theintensifier

Yes to both. I've toured a level 5 through 1 prison, and my dad has been a guard since 1989.

Who is Ann Coutler and Dobbs? Damn, you guys can keep up with the name changes so much better than me, probably because I don't care much. Also, what's wrong with eating pussy these days? And regarding Miss Coutler, how is she exactly "agreeing" with me? I don't recall saying we shouldn't do anything about the genocide in Durfur.

Besides from the ridiculous amount of name changes, child like drawn picture, tongue in check dry sarcastic humour, flooding topics with illogical non-sense, no. There are people (on this board and probably real life) here much worse than yourself. Who are you at the Pit? Probably some one I've said something nice about.

Ah. Even though I post frequently at the Pit, I don't know much about MikeSc. The only people there I some what pay attention to is Meat and Vyce.

No. But I would ask why you'd call me a pussy, though. And then ask "would you really care if I did put you on ignore?".

Yeah, the Pit has that effect on people.

Hah, because that's what I said, right? I was simply saying that if they diminished the problems in South Africa, they could establish a coalition of forces and reclaim their continent.

1. How can't I take it? Its just annoying when posters like Eagle Man (or whoever he really is, its impossible to keep up with all of the name changes) flood a topic that was having a good discussion with his idiotic attempts to insult the people actually contributing to this thread. 2. I quote as much as any other person on this board, and the only reason I've had to quote so much was due to my tardiness from the thread. 3. How are my responses exactly weak? 4. And you don't? You're always the first one to jump down someone's throat when they lack the necessary seriousness in a topic. I like to have a some what serious conversation in this folder, which is its purpose, and posters like Eagle Man need to stick to the CS where their bullshit is appreciated.

Were you attempting to make yourself look like an ass? If so, you did a damn good job of it.

Releasing 10% of the prison population wouldn't be a good idea. In theory, yes it would be a good idea, however, the courts would be overran with lawsuits (the inmates would be bitching because they didn't get let out, but the other inmate who did the same exact crime was released). Does anyone agree with deterrence being used more than incarceration?

1. I do think they deserve to be locked up if they have an extreme amount of it, like Nate Newton a few years back. 2. ?

Hey fuck you guys. Don't lump me in with them. I was being serious. I was too.

I don't agree with any of those. However, I think we need to find a different solution instead of just incarceration. I'm not trying to come across like those you've mentioned, I just enjoy a somewhat serious type of discussion. I don't think that's true, but whatever. Oh, and I meant they're right, I should take this fear of vigilante justice seriously. I'm packin' heat already. No, we yell and scream and get mad until he digs himself deeper. That's pretty cable news to me. Again with the unnecessary sarcasm. I'd like to hear your suggestion on this problem though.

That is so awesome. QFT QFT Parents don't own their MySpace account, which last I checked, was free. That's essentially what privacy entails, yes. One of the biggest problems of adolescence is sexual suppression by society. The teenage years are the time when sexual energy is at its height. Why should it be repressed? Let's see, their physiology cannot handle the stress of sexual intercourse, nor do they know how to properly protect themselves effectively, teenage pregnancy (were #1 in that area by the way), sexually transmitted diseases, etc. Yeah, that's why. Exactly. Most schools don't allow anything of merit to be taught in sexual education. You could have a Marine Corps Drill Instructor screaming in a kids face, but the moment he turns his back, you know what's going to happen. Hah. Yeah, sex education is going to help the African nation, you know, since the men actually pay the hookers more for unprotected sex, and/or rape an average of 147 women daily. Sex education will help out tremendously. Are you fucking serious? If that is true......jesus christ.

Yet you get annoyed when theRE is a lack of seriousness as well. But of course we are, and you aren't. You still didn't post anything or worth, or have any ideas of your own. How typical.

Only at TSM would someone propose locking a rapist in a room with a mixed martial artist. In addition to beating up rapists in solitary confinement, Chuck Liddell is also available for proms and pizza parties. We'll build Thunderdomes in each state. Yeah, mock away and don't contribute anything else to the topic.

The comments people made help this picture a lot. Seems like a few TSM members have left some comments.

The only reason capital punishment isn't working is because the chances of getting that sentence is so absurdly low, and it takes nearly 15 years to actually be put to death. The level of deterrence I created would happen to any and all individuals who broke the law, doesn't matter if you're a billionaire or not. What I suggested is definitely outrageous yes, but more so than our current means of punishment?

This argument, used by many in this thread, could be used to fit any punishment for any crime. Let's say we make the penalty for jaywalking death by stoning... "Well, it's fucked up, but you know that's the penalty so if you jaywalk you have it coming." It makes sense as ridiculous as it is. Its like putting your hand in a fire even though you know its going to hurt and burn the piss out of you. Its quite idiotic to go against something like that, if you know the consequence and go ahead and do it anyway, it just defies all logic. Workcamps yes, and executions on a certain level (murders/repeat rapist/drug smugglers) Eric, you're a pretty knowledgeable guy, but you don't have a clue about the prison system. The inmate to officer ratio in the prisons in my state is at least 15-30/1. Have you ever tried watching 15-30 at one time? Controlled if you mean that the inmates allow the guards to "control" them, then yes. The United States leads ALL countries in incarceration, a stat we shouldn't be proud of in the least. The answer definitely isn't being locked up, because the number of incarcerated continues to grow larger each and every day. There has to be something else we can do. *It wouldn't allow me to post it all at once, my bad.*

I actually know a guy who has 3 DUI's.........he has court dates and such and doesn't know if he's going to prison or not. Yes a DUI is stupid and he should have his liscense taken away for a long time but I'm not sure he should get some long prison term......he could just get house arrest which seems more in line for what he should get. Obviously the punishments he's already endured through the other two DUI's did absolutely no good for the guy you know. Again, he's a habitual law breaker that deserves jail/prison time - not being raped. Even someone who's in for rape themselves? Dont believe in an eye for an eye? The days of Hammurabi have long since passed, and even though it'd be nice to make the person suffer for what they have done by having it done to them, it would make us just as bad as them. I'm probably alone on this, but I think those people just need a good fine tuned attitude adjustment - meaning, you place the rapist in a room with no windows, a camera (so everyone can see what happens to a rapist), and only one door, and then you let in a man like Chuck Liddell and let him adjust the rapist attitude for him. Yes, its breaking the law, but it would be a very effective way of deterring someone from raping another human being.

http://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/prison/report.html#_1_2 This guy's crime...a DUI. That could easily have been someone I knew from college. We have a major human rights disaster going on right this moment in prisons here in the United States. Now if this guy was a brutal murderer or a child molester, I wouldn't have all that much sympathy for him. But we have a lot of people in prison here for fucking weed. And they're being subjected to this shit. I am not condoning the fact these men / women are being raped in prison, but it does take at least three DUI's or a certain poundage of weed to land yourself in prison. A person is given at least three chances to correct his behavior, and I don't feel sorry for an individual that cannot learn from his mistakes and gets locked up in prison. Does he / she deserve to be raped? No. Its a unfortunate that these people have to endure years of this punishment. Pretty much, yeah. That is a horrible overreaction. Yes, a person driving under the influence is a person who is increasing the chances of killing someone or themself, however they certainly do not deserve to be raped. People like you would be singing a totally different tune if you were in that man's shoes. Well said. Its very logical - if you commit a crime you will serve time. A fairly simple concept to understand. Vast overreaction. There's a tremendous difference between a DUI--a misdemeanor that results in no harm being done to another party--and, say, vehicular manslaughter resulting from a DUI, a felony in which a victim dies. Drunk driving is retarded and people should be punished for it, but there are obvious degrees that you have to take into account as with any crime. I don't know what this guy's particular case is, but that's a dangerous generalization to make. On the main topic, U.S. prisons are overcrowded, poorly managed warzones. I don't know what we do about that. I'm currently going to college to become a state corrections officer, and we had the opportunity to talk to a recently released inmate. He served in the Marine Corps, and served in Iraq during the beginning of the conflict, and he said that he'd rather fight in downtown Fallujah then spend one night in the level 5 state prison he was sentenced to. Our country is obsessed with incarceration. I believe that is the wrong philosophy to have in this day. We've simply created a new problem, our prisons are grossly overcrowded and cannot support a large enough staff to observe / watch all the inmates they house. Our country needs to get back to deterring criminals instead of simply locking them up. In foreign countries, if you are found shoplifting, you'll get your hand cut off. That generally deters most individuals from commiting that crime, because uh...your hands are somewhat important. Should we take it that far, not necessarly, but things like public humiliation and caning might serve a greater good than tightly confining hundreds/thousands of men who have nothing to lose. I'm not really sure if there really is a solution to this problem, I think what I suggested was a good idea.

Well said, sir. (you know a thread has jumped the shark when theintensifier gets involved) There's no need sarcasm (even though I was pointing out the obvious), and I'm not the same person I was a few years back even though I retain the same reputation. Because I don't think its necessary to focus just on Darfur, because if the other problems were solved, I honestly think most of the conflicts in Darfur would subside enough for a coalition of forces to be able to re-claim and maintain Darfur. And to be honest, I didn't really know the full extent of the very really crisis in Darfur, but I was well aware of the crisis all throughout Southren Africa. bigolsmitty - In a totally hypothetical situation, you are granted the power to make an executive decision regarding the Darfur situation, what would you recommend? Thank you.

Although this is sadly true, can you honestly say you are surprised? Its easy to say we don't care, or whatever, but ask yourself a simply question: Why should we as American's care about Africa? - What is there to gain if we get involved? - That's how things work, people generally have enough to worry about in their own personal life and don't have the thought nor the care about something that does not effect them directly. Is that a good way to live your life? I'm not going to say yes or no, but I will say this, you cannot save everyone, and not everyone can be saved. Of course you don't. Its always easier to sit back and say "Hey, you should help." I don't blame you in the least. I would like to help out over there, simply because I have compassion for other human beings, but the thing that has, and will always stop me dead in my tracks is the major problems in the country. Africa has already been lost, the AIDS crisis is nearly twenty years out of hand, rape is a daily thing (research shows that 147 women are being raped on a daily basis in South Africa - http://www.rapecrisis.org.za/rape-statistics.asp), crime is out of this world bad (According to a survey for the period 1998-2000 compiled by the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, South Africa was ranked second for assault and murder (by all means) per capita, in addition to being ranked second for rape and first for rapes per capita. Total crime per capita is 10th out of the 60 countries in the dataset. Other data rank South Africa second in the world for murders per capita and first for assaults and rapes - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_South_Africa). I just honestly think Africa is too far gone for any type of help of any kind. And regarding the United States not having to be the World's Police is absurd. No one else is willing to do it, or going to do it. Face it, the United States is on its own. I somewhat agree with what you say hear, for a couple of reasons. 1. We as a country cannot possibly strech our military any farther than it already is without putting our own country at a tremendous and unnecessary risk. 2. We cannot fund such an operation that it would take to truly help out the crisis in Africa. 3. America has its own major problems right now, including the inability to protect our borders, and the homeless in our own country (3.5 million people, 39% of them children, currently experience homelessness every year. 60% of all new homeless cases are single mothers with children - http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4305.htm) 4. Africa does have a government, and a military - they have the available resources to reclaim their country but do not take advantage of said resources, they allow their country to be devasted by diseases / murder / rape / drugs. As much as I'd like to help, it'd be pointless, because in all honesty, the people of Africa are destroying themselves at an alarming rate. 5. No matter what good we did accomplish in Africa, people still wouldn't be happy with what would really happen. It would turn out to be a small war with high casualties on probably both sides. - I don't agree with the fuck Africa part, and I am not racist, I just think this situation is uncurable. No other country in the world is self-centered None! QFT. Bottom line, Africa is too far gone for any help that might come from the United States, and IT WOULD turn to violence very quickly. Many American soldiers would die, and in return, kill many African's. If there is a answer to this situation, it'd take a miracle of God to find it, and then use it.

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