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Another thing though, about the Fragile X. My little brother has Autism, and just from the footage I've seen of Daniel, he appeard to have the same look/indifference, etc. except for one piece of footage. When Benoit is hugging his wife after he wins the title, Daniel is seen in the bottom of the frame dancing in celebration, and even that looks kind of awkward. The thing is though, there are no post mordem tests to conclude if he had any of these mental deficiencies, right? He also doesn't hug his Dad back during that footage....he was autistic, or definitely suffering from something from that family of disabilities.

Nancy Grace is pretty interesting tonight....Konnan and Marc Mero so far. They are taking a look at the death of Johnny Grunge as well. I almost have to take a McMahon on HBO esque position of years ago......no one forces these guys to wrestle. There are other ways to make money. I am, however, for Konnan's ideas of regulation, especially when it comes to these guys paying for their own rooms and trans......does WWE pay for flights? I think Larry King's show tonight should get it's own thread, anyone agree?

Can anyone help me find a way to get a personal loan? My credit is essentially bad to non existant, and the only sites I can find that claim to offer such a loan are either scams or they want a membership fee. I'd need a few grand to basically save my apartment, since I am losing a roommate, and he also declined to inform me that he hasn't paid Peco in months as well. I'm even willing to consider other sources......and if the movies have taught me anything, it's that per Get Shorty and Rocky, loan sharks do indeed exist. Any info would be appreciated.

Thanks. It's not life or death or anything. I have a new house to move to, with a few people. i just don't want to give up my sweet beautiful roomy apt directly over a bar. It's going to be heartbreaking.

I don't think so actually. Everyone I know has seemingly had financial difficulty at one time or another.

Thanks man, it's all good advice. I'll look towards these steps after I move though. I do have another place to stay, I just wanted to keep this apt., and to do so it was gonna take a few grand. That's the problem I am having, no one is going to give me a personal loan. And that prosper.com denied me as well.

I understand it perfectly. I'm trapped in a circle of hell. To get credit I have to establish it. I cannot establish it while I have none however.

Thanks for the prosper.com idea, it was a good one, but apparently my credit is too fucked for even that. As far as credit cards, and available credit, I've never even had a card. I know you're wondering, how could my credit be so fucked if I've never had a card, right? I'm starting to believe it's a result of some sort of conspiracy against me. I mean, the only thing I owe is maybe a little over 3 grand on a student loan.

I've really just tried applying online so far, some were banks, yes.

Available credit meaning what? All I really own is a piece of shit car. Yes he was on the lease, it runs out July 15th. Essentially, I just don't want to lose the place, and I need to hold it down myself until I can find a new roommate. I would need it by the 15th at the latest.

I don't have anything to pawn that would cover the several grand I need to make this work.

Renowned expert Mark Fuhrman isn't convinced Benoit committed suicide......just sayin is all..........

How many nights are they going to have this yapping bitch on tv?

Two things: 1. Are we now assuming Benoit was a drug dealer? 2. What time and what channel is the Warrior on tonight?

What just struck me was, Jericho now has this book coming out (yet to be released, correct?) that's gonna talk about what a great guy and great friend Benoit was back in those days, etc. I'm not accusing Chris of damage control or anything, I just think that kind of sucks for him. Too late to edit, etc.

If you go to view his profile on WWE.com, I am pretty sure the last pic taken is a new one.

Can someone repost the link the Chris's tribute to Eddie Guerrero? I'm having trouble finding it.

http://podcast.941freefm.com/wysp1/542389.mp3 Jerry Lawler on the Kidd Chris show out of Philly discusses Benoit, Owen, etc. It starts a little more then halfway through. This was broadcast yesterday afternoon.

Striker's got to be out here to do his fantastic Piper impersonation.

As long as he isn't out here to talk about the sickness.

According to a post on Wrestling Classics, Benoit killed his son with the Crippler Crossface.........no BS..........

I think I am pretty well done with WWE, although to be fair, I hadn't paid close attention since maybe 2002. I'll still attend Indy shows in the Philly area tho.

They really need to keep an eye on the boys right now. Remember after Eddie died, Eugene OD'd like a few days later? Someone may "overgrieve", especially a guy like Edge or Chavo who were close to him.

News hits Harts hard By TODD SAELHOF, AND DAVE DORMER, SUN MEDIA Members of the Hart family wrestled with the sudden, tragic death of Chris Benoit yesterday. Legendary wrestler Bret Hart had to stop and compose himself often when talking fondly of a man considered his brother and friend. "I don't know the details, and I'm not sure I even want to know," said Hart, just hours after learning of the discovery of Benoit's body - along with those of his wife and son - in his suburban Atlanta home. "He was like a family member to me, and everyone in my family is taking it real hard. "It's almost like reliving the whole Owen (Hart) death over again." At a young age, Benoit, an Edmonton native, became a standout among many wrestling prospects who trained in the famed "dungeon" basement of the Hart family home in Calgary. "Chris was always one of the good guys - a straight guy and a hard-working guy," Hart said. "When you list off all the qualities of someone like Benoit, he had a lot of integrity and was a good, family man. "He was really respected and really loved by everybody." Bret's older brother, Ross Hart, a producer and former part-time wrestler, further described the onetime "Canadian Crippler" as respectful, polite and very humble. "We kind of adopted him when he first broke into the business in 1986," said Ross, adding Benoit was a huge fan of Stampede Wrestling and idolized the Dynamite Kid. "He was a quick learner, fast on his feet and had natural strength and agility. "We learned right away he'd be a natural talent." And he's been an outstanding mentor to the next generation of Hart family wrestlers, said Ross and Bret's sister, Diana. That's especially true of the last six months in Atlanta, where Harry Smith (son of the late Davey Boy Smith), Nattie Neidhart (daughter of Jim Neidhart), T.J. Wilson (Nattie Neidhart's fiance) and Ted Hart (Ross's nephew) had been training close to Benoit. "My son Harry and the others have all been talking about all the great plans that were to come with Chris mentoring them," said an emotionally shaken Diana, the former wife of Davey Boy Smith. "And they were all hoping of Bret coming back to have a Hart Foundation wrestling reunion. "This is all really hard to believe."