Elbarto997

Steely Dan is perfectly adequate Jazz Rock, actually. Much more listenable and much less pretentious than, say, Phil Collins. That much should at least be handed in favor of Fagen & Becker.

Sorry to steer things off a little, but is this thread necessary? Aren't we supposed to be getting behind the promotion as a #2 promotion? There has to be something to counter this year's second-rate duplicate of the Kurt Angle or Chris Jericho/HBK feud with John Cena, or the obvious Tyson/Austin knock-off with Bobby Lashley-Donald Trump/Umaga-Vince McMahon. At least Vince Russo is showing some improvements from his disasterous WCW tenure.

Album-Oriented Rock songs are the underrated portion of an artists' resumé. With that being said, which AOR/Deep Cut do you like the best, or think is the most underrated? For me, it's "The Bomber" by James Gang. The James Gang are known more for the Southern-ish driving pop-culture song "Funk #49" and the presence of future-Eagles guitarist Joe Walsh. Allow me to give a blow-by-blow analysis. Sorry if things sound a little like an Amazon review, but... In its 7 minutes, the song features stellar guitar-work and vocals by Joe, as well as some solid drum fills and and solid bass line during the whole medley. The song is not unlike the dynamics of Led Zeppelin, in which the vocal parts resemble "Bring It On Home" with the crunchy guitar riffs. The 4 1/2 minute instrumental medley, which is tacked in between the vocal parts, stand out a lot in the song. For instance, Joe works through some "Dazed And Confused"-ish psychedelia guitar techniques in the first guitar solo, and then after its Hendrix-reminiscent finale, it goes right into a guitar cover of "Bolero" with some neat-o echoing effects in sketchy but cool fashion. "Bolero" goes on for the same length as the first guitar solo. After "Bolero", things shift into a guitar/organ bit called "Cast Your Fate To The Wind" which starts out sounding really buried underneath the drums 'n' bass, but progresses on, and then the part erupts back onto the vocal parts which bring us to the song's end. The effects sound a little crude in the song, yes, but this song is definitely worth a listen. It shows that Joe Walsh could do more than just "Funk #49" or "Rocky Mountain Way" or even "Hotel California". Discuss your favorite AOR song, in addition.

The Debut Album, in reality, kicked more than just a lot of ass. The Debut Album was Led Zeppelin as we knew it; Jimmy Page the influential axeman/genius, the manic Robert Plant, the super (but unoriginal---let's be honest) badass John Bonham, and the well-rounded John Paul Jones all in top-form. Back then, Page was totally new in addition to being a killer guitarist, and Plant could hit all the high notes. "Good Times Bad Times" was the perfect opener. Sure it wasn't satanic or nothin, but it was short and rather modest, and it told us that this was the birth of a new band. The Blues covers really make the album. "You Shook Me" comes off as boring during the first few minutes, but after that, the song is the most distortion-laced Blues mind-fuck that you've ever heard...Far superior to that "Lemon Song'. And even that song, along with the other Blues numbers that they did would be cribbed right off of "You Shook Me". As for every other discussion in this topic; Black Sabbath is indeed more limited than Zeppelin (Not saying that Sabbath is bad in that effect, but Zeppelin has a much more diverse catalog than Sabbath), "When The Levee Breaks" is a wonderful side-ending to IV (Where STH ends Side 1 with the album thrown upside-down with half of the story left, "Levee" has the whole thing coming down into a bloody ending), Led Zeppelin III is folk/experimentation run amuck (but not all of it is bad by any means), and D'Yer Mak'er is far away from being Led Zeppelin's best song.

I still want to know where the hell Squeeze Box and Magic Bus came from. Why not Gimme Shelter and Sympathy For The Devil???

Oooh, "halfwit", eh? Once again: It's all standard for critics of any band that's supposedly less than the Zeppelin standards

Whoa whoa, what the hell kind of thread is this? Neither songs are worse. There are tons of shitty songs that they've put out that make both these songs look like 21st Century Schizoid Man. Try the overrated as hell "Song Is Over", "Goin' Mobile", "Let's See Action (Nothing Is Everything)" or any of the 80s shit excluding "You Better You Bet" and "Eminence Front". Bullshit. You're forgetting about the "Who Are You" album, where they actually renewed their interests in writing music, and it paid off. As sad as they were in the 80s, a couple of good songs at least spawned from that era. Hell, I'd take 80s Who over 90s Rolling Stones any day. All of this is utter bullshit. Magic Bus gets TWELVE minutes on Live At Leeds (a ferocious Live album that could probably only be eclipsed by Deep Purple: Made In Japan in terms of Rock) and gets bashed in this thread, yet Jimmy Page gets praised for, what, 27 goddamn minutes of making stupidass noises on his guitar with a violin bow on BOTH the Live versions of "Dazed and Confused"??? Or James Hetfield and his 20 minutes of chanting "SEARCHAYAAAAHAAANNNNN SEEK AND DESTROYYYY!!!!!"??? Ginger Baker's 17 minute drum-fest on "Toad", a drum solo that John Bonham stole for "Moby Dick"??? I call bullshit. Oh, and I would say that Magic Bus is nowhere near as offensive as "Uneasy Rider" or "Hot Rod Lincoln" so take the spout of bullshit over to that yard.

I listen to a ton of radio. FM: 102.5 WDVE, 93.7 WRKZ (Another K-Rock station). Sirius: A vast majority of the Rock and Comedy stations. Internet Radio: 9412, Generation Rock Radio.

For me, it has to be the one where they're locked out of the house = Early classic.

JimmyHendricks, how are the extra matches? Would you say any of them justify the purchase???

There's still time to book Coach/Edge in a No Disqualification Match in the Main Event.

I agree with the DrVenkman, there's a LOT of garbage this month! Who writes this shit?? (If it's a TSM writer, or a relative of them, please proceed to beat me over the head with a shovel wrapped around barbed wire) HHH/HBK---Bullshit! Trips & Michaels never had a Ladder match! Just a match that happened to involve Ladders. The Armageddon 2/3 Falls match doesn't count. UT/Lesnar---This wasn't a brutal brawl! It just had blading! You could easily wedge this in between HHH/Nash and UT/Bossman. Hogan & Warrior/Slaughter & Sympathizers---It's not a match made in hell if it's not HELL IN A CELL! Jericho/Scorpio/Pitbull/Douglas---First of all, every match with a sick spot garnered an ECW chant, so nearly EVERY ECW match had the fans chanting "ECW". It's a commonplace. You don't hear fans chanting "WWE" or "WCW". If Mr. Big Shot Important WWE Writer Hippy White Trash (Add Powerbomb thru Flaming Table if writer is TSM writer, etc.) can find a match including those chants, THEN I'll have been considered persuaded. Second, it's "E-C-DUB" not "ECW"!! Third, what would Mr. BSIWWEWHWT know about a technically sound match? Well, nothing, because this match happens to include hardcore shit. David Flair & Ms. Hancock vs AWOL & Major Gunns---First of all, NO! Second of all, no mention of the deceased Wall. Shame on you, Mr. BSIWWEWHWT!!! SHAME! Rock/HHH---If they want to include an old-school HHH/Rock encounter, why don't they put their 2/3 Falls match from Fully Loaded '98, or that AWESOME Ladder match from SS'98 instead of this?!! Gobbledy Gooker----NO NO NO NO NO!!! Everybody hated this abortion! It's an embarassment to the company, and RD & Blade have every right to rip it all up to pieces! Rey Mysterio/Ultimo Dragon---They're showing the FIVE MINUTE MATCH FROM NITRO??? FUCK YOU, VINCE! Sincerely, Ultimo and 75% if the Cruiserweight Division. For fuck sakes, get rid of one of the matches, and stick their AWESOME match from one of the PPVs from '96, Slamboree I think on there. What tripe this month is. It'll probably be the best-selling month, though. I guarantee it.

Whoo! Paul London is in 2nd! But holy shit at some of these guys records! Cena's in first due to politics, and politics alone..

There is still the discussion with the Best of Fully Loaded/InVasion/Vengeance DVD. And the Kurt Angle/Benoit 2/3 Falls match NEEDS to be on the DVD. Great match, great angle...

Not nearly as good as the old '99 (Syx)X-Pac-HHH standby of "Your ass is grass, and I'm gonna smoke it!"

Don't put yusself down, Vodka..

All wrong... Here's what's SHOULD be on these DVDs. Kurt Angle's... vs Tiger Ali-Singh (Debut Encounter, Sunday Night HeAT, Feb '99) vs Shawn Stasiak (SurSer '99) vs Val Venis (SMACKDOWN October-ish '99) vs Tazz (RR'00, the Undefeated Streak ends) vs Rikishi (KOTR'00, Kurt becomes Kurt of the Ring) vs UT, HHH, SCSA, Rock, Rikishi (Arma '00, Heck In A Cell Match) vs Benoit (WM X7) vs Benoit (Judgement Day '01, 2/3 Falls Match) vs Stone Cold (Unforgiven '01) vs Hulk Hogan (KOTR '02) w/ Benoit vs Mysterio & Edge (No Mercy '02) vs Big Show (Armageddon '02) vs Lesnar (WM XIX) vs Booker T & Sharmell (SD May '05) vs HBK (Vengeance '05) Fully Loaded, WWE: InVasion of Vengeance For Fully Loaded Disc 1: Fully Loaded InVasion -Rock vs HHH, 2/3 Falls, Fully Loaded '98 -Kane & Mankind vs Steve Austin & Undertaker, Fully Loaded '98 -Al Snow vs Bossman, Hardcore Title, Fully Loaded '99 -Rock vs HHH, Strap Match, Fully Loaded'99 -HHH vs Y2J, Last Man Standing, Fully Loaded '00 -Rikishi vs Tazz, Cage Match, Fully Loaded '00 -UT vs Kurt Angle, Fully Loaded '00 -WCW/ECW (Rhyno, Booker T, DDP, Dudleyz) vs WWE (Steve Austin, Kurt Angle, UT, Kane, Jericho), InVasion '01 Disc 2: Thirst for Vengeance -Kurt Angle vs Stone Cold Vengeance '01 -Chris Jericho vs Rock Vengeance '01 -Stone Cold vs Jericho Vengeance '01 -Hulk Hogan & Edge vs The Anti-Americans Vengeance '02 -UT vs Rock vs Kurt Angle Vengeance '02 -SPWGTT vs Mysterio & Billy Kidman Vengeance '03 -Sable vs Stephanie, Vengeance '03 -Lesnar vs Kurt Angle vs Big Show Vengeance '03 -Matt Hardy vs KANE Vengeance '04 -Benoit vs HHH Vengeance '04 -Kurt Angle vs HBK Vengeance '05 -HHH vs Batista, Heck in a Cell, Vengeance '05 History of the WWE Title, $4.99 DVD showcasing the best of the WWE Title matches from 1992-1993. -Randy Savage vs Ric Flair, WM VIII -Randy Savage vs Ultimate Warrior, Summerslam '92 -Bret Hart vs Yokozuna, Wrestlemania IX -Hulk Hogan vs Yokozuna, Wrestlemania IX -Hulk Hogan vs Yokozuna, KOTR '93

Since Brock was with SD last, he'll go to Raw. Haven't seen HHH/Brock yet, but I hope Brock gets booed out of the arena for the shit that he pulled with the fans before he walked out the door.

Spike Dudley- Man, I'm sad to see him go. Jindrak- I dunno what he's gonna do. Akio- Return of the Jung Dragon!!! Shannon Moore- 1 Count!!! Gangrel- Return of the Vampire Warrior!!! Maven- No. Please. Kidman- X Division. Mordecai- He could tag with Trytan. Aww man, them vs Phi Delta Slam would give us the first ever -****** match ever!

TNA is quickly nearing the end of the road in terms of heel Tag Teams. Here's basically all of the heel tag teams that TNA had since the beginning of the year. Team Canada-- The primary heel tag team today, and an effective one at that. Notable that these guys are the only surviving team of the 2004 X Cup tournament. The Naturals--Turned face. XXX-- Broken up due to XXX/AMW Cage II stipulations. Lance Hoyt & Kid Kash-- Broken up due to Kash getting the pink slip. The N.Y.C-- Buried, then released. The Elite Guard-- Obsolete. The Kings of Wrestling-- Scott Hall facing personal demons, Kevin Nash turned face. Michael Shane & Kazarian-- Broken up due to Kazarian getting the pink slip. Phi Delta Slam-- Sitting on their asses at home. That may not have been every heel tag team, but you get the picture. Who do you suppose could be signed or put together to solve the problem?

I agree. I've already mentioned in my Slammiversary Thoughtzz that they should just do the payoff with BG James/Outlaw, and then let them retire. This is a feud based solely on their past WITH ANOTHER COMPANY. And neither of them have been legit draws since MID-1999. Ron Killings hasn't done anything meaningful since his feud with JJJ last year, and Rey Mysterio isn't bailing on Vince in the near future, so Konnan useless. Let's face it, these guys are done.

Gayest. Movie. Ever. My 10 year old brother, and my 5 year old sister loved it though. God I hope Sharkboy wins. Then he gets exposure, money, and recognition for successfully suing Disney.

It's a shame, actually. Now we only have one surviving TNA Knockout. Ahh well, at least we'll have another capable contender for the Women's Title. Wasn't Trinity a Tough Enough I contestant?

Great! Bring on Russo!!!

TNA has done too many things that were similar to Vince's decisions (D.O.A Poll back at Victory Road, JJJ holding the belt in a period longer than 9 months, Abyss's character), and TNA's supposed to be CONTRASTED from the WWE, right?? I say the ring stays!