I mean, why not? Austin can do no wrong as a face, and it has a MINOR justfication. Jericho uses this to his advantage and takes the evidence to Bischoff and who then takes it to the famed "Board of Directors." They are apalled, but not enough to fire Austin, but enough to send him away from the bulk of the women who they feel he is a threat to. Jericho gets over HUGE as a heel and he has a Hi-Lite reel with Austin and Austin attacks him but then of course Christian, Batista, and possibly Stienr attack him and drag him off of the show. There, you get Jericho over in the context of the storyline and Austin can do his thing on Smackdown. Maybe as a turned heel because of his demons catching up with him.
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It fits perfectly. The point of the story right now is that Austin is GM and Jericho wants him out. Every decision Austin makes enrages Jericho even more than the last one he made. This was the final straw. Now, Jericho finally has a chance to totally explain himself and his motives, which go a little deeper than getting a couple of stunners. No, it doesn't. It explains *why* Jericho wants Austin fired. There would be no breaking of character. This is NOT a shoot! JR's disbelief is that someone stood up to Austin like that, not that "this isn't part of the show". Austin's disbelief is that he realizes some of these things are true and doesn't know what to say in response. The ones that have been told that Austin can't attack everyone at will without being provoked. It's a key point in taking the story somewhere instead of just repeating the same scenario every week. It's not a character change, it's an explanation of relatable heel motive, which we almost never get from WWE. As I said, the point of that is for Jericho to plant dissension in Team Austin. Booker and RVD are sacrificing themselves for Austin's cause here, but what has he done for either of them since becoming GM? This would be followed up with Jericho approaching them backstage and going into more detail. No, I didn't. I wrote that promo because it gives the story more depth. The storyline is on the verge of really having something, but it has to get a boost and needs some inciting incident either in making Jericho even more of a whiny bitch and Austin more of a rogue, fan-loving GM, or it needsd a purpose to build for the future. I simply chose the latter. The promo still does not fit into the storyline. Bascially, you're just taking your run of the mill, "You're holding us young guys down, WAH!" storyline and wrapping it up in a shiny package. At the heart of the story, you still have the Old Guard vs. New Guard situation. Also, Austin's character, as stale as it is, would NOT let someone talk down to him like that. It would kill his heat because it's SOOOOO easy to respond to a promo like that. The marks know that. All it would take is Austin saying, "Well Jericho, maybe the reason you're stuck in a rut, WHAT, I said maybe the reason you're stuck in a damn rut is because you're a sorry son of a bitch. I'm the guy in charge, WHAT, I said I'm the guy in charge here, and I'll keep your sorry ass out of the title picture as long as I damn well please. So take your whining ass to the back unless you have the balls to provoke me so I can whip your ass. Talk is cheap ya long haired bastard. And that's the bottom line 'cause Stone Cold said so!" "BAH GOD! STONE COLD JUST LAID A VERBAL ASSKICKING TO THE ARROGANT, EGOMANCAL CHRIS JERICHO!!!!!!" See, how easy that was? So, why is it believable, AT ALL, for Stone Cold and JR to be silent after Jericho's promo. No one would buy that. And like I said before, it is NOT in Jericho's character to support others unless it's going to benefit him, especially not his arch rivals on the other side of the spectrum. He can get rid of Austin without having to give lip service to RVD and Booker, so why should take a calculated risk to form dissention on the other side when you they most likely won't trust Jericho anyway?
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The problem with that promo is that it doesn't fit into the current storyline. Chris Jericho is not after a title shot, he just wants Austin out of power. That's his motivation. So, bringing the HHH/Goldberg situation into play makes no sense and muddles up the storyline. Plus, you want the announcers and Austin to basically break character to sell that spiel. What mark is going to believe Austin would sit there and take that from Jericho? There's no build-up there to either of those character changes; Jericho suddenly getting balls, and Austin gettng his cut off. Also, you made a mistake by having Jericho mention the RVD's and Bookers. Why? they are faces. One of which Jericho beat down and another of which he goes against on a regular basis. Jericho barely cuts the heels any slack, so why would he speak for the betterment of those who do not share his ideals? You wrote that promo without thinking; just for the sake of Jericho getting over.
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I understand Banky. I sat back and thought to myself...."Why did I pick on people in school?" and realized....because they fought back and it made it so much funner. And I now realize that. I was just making it even more fun for you guys. Man I feel like an ass. But you know...I guess these are the experiences that build character. Maybe I can take it and apply it towards real life....you know.....I've learned things on here before. Anyways yes I agree with you Banky. And yes I see your point of view. And I think I'm finally ready to have fun. But I will be dead honest with you now and share something from MY life. I when growing up was picked on in grade school. And I was picked on a lot. And it made me feel like crap. And I could never understand why I was picked on. Then I got to Jr. High and things started to get better...I still got picked on but people were lightening up. Then I got to High School and I had a great time. I had a lot of friends and I was having a great time. Now that I'm in college....well....let's just say that the little boy that was picked on in grade school is gone. But then I get on here and I get picked on. And maybe the reason I took it so personally is because I'm still insecure about that time of my life. I know it sounds stupid...but anybody that's ever been picked on may be able to agree. Maybe that's why I took it personally. I didn't see you guys as people I don't know on a message board. I saw you more as the bullies that made grades 1-6 a living hell. But you know.....your not. And you just said it yourself. You're just fucking with me...you're not intentionally trying to hurt me. So maybe that will explain why I take it so personally... This post is THAT much better if you read it with the Full House "life lesson" piano song playing in the background. Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww (Applause) Alright, now who wants some ice cream! But this time, I'm going to do the scooping, Michelle. (Canned Laughter) (Ending Riff)
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Eh, none of these "villains" matches up to Col. Tavington. I mean, for christ sakes, he shot a damn kid!
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Tell me again how this is helping a Pro. Wrestler, how this will lead to an actual WORKING being put over. Please, I'd love for you to explain that one again. Well, not so much as explain but rather, tiptoe around it as you did before. Just face it, it's just ANOTHER angle to shit on the wrestlers, in which they play pawns, ONCE AGAIN, in the overall scheme and angles of the non workers. I still want an example of how this is commonplace, I'm still waiting. Maybe they'll see that Coach is a pretty good talker and can draw some good heel heat and put him with somebody that needs it. I think that's what Johnson was getting at. How hard was it to see that? This isn't fucking rocket science DH.
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"I beat that bloody police mon over the heed with a dingo so boddly he was blading out of de ee-yas!" Nathans Jones mentality, lol - Raven1919 Simple and to the point. Good. *A group of inmates are in the library sorting out books.* Heywood: "Lita: The Less Travelled ROAD" by Amy Dumb-Ass. Andy: What? Heywood: It says right here *points to book* Dumb-ass. Andy: Lemme see that. *Heywood hands Andy the book* Andy: That's "Dumas", do you know what this book is about? *Heywood shrugs* Andy: It's about how to succeed in Wrestling by only knowing 3 moves, and frequently botching 2 of them. Red: Why, we aught to put that by Hulk Hogans. - RavishingRickRudo An overbooked mess. Apply for a writer or booker position at the WWE.
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Why oh why do Austin McMahon and Shane McMahon put themselves over the talent? Why? I'm sick of it. Johnathan Coachman pulled off a great heel turn, last night, becoming mega over, possibly the second or third most over heel on the show (Kane's more of a tweener) and cutting an excellent promo. I doubt anyone really knew he had it in him. Of course, the WWE can't have too many heels getting over at once, so out comes SCSA to kill his heat. But wait, not yet Steve! Let's send the IC champ out there as well. After Christian draws some ehat for his promo, Austin can wait no longer. He is rabid. Out he comes, ignores Christian, this is the IC champ here, and proceeds to kill Coachman's heat and a little of Bischoff's for good measure. So, Christian musters up a little courage and looks strong for a few seconds before a stare from Austin, a semi-retired crippled wrestler, shuts him up. Kick in his knees! That's all he had to do! So, after that, he forces Chrisitan into a match with Jerry Lawler, a 50 year old man. Hey, remember when Lawler was a hel commentator that hated face Austin? Ha ha ha ha ha. Good times. Anyway, Christian, the IC champ, shows FEAR, at the thought of wrestling a guy that could be his father. *Sigh* Then, there Shane. Kane's storyline on RAW was the best. It was built well and written well. However, anytime Shane got involved, a little would be taken away from Kane. Kane had to SELL for Shane, a part time performer. an untrained wrestler, a fact that the ccommentators play up. Kane was getting over greatly as a tweener (certainly not what the WWE wanted). I guess Kane's momentuous heat had to be killed. Not by RVD in a brutal WM20 match for the title after months of an insane yet genius Kane going on a rampage through both rosters. No, not like that. But by boy wonder Shane McMahon. First, I'm no Jericho fan. But, WHY HE FUCK WAS SHANE BEATING HIM?! IT MAKES NO SENSE!!!!! It made Jericho look weak. Jericho has been treated well in th past few weeks, so I guess he has to repay that by selling fro the bosses son. But not to fear, Kane is here. Kane prepares a bed of fire for our hero, and alas, in a cruel twist of irony, he is thrown into it himself! Ahhh, yes, let's make both Kane AND Jericho look weak! I guess that beating of Jericho still wasn't enough to stop that soldier of virtue Shane from killing Kane. It'ss amazing, Kane was laying in a bed of fire, yet, he had no more heat. Fuck you Shane. Fuck you Austin.
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The Clique's one year title reign
Cherry Blossom Viscount replied to Youth N Asia's topic in The WWE Folder
Some people on this forum remind me of the stupid women that stay with their abusive boyfriends, complaining all the way, yet doing nothing to end the cycle. -
Just give Shane the belt already
Cherry Blossom Viscount replied to Youth N Asia's topic in The WWE Folder
Whao. Calm down there Bradshaw. -
Two McMahons Go Over
Cherry Blossom Viscount replied to Cherry Blossom Viscount's topic in The WWE Folder
I wish Orton would piledrive Austin onto a glass table and then piss on him. It'd solve two problems, Austin would be out (unless he no sells it) and the Orton bashers might just shut up becuase he would finally be over. -
Smackdown...hopes and desires for it?
Cherry Blossom Viscount replied to ChrisMWaters's topic in The WWE Folder
Oh, silly me! But, wait that doesn't make sense. See, Vince himself hasn't yet tried to attatch himself to Eddie Guerrero or put him his personal stable of heels at his beck and call. After Vince is one with him, Steph will pin him after 3 stunners from Austin who's able to be on SD! thanks to a "loophole" in his contract. -
Smackdown...hopes and desires for it?
Cherry Blossom Viscount replied to ChrisMWaters's topic in The WWE Folder
And it'll be Shane that rigged the explosives! -
That whole paragraph had me in stitches.
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Two McMahons Go Over
Cherry Blossom Viscount replied to Cherry Blossom Viscount's topic in The WWE Folder
Bischoff and Coach don't ned their heat preserved, but they don't need it killed either. Bischoff has been made to look like an idiot time and time again and is still over, so there's really not much that can be done to him. But heel Coachman is new, entertaining, and over. They should let him build his heel heat more before having people destroy him. It just seems someone can't get over without Austin or a McMahon interjecting themselves. -
Two McMahons Go Over
Cherry Blossom Viscount replied to Cherry Blossom Viscount's topic in The WWE Folder
His promos weren't interesting last night. The first one with Terri sucked and was rambling, and the in-ring promo with Coach/Bisch/Christian was just Austin no selling what everyobdy else had to say, insulting them (and the IC belt, the one he brought back) and basically making them look like bitches as they cowered in the corner. Why couldn't they stand up to him if not beat him down? There is NO reason for a non wrestler to look that strong. -
Two McMahons Go Over
Cherry Blossom Viscount replied to Cherry Blossom Viscount's topic in The WWE Folder
This is the same Austin that was squashed by the Rock at Wrestlemania. He has lost some of his asskicking powers. Like I said, there were THREE heels in that ring last night, a muscular commentator, the IC champ, and a black belt. They could have beaten his ass down or AT LEAST stood up to him without Austin losing any heat. He is just the face version of HHH's character. -
Every heel, sans HHH, will look like an idiot when in the presence of Austin or a face McMahon.
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They should have just let Mack continue his streak despite not being over, it worked for Orton.
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It's better that Coach was in that role. We got heel Coachman and Christian staved off being embarrassed one more day.
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Yeah, and with Bischoff, you have someone that is willing to look weak. The Vince McMahon character hasn't looked weak in a loooooong time.
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Two McMahons Go Over
Cherry Blossom Viscount replied to Cherry Blossom Viscount's topic in The WWE Folder
I don't remember Kane kicking Austin's ass. Maybe a chokeslam or something. The weakest I remember Austin looking is when Kane was in his insecire stage and Austin didn't look him in the face. But that was more to play up to the fact that Kane was ugly wheather than Austin looking weak. Also, it's not about Austin sqaushing a "loser" like Coachman, it's the fact that he's booked too damn strong for a fucking co-GM. There were three heeels in that ring; a bulked up commentator about the size of Randy Orton (Coach), a certifed black belt (Bischoff), and the IC champion (Christian), and they were all scared shitless of Asutin. Would it be too much to ask that they could have at least beat the guy down? Geez! -
Smackdown...hopes and desires for it?
Cherry Blossom Viscount replied to ChrisMWaters's topic in The WWE Folder
Why? No one buys Benoit as a heel and the turn would kill the heat he has now. And I wouldn't want Benoit to leech off the heat that TWGTT has EARNED by being the damn good bastards they are. No 15 minute promos here.