Toxxic

Yeah, that's good stuff Manson.

Good man.

I'm on the MySpace side, and you'd better believe that I don't flake easy. That said, I can pass the password onto others if needed.

Well, apparently me and Landon have smashed your guys Tag Title record by about sixty days, according to Clark. I haven't worked it out myself though.

Vote, bitches.

This is awesome, and I especially like the bit about Snow Demon snowploughs.

I'd probably agree with Landon, if I'm allowed an opinion on this. Stephens would have been in a bad mood and out to hurt someone, and I've always played up the fact that he's perfectly at home outside the ring, so he'd have probably got a bit more offence in.

Johnny, that did help, thank you. Akira, I put the homework thing in to make it clear that we have a wide range of ages in the fed, from whippersnappers still in education to the old guys who actually work for a goddamn living. Honest.

Yeah, but seeing comedy Matt Myers dressing up as (the last time we saw him) the psycho, crazy, neck-snapping, all-serious Spike Jenkins would probably work. I wouldn't like to see Myers run through the whole fed (although Landon's paid him to impersonate Toxxic before, remember), but there's no problem with it for a little variety.

Clark vs Stephens. *Ding-ding* Round Two. ...and I'm all outta bubblegum! Tom, I can mark a match if you need me to.

I'm with Landon - I'd love to help on CC, but the fact I'm in the wrong timezone and work shifts means that I'd only be able to mark matches once every other week, at least without the people writing matches to be marked by me having about six hours less than everyone else to write, with absolutely no possibility of extentions. Also, there's the "conflict of interests" thing, although I hope you all realise that I'm easily arrogant enough about my own abilities to not worry who I face I've never tried to make a MySpace profile at all flashy, so I'm not sure how much help I'd be there. However, I could try and start a group and see exactly how it works.

Someone who knows how to make a flashy profile make a MySpace SWF profile (profile, not a group), put the board address on, then spam-add every fucker who's in a wrestling group.

No. Why should we? Did we move everything when we left IGN? More importantly, do you think TSM will notice that we're gone and close the forums? I doubt it. If necessary a few of us just post here couple times a week to keep them open and accessible.

If we do it over two sites there's always the risk something gets missed. Supposing you want to contact someone, do you contact them on their TSM account or their MySpace one? Maybe they'll check one more than the other. Do we post everything twice in case people miss it on one forum? I really, honestly think that if it's possible to do, we should up sticks and move because people are more likely to be interested if they can do it all on one site, and don't have to keep track of two at once. I'm sure of this. I mean, if it turns out that posting a show and stuff is simply NOT viable on MySpace's forums, then I'll relax my views on this. As it is, I don't necessarily see why it shouldn't be. People have said it'll be a problem, but no-one's told me WHY.

That's bollocks, pardon me saying so. We've already established that the roster as is won't cut it, both in size AND commitment. What we NEED is new people, and we're more likely to get them elsewhere, and MySpace has the sort of traffic which means we should still get a fairly high amount of interested people simply through the sheer volume. Maybe they'll show. If they DO show and they beat no-showing veterans, maybe that'll encourage them to write more? I know one of my major motivating factors when I started was that I was kicking arse, and I did that mainly by showing when other, more experienced and established writers didn't. So maybe some regulars get a kick up their arse when they lose to n00bs. Maybe we get a new crop coming up and just displace the old, non-showing regulars. Either way, the fed's re-energised in a better way than just sitting around and going "well, until us dozen writers get better we don't want to try and get anyone else involved".

Judge - you want to say to these people "come join our fed, but you've got to come to this other website and create a new account to do it", or you want to say "come join our fed, look, it's here, you don't need to leave MySpace"? That's a no-brainer, surely.

When I say 'spam' I mean targetted marketing in a big way. As in, we don't just spam anyone, but find people who list wrestling as a major interest and who preferably have some grasp of written English. Hell, we could even divide it up so people don't get pissed off with us repeatedly spamming them so, for example, I'd contact people in the UK, Tom would contact people in or near New York, and so on. I'd envisage one profile being the SWF Profile, which would be created on a new email address with the password given to anyone on CC. So that profile is the Forum Leader, and that profile could potentially contain a lot of the fed info (joining, etc). A bulletin sent out by the SWF profile would reach all members of the fed, which could be a handy feature. Then everyone else has a profile for their character. The character stats could go in the 'About Me' part of a MySpace profile. The SWF Profile posts the card on the forum (and maybe bulletins it as well) and you go to your MySpace friends and click on your opponent to check their stats haven't changed. As someone (I think Divefire) said, we're good at this match-writing thing, so it's only reasonable to expect that n00bies would not be as good because even the newest of us have at least a year of practice (except Herzog and Nighthawk I guess, but Herzog seems to have disappeared and Nighthawk's not active for now, at least). However, if we get a reasonable influx there's no reason why we can't have a JL equivalent, or a Rookie Title, or something like that.

Yeah, but if WE all read and talk together on this one subject, there's no problem right?

I've got to say, if someone won't show for one character I doubt they'll show for three, even if they're only writing one at a time. Plus that leads to the uneasy situation of some characters can never be booked against each other. I mean, for a little while i was writing as Mike and/or Amy as the situation dictated, but although they were both wrestling in the same 'division' (unlike the short-lived Women's division), they'd never face off due to being brother and sister. But supposing I was to start writing as Mike and TORU, it's likely that at some point logic would dictate they'd face each other - at which point either we'd bypass logic, or I'd just decide who I wanted to win. SOMEBODY PLEASE READ THIS IDEA AND GIVE ME FEEDBACK ON IT BEYOND SNARKY COMMENTS. Seriously - MySpace. There are FIVE HUNDRED groups devoted to wrestling on there. And yes, some are for amateur wrestling. And some are for 'gay wrestling for men'. And there's a Shawn Michaels fan group. But for pity's sake, there are THOUSANDS of people on there talking about wrestling, some of them have got to have some brains, and some of them can surely be persuaded to try a new challenge. Let's take this to the extreme - we MOVE the fed to MySpace. We set up the SWF group and use that as the forum. We spam-add every fucker we see who can write English wot doznt lok like it woz writen by sum tottal m0r0n and see what happens? I mean, I'll say now that I for one am never going to link my REAL MySpace profile to anything involving e-fedding, because I have my pride. But I'd create an account that I'd use purely for MySpace. We're looking for a site with traffic, and MySpace tells me there is in excess of ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY FIVE MILLION active accounts on there. That's something like twice the total population of the British Isles. That's TRAFFIC. Anyone with me on this as a possibility?

I suppose the other point is that anyone who might be coming in to join will come to this board, read this thread and go "oh well, they're closing in a couple of months, I won't bother". Which is kind of counter-productive. But I also agree with the importance of setting a definite date for where it'll end if we don't turn this thing around.

*reels Akira in* Thank you for biting. Come again.

NON-TITLE MATCH Gabriel Drake© vs Ricky Barbosa ~One of them might show, I suppose. If one of them does, my money's on Mak. SWF INTERNATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP #1 CONTENDERSHIP Alan Clark© Vs Michael Stephens ~If anything, I'm more certain Clark will show for this than I am certain that I will, and since I've got over 5k, that's saying something. HARDCORE CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH Insane Luchador Vs Jimmy the Doom © ~I think IL should win, but odds are Drea takes it again. IN THE HOUSE OF MARVELOUS: Landon "La Cucaracha" Maddix! HARDCORE MATCH Matt "Insert Gimmick Here" Myers (with James "Insert Adjunct Gimmick Here" Matheson) vs. Zyon ~Blank. He writes, he wins Hardcore matches. TAG TEAM ACTION JJ Johnson and MANSON vs. Asia Underground (Michael Cross and Akira Kaibatsu) ~If Blood & THUNDER writes, they win. If they don't... well, Asia Underground win if they write, I guess. SINGLES MATCH Johnny ‘the Barracuda’ Dangerous Vs Calvin Szechstein ~Johnny NON-TITLE SINGLES MATCH Wildchild© vs Zack Malibu ~Wildchild Yeah, I know the predictions are depressing around showing and stuff but... well, that's the way it is. People aren't showing. It's hardly a case of who the better writer is, it's a case of who'll get a match in. Come on, prove me wrong.

Real Name: Michael Brooks Characters Portrayed: Toxxic/Michael Stephens, Jet, TORU Takahara, Amy Stephens In SWF Since: The show after 2004 Clusterfuck Real-Life Height: 5'11 Real-Life Weight: 12.5 stone, which i think works out at about 175lbs Real-Life Age: 25 Real-Life Location: Nottingham Picture: Education: University degree in Communication Studies. Don't ask me what it was. Accomplishments Outside of SWF: Hmm... promoted young original bands in my hometown for a couple of years, have played guitar and sang in a couple of my own although never to any great point, currently work with the homeless and run/DJ at a gay clubnight that plays alternative music rather than cheesy pop shit. Favorite Band: At the moment? Probably Rise Against, although they fight off severe competition from Therapy?, the Wildhearts and Bad Religion. Favorite Song: 'Sunny In England' by 3 Colours Red. Favorite Movie: Fight Club Virgin? Explain.: 18, first and so far only girlfriend, still with her 7 years later. Accomplishments Within SWF: Read my signature. In terms of sheer achievement I'm one of the most successful ever, although how much is due to my talent and how much is due to a weaker fed these days is open to debate. Favorite SWF Moment: Dunno, to be honest. My favourite moment for me was realising I'd beaten Tom at G7. Favorite SWF Writer (All-Time): Kibs was great, no doubt. But I'll go with Taamo. Favorite SWF Writer (Current): When he's on, JJ is great. However, I think I'll give the nod to Landon. Why You Joined The SWF: I asked Dace what the banner in his footer was, he told me, I thought it sounded interesting. I joined up and Wildchild asked me if I realised I had to write matches. Three years later, I hope he's satisfied with the outcome

There's an e-wrestling Wiki, believe it or not. You can find it here E-wrestling wiki and I've done a basic page for the SWF (basically some of Guide To Joining. Maybe later we can add a kayfabe history (only very basic, with the main event stuff and things like Clan/Carnival/Mag7), and it might spark some interest. You can find it by doing a search for 'Smartmarks', but so far I know very little about Wikis and can't work out how to get it put into the 'federations' category, anybody who can feel free to do so. I think one thing that might be worthwhile is trying to tap up people who write matches for other feds, but how we'd go about that I'm not really sure.

Firing you for inappropriate behaviour but not telling you what was inappropriate for a month seems a little wrong to me. Is that allowed?