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Nice, I had Beefcake using the Rock Bottom way before I had ever seen it. He was a heel, so I called it the "Butcher's Knife".

Congrats man, all the luck in the world to ya and to the Sox. Boston deserves it. Especially after all those Celtics championships and with how well the Patriots are doing and all. Bastards............... Seriously though, go Sox.

If that's in the song, it's definitely some of the worst shit Em has ever written.

Using the other two Ultimate Warrior figures and turning them into his brothers, Mega Warrior and the evil Demon! That 3 way feud pretty much never ended, even if they teamed up here and there. Creating a stable for Jake Roberts called the Hellraisers, including the aforementioned Demon, Grim Reaper, the ape Thundercats figure (Bigfoot) and Jimmy Snuka.

Isn't this one of the signs of the apocalypse?

From an interview with Alice Cooper............. "``But that's exactly why I run things by Bob Ezrin. He and I think so much alike that I'll go, `I know I'm missing something here, Bob. What is it?' We came up at the same time together. He was a classically trained kid from Toronto, and we were this sick, theatrical garage band ... Somehow, the two met, and we found he was as warped as we were. But then he could take all that classical training and plug it into what we were doing... ``I'm not the only one. To this day, really good songwriters that are ready to finish an album call me up and go, `Do you have Bob Ezrin's number?' He did it with Jane's Addiction. He did it with The Darkness. He did it with Guns 'n' Roses. I know Axl (Rose, the lead vocalist of G 'n' R) called him up and said, `I want you to listen to (the still-unfinished CD) ``Chinese Democracy'' and tell me what I've got (that's good).' Bob listened to it and said, `Three songs.' This is after seven years (of songwriting). Bob's not going to be a yes man. He's going to go in there and tell you how many (decent) songs you actually have... He's basically taught me everything about how to write a song.''

(antiMUSIC) If you were hoping for a Guns N' Roses Christmas, there is still a remote chance that will happen but we will more likely see the long awaited release of 'Chinese Democracy' in February... if things go according to current plans. antiMUSIC spoke with long-time Guns N' Roses keyboardist Dizzy Reed this week to follow up on an interview he did with Richmond.com last month, which was picked up by some internet music news sites last week, where he said of the release of the album, "They were originally shooting for November, but it may be February now." A lot can change in a month so we asked Dizzy what the plans look like now. He reiterated the November target and February fallback. He told antiMUSIC that the November release still has a remote possibility of happening, but the February release is more likely. However, he said that the only definite answer he could give is that it will "be out soon". Dizzy seems confident in the final product. He told us that he heard a few of the finished tracks recently and they sound great. Meanwhile, Dizzy isn't sitting around waiting for the release. He has spent the past few months touring with his band " Dizzy Reed's Hollywood Bulldozer". During these shows Dizzy and company treat fans to rock classics from bands like Led Zeppelin, Aerosmith, Cheap Trick, The Who, Bowie, The Stones and yes GNR, interspersed with a little humor between songs. The band kicks off another leg of their tour this week on the East Coast (see below). Dizzy is the second longest standing member of Guns N' Roses, he joined the group during the "Use Your Illusion" sessions.

I've only heard "The Rapeover", but it was fantastic.

Eh, not interested in hearing it. Maybe when one of my friends forces me.

I don't feel like getting into any detailed explanation, I'll just give you my list of essential Doors songs, and I'll just say that no matter what genre they tried, they succeeded brilliantly. (album name in quotes) "The Doors": Soul Kitchen, The Crystal Ship, Back Door Man, The End "Strange Days": Strange Days, You're Lost Little Girl, Moonlight Drive, My Eyes Have Seen You, When The Music's Over "Waiting For The Sun": Love Street, Not To Touch The Earth, Summer's Almost Gone, Spanish Caravan, Five To One "The Soft Parade": Shaman's Blues, Wild Child, Wishful Sinful, The Soft Parade "Morrison Hotel": Roadhouse Blues, Peace Frog, Ship Of Fools, The Spy, Queen Of The Highway, Indian Summer "LA Woman": The whole fuckin CD "Absolutely Live": Who Do You Love, Love Hides, Universal Mind, Dead Cats Dead Rats, Celebration Of The Lizard From The Box Set: Who Scared You, Black Train Song, Whiskey Mystics and Men, I Will Never Be Untrue (HIGHLY recommended), Rock Is Dead, Gloria, Poontang Blues, Rock Me, Orange County Suite Also, check out Morrison's poetry album, "An American Prayer". It tells an excellent story using Morrison's words, and features the usual outstanding background from Manzarek, Kreiger, Densmore.

3PW Saturday October 16th, 2004 8PM ECW Arena Philadelphia, PA (Swanson and Ritner Streets-next to Forman Mills) (866) 228-0326 [email protected] [email protected] www.3PWrestling.com For the 3PW Heavyweight Championship The New Champion Chris Daniels defends against the Ex-3PW champion in Joey Matthews. In a Match to determine the Number 1 Contender to the 3PW Heavyweight Championship AJ Styles takes on Chris Sabin For the 3PW Tag Team Titles The First Ever 3PW Tag Team Champions, Slyck Wagner Brown and April Hunter defend against The Pitbulls 2004, in Mike Kruel and Pitbull Gary Wolfe w/Jasmin St Claire Other matches will be announced soon. Tickets are available RIGHT NOW at: Noise Pollution 619 S. 4th St. (4th & South St.) Philadelphia, PA (215) 627 - 7246 Hall of Heroes Cherry Hill Mall Cherry Hill, NJ (856) 662 – 9329 Tony Luke’s Old Philly Style Sandwiches 39 E. Oregon Ave. Philadelphia, PA (215) 551-5725 Carson’s Pro Wrestling World 1313 Linden St. Allentown, PA (610) 770 - 7314 For everyone who is traveling from out of town and looking for an overnight stay. 3PW has special hotel rates. For more info please email [email protected] or call (866) 228 - 0326 for more details. For videos of the past 3PW shows, you can buy them at www.SmartMarkVideo.com

That wasn't any of my boys was it?

A LOOK AT 3PW'S LATEST SHOW, INCLUDING STYLES VS. SCORPIO VS. SABIN by Buck Woodward @ 1:00:00 AM on 10/18/2004 I had the opportunity to check out the latest 3PW effort at the ECW Arena in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania this past Saturday, and was once again treated to a nice variety of styles, put together in a tight, well organized show. The group has a few different storylines running now, as well as having established regular characters, so the matches have more meaning to them, rather than "worker A vs. worker B". One of the greatest strengths of the company, easily, is in the order and pacing of the show, which allows the main matches to have maximum impact, while not letting one bout overshadow another. Here's a rundown on the show, and my thoughts on it. - The Blue Meanie defeated The Rockin' Rebel after hitting Goldust's old "Shatter Dreams" kick to the groin. Nice, short opener with a few comedy spots. This was the beginning of a storyline that would continue later in the evening, as Rebel wondered out loud where his regular tag partner, Jack Victory (who was scheduled, but didn't make the show) was. - The "Sugar Shack" segment was next, with "Sugar Daddy" Tod Gordon. It started with Talia bringing out Tod Gordon and more or less explaining the current storyline (Talia and Gordon, the commissioner of 3PW, are once again aligned, and Jasmin St. Claire is their rival). Gordon announced that Talia would be the special referee for the Tag Team Title match between the champions (and Gordon's hired hands) Slyk Wagner Brown & April Hunter and Jasmin's team of the Pitbulls 2004 (Gary Wolfe & Mike Kruel). Jasmin came to the ring and tried to coerce her way back into Gordon's good graces, but ended up having her skirt yanked down and was tripped in the ring. - As Jasmin ran off, Gordon introduced his "scheduled guest" for the night, 2 Cold Scorpio. Gordon welcomed Scorpio to 3PW, and Scorpio put over that he was planning on winning his scheduled three way match that night and moving on to face the 3PW Champion down the line. They were interrupted by Slyck Wagner Brown & April Hunter (who Gordon had helped win the tag titles at the last show). Hunter wondered why beautiful women like Talia and Jasmin were always throwing themselves at Gordon, and deduced that it must be because of all the power he has in 3PW. April started to come on to Gordon herself, which did not seem to please Slyck. When Brown got on the mic, he got in Scorpio's face, using the classic "You're an old man, step aside for the new generation" angle. Scorpio ended up knocking Slyck out of the ring with a superkick, to the delight of the crowd. The segment seemed to serve a dual purpose of establishing that April is interested in Gordon's power, while at the same time separating Brown from Gordon. - CJ O'Doyle defeated Monsta Mack. O'Doyle is definitely the "homegrown babyface" of 3PW, and surprisingly, he is getting a strong face reaction from the crowd (I say surprisingly, because sometimes it is easier to get cheered in Philly by being a heel). The story of the match was simple, with the larger Monsta Mack tossing around O'Doyle (including a cool spot where he picked up O'Doyle on the floor for a powerbomb, but instead flung him backwards into one of the support beams in the Arena) before CJ scored the upset win. They've been slowly building O'Doyle, and have are doing a good job moving him up the ladder gradually. - Rob Eckos stormed the ring after the last match, and proclaimed that he was going to be taken seriously from now on (he joined with tag partner Matt Striker for a comedy gimmick on the last show). To prove his point, he quickly beat O'Doyle in an impromptu "match" that didn't hurt O'Doyle (since he just wrestled and was not expecting to be attacked), and established that Eckos was now a serious heel ... for now. - AJ Styles won a three way dance over 2 Cold Scorpio and Chris Sabin to become the number one contender to the 3PW Title. The match of the night, it saw all three men go from working a fast paced, high-flying junior heavyweight style, to a stiffer, clothesline and suplex-laden bout, then back to the air again. Sabin was eliminated at the 18-minute mark when Styles hit a frog splash, followed immediately by Scorpio landing a moonsault for the pin. Styles and Scorpio then continued on for another 12 minutes before Styles scored the win with a Styles Clash, to a big pop. Scorpio gave credit to Styles following the match, and both men got a standing ovation. Wisely, they went to intermission at this point, because it would have been hard to top this match. All three men put on a great match, and worked really well together. I have been soured on the "three way" (and four way, five way, etc.) concept lately, but this was a good example of how a three way match can still be exciting. - Following the break, they did a quick comedy bit where Rockin' Rebel didn't know where Jack Victory was, only for Victory to "call" referee John Finnegan on his cellphone to let Rebel know that he was at Cheerleaders (a strip club a few blocks from the arena). A few innuendos and one liners later, Rebel found himself facing Victory's opponent, Roadkill. A very short match (less than two minutes) followed, with Blue Meanie running in and, once again, catching Rebel with the Shattered Dreams kick to the groin to set up Roadkill winning. - The Pitbulls 2004 (Gary Wolfe & Mike Kruel) defeated Slyck Wagner Brown & April Hunter to win the 3PW Tag Team Titles. This match just didn't seem to click, other than the first few minutes of exchanging holds, which was good. Early in the match, they went to the floor, and the crowd was getting into it when Wolfe threw a chair into Hunter's face, and beat Brown repeatedly across the back with another chair. Then they went back to the ring, and started doing armbars, which seemed to sour the crowd to them fast. When the violence is escalated like that, fans are expecting a finish, and they didn't get it. There was definitely some miscommunication on a few spots as well, which didn't help matters. All four have had better matches, to be sure. The finish saw Jasmin knock out Talia (the referee) so Tod Gordon ran in, and ended up counting the pin for the Pitbulls. If nothing else, it did cement that Brown & Hunter were no longer Gordon's favorites anymore. The storyline they are working on establishing is that Talia is with Gordon, but both Jasmin and April are coming on to him because they want his power in 3PW. - One of the trademarks of 3PW was next, as the lights went out, and when they came back on "Strikbu" was in the ring. Matt Striker, who does a gimmick where he imitates other wrestlers, was standing in the ring, pointing to the ceiling, doing his best Sabu impersonation. For his match with Damian Adams, Striker attempted to do many of the Sabu trademarks, but would fail in comedic fashion (since Striker isn't really an aerial artist). He would set up for a Triple Jump Moonsault, then stop to move the launch chair closer to the ring ropes, before inevitably slipping on the ropes anyway. He also incorporated bits of Hakushi, Goldberg (with bald wig), Chief Jay Strongbow, Bruiser Brody, and the Iron Sheik into the match. When he was starting to lose, Rob Eckos ran out, dressed like Bill Alfonso, and blowing a whistle (right into the microphone, amplifying it to ear piercing levels). I guess he isn't done being a comedy act after all. In the end, Striker set up a table (which fell apart, so Strike simply told the crowd "sometimes things don't go as planned") and went for an Atomic Arabian Facebuster on the table, but missed, and Adams got the pin. For the life of me, I can't understand why WWE has never had someone do a gimmick like this. They've sort of teased it with Eugene, but Striker has proven how great it can be (provided the person doing it is talented, which he is). - "Fallen Angel" Christopher Daniels defeated Joey Matthews to retain the 3PW Heavyweight Title. During the early part of the match, AJ Styles came down to ringside and sat down to watch the match. Both Daniels and Matthews, at different points, had words with Styles on the floor. They've done a really great job building their main event program around Styles, Matthews and Daniels, and making you believe that any one of them could win the title on a given night. The finish saw Daniels hit an STO on Matthews, followed by three consecutive "Best Moonsaults Ever" for the pin after a strong 20 minute match. Obviously, the implication afterward was that it would be Styles challenging Daniels for the belt next. Link

O'Doyle beat Monsta Mack before losing to Eckos.

From the book "Sex, Lies And Headlocks" After the Hogan/Bischoff vs. DDP/Leno match at Road Wild 1998............ "The biker crowd partied well into the night at a country music concert that featured Travis Tritt, while the wrestlers retired to the parking lot of a Best Western that had been decorated to celebrate Hogan's 45th birthday party. It was the kind of party that everyone attended-if only because it was good politics to stay on Hogan's good side. Kevin Nash stayed in his room however, brooding. He couldn't get off his mind with the photo in the next day's papers would look like: Leno wearing baggy sweats, pretending to strangle the bug eyed and blad Hogan. It was a giant fuck you to the audience, he thought, a sign that they were all just winking their way to the bank. Though they'd worked together closely, Nash couldn't say he'd ever actually talked to Hogan, that was how distant he could be. But tonight, Nash was determined to have himself heard. So, after showering, he went down to the party and buttonholed the tanned star. They wound up talking for nearly an hour, sitting on the bumpers of parked cars. Nash told Hogan that the show they'd just done was a perfect example of what was wrong with WCW. He understood Hogan's income was heavily influenced by the buy rates of the pay per views he worked on. But no other wrestler could build a following or add to the company's depth as long as Hogan kept using his power to assure that each of the monthly story cycles climaxed with him at the forefront of the action. Hogan listened patiently, more patiently then Nash expected. But at the end of the hour, he concluded, "Brother, what you want is going to cost me money." Nash looked at him. "What could I say?" he'd recall. Hulk after all, was just reciting the code of the boys. So Nash shook his hand and walked away saying, "Okay, dude."

Sorry, being that my computer blew up yesterday, I missed most of the arguments. Anyway, Banky made a comment about some many guys in the "underground" being better then Em. Probably so, but do you remember how respected Em was before "Slim Shady LP" dropped? He was well known in the underground, especially for his ability to freestyle. And yes, "Doggystyle" is great. Definitely one of those albums you can listen to from beginning to end. Does anyone know why newer copies of the CD don't have "GZ Up Hoez Down" on it?

From an email sent by Johnny Kashmere........... "It has come to our attention here at PWU, that CZW owner John Zandig made a very special announcement to the CZW locker room on Saturday. The substance of this adress was basically that PWU is trying to shut CZW down and in turn take food out of everyone's mouths. So, of course, Zandig has now told his locker room in typical Zandig fashion "if you go wrestle for them, just stay there". Well, we at PWU just want to get it on record that we NEVER sent anything to the commission, nor have we made ANY attempt whatsoever at "shutting CZW down". All of our efforts are going towards having a successful company that offers wrestlers another payday, some exposure, and some experience working with different guys. Being accused of underhanded wrestling politics is not unusual these days, but it simply is NOT THE CASE here. We have had plenty of opportunities to hurt CZW and we didnt take them. We were offered the old Viking Hall to run our shows and we declined the offer to run in NorthEast Philly instead. As Zandig attempts to play GOD once again and forbid the loyal wrestlers he has left from making a payday (especially considering thast CZW has some of the lowest wrestler paydays around)....just remember this everyone that wrestled for PWU WANTED TO BE THERE!!! PWU will never use any wrestler as a pawn to make CZW look bad or anything even close to that. Before we are accused of sometihing we absolutely didnt do, please CZW, at least do the legwork to check your facts. If we tried to close CZW down, we would be open about it and shout it from the rooftops....we wouldnt hide and pretend it wasnt us....we have balls. Sorry to bother everyone with this, but it needed to be said. This will be a topic on Radio Unplugged this Thursday, so you'll get to hear this right from the horse's mouth. See you then."

CHECKMATE. No seriously though, I like Thriller. The video is hysterical. The funniest part is where Michael Jackson is on a date with a girl!

I listen to what I know is good. Bottom line. I neglected to mention Mos Def, Kwali, Atmosphere, or Common earlier. My fault. My hip hop/rap knowledge goes alot further then any of you may suspect. But of course, since I disagree with your opinions, you'd rather think of me as a stereotype. Congrats.

I'm pretty sure you even said you weren't really a rap guy. You said Jay is more pop than Em, which makes you cred kaput. Wow, Bop Gun....did you get into Cube on the Family Values tour, fucknut? A lot remember that Chumbawumba song, but that doesn't really qualify them as really "remembered." Everyone knows and in most cases love Michael, the world over. Def Leppard are lame but will always have just their core fans and most people who just remember the one-arm and "Pour Some Sugar On Me". Ricky Martin remembered? Yeah as a joke and maybe when you catch an SNL repeat, you fuckass. I guess a zombie song would be original and creative, considering NO ONE DOES THEM. But even then, correct me if I'm wrong but "Thriller" just vaguely references terrors and other frightful things, but doesn't really mention too much in specific. And the point is EVERYONE knows and will always know about "Thriller" and it could of been written before you were born. And on creativity in terms of subject matter, where's the creatively in a thousand songs about killing mommy because you're a little wiener bitch? I don't think that's a fact at all. And besides, MJ STILL IS RECOGNIZED THE WORLD OVER. Sure JAxl, Mr. Watch-me-beat-up-this-marine. I call bullshit on your whole poser cockfuck image. That's why you bought the Em hype about how he's hardcore and the shit as a lyricist. And When does FOX play videos? "Black Or White" simulcast, is that what you're blabbing of? I hate you, I hate your post shit. Sounds like your agenda against MJ is personal. That does nothing to deplete his achievements made in the field of popular msuic. You're a disgrace. And Coleman and Yother didn't revolutioize the acting game like Mike revolutionized the pop game. What a disgrace again. Billy Ray had one hit, Poison are dust in the wind, NSync were right place, right time now rerouted on the night train to nowheresville. 1. Not a rap guy, but a guy who knows good rap. 2. My point will be totally substantiated when he loses the trial. Go ahead and remember a dirty child molester if you want to. 3. Cool, it would be original. It still doesn't make the subject matter any fucking dumber. Again........fucking zombies. The song about Em's Mom or his girl, they were both heartfelt, and based in reality, and lyrics he wrote on his own. 4. Recognized? Even now MJ being recognized is disgusting being that he fucks (or tries to) little boys. What little talent and big hits he did have..........washed away when he is found guilty. 5. Ok, never said I was going to beat up a marine, that was someone else. 6. In the early 90s, FOX played every new MJ single, "Black Or White" included. A video where he grabs his crotch over and over and smashes car windows. Listen, I like that song, but please. Em does a fake hardass act? "Look at me, I smash car windows!"---MJ 7. I told you the agenda was personal. I don't like him, I don't respect him, blah blah blah. We've been through this already.

Not calling anyone names, and I don't know enough to call you a drunk or question your intelligence. But your argument lost it's momentum with me once you said that because Eminem is bigger right this minute, he's superior or more memorable than Wacko Jacko? By that logic, bands like Good Charlotte or Linkin Park are >> bands like Guns n Roses or Pearl Jam. They both are owning the charts now much more than GnR or PJ are. /nl5 would like to stress that he hates every artist referenced in this post Yeah my fault, it was a stupid point to make. But on the other side of the coin, recognizing MJ as being a great artist because of record sales would be like saying N Sync, Poison or Billy Ray Cyrus were great artists.

Zombies.

Yeah except, I listened to it way before it was made into a video. Nice try though. I never watch MTV, although you guys all fall back on the same insults when God forbid, someone has a different opinion then you. And no one had anything to say about how his best selling album/song was about zombies. Every good point I have made has been ignored, and I keep getting the same sad, tired responses. "JAxl doesn't agree with us! Let's call him a drunk! Wait no.........what about stupid! Yeah, that'll really shake him!" Yawn.

Not a rap guy? I am listening to fuckin "Bop Gun" by Ice Cube right now............ Anyways............. A lot of people didn't figure 2Pac would be remembered either. Or Guns N Roses. Shit, even crap like Def Leppard or Ricky Martin are or will be remembered. Memories are selective, what's your point? Thriller was a song about zombies. Very fucking creative. Let me say it again. Fucking zombies. Zombies. Where's the song about goblins? What about vampires? Blah blah, "MJ is known all over the world where Eminem is not". Yeah, and for years in the 80s, Hulk Hogan was the most recognized American in the world. Your point? I'm not into Eminem because of the toughact either. Songs where he tried to be hardass, like "Superman" or when he got ridiculously out of hand, and based his whole act on talking shit on D12's first album, where he shit on Limp Bizkit or DJ Lethal............crap. I prefer his "deeper" songs, like the ones I mentioned earlier. "Rock Bottom" is especially good. And I do enjoy rap..........good rap. 2Pac, Em, old Death Row, Wu, and Biggie. I do not, however, appreciate shit music because MTV played the fuckin videos, or FOX, or whoever else supported that sick fuck. I hate dance, I hate club shit, and even at his best, all MJ's songs were like that. And the plastic surgery obsessed, child molesting fuck probably didn't even write them himself! Look, if you're gonna defend child stars like MJ (which was the last time he may have bee good) go set up a trust fund for Gary Coleman or Tiny Yothers.

Uh, mind if I ask what suddenly makes you make that choice? It'd be more interesting than this debate. He's a robot. And an uninteresting robot. Bottom line is, tonight, Bush makes more sense, and his answers ring more true then Kerry's have. Kerry's history isn't trustworthy, and his side stepping most questions isn't either. Congratulations John...........you are dumber then a treebranch.