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People would know instantly if he silently owned it--c'mon.

You seem to be missing the point. Any company with him as owner is not going to profit.

He has been friends with these people for years, I don't see any reason he would try to drag them to the ground. Like I said, there is nothing left for him to gain as owner of RFVideo and Ring Of Honor.

"ROH is nothing without rf" is grossly unfair, since the vast majority of work is done by Gabe, Doug, and everyone else. Their DVD deal is entirely independent of him, as an outside company makes DVDs for RoH, not Rf Video. Doug Gentry works for ROH, and he's the main video editor--RF leaving won't make him lose his skills. The only thing rob has that they would need to go on without him is those cameras. If it comes down to that, there are enough rich ROH fans I know that would help donate enough to at least help buy the equipment. Rob isn't going to make anymore money as owner of RF--he should take money from the sale, move to another country, get a new job, whatever. His life as rob feinstein, wrestling promoter, is over, and unless he wants to drag everyone else down, he will sell.

Admittedly though Ray, that was an overrun, not an entire segment.

Also, PJ is doing everything it can to get venues to cancel RoH while RF is the owner. It's going to be tough getting places to run with him in charge. He needs to realize that he's not going to make anymore money as owner of RoH, and it's time to sell the thing, if he cares at all about Doug, Gabe, and the workers.

It's a way people try to make it sound worse. If Rob sells, the stigma will stay with them for a while, but they will be able to get through it with a bunch of great shows. If Rob stays, they're done.

BPS, honestly, you're talking out of your ass. I've heard from multiple people that they are scrambling to completely disassociate ROH from Feinstein, and are scrambling to get a notorized letter to prove it to the owners of the Rexplex, in order to be able to run their show on 3/13. These issues can't be solved in a day, and saying that he resigned was just a way of telling people that he's leaving before anything was made official, as far as I see it.

As opposed to the 6 out of 10 guys in this match that will get no reaction from the crowd. Right.

Honestly, if the in-ring action is great, the booking doesn't need to be anything more than average. Just go with the basics in booking, and give people tons of action.

Something about RFVideo and RoH before I go to class. Currently, the guys who make the videos are Doug, and a few interns. The only thing RF supplies is the expensive cameras. Everyone who makes the videos is already on the RoH payroll, so they would easily be able to make videos themselves and sell them, if they could find a way to buy Rob's cameras from him. In addition, their DVDs are made by an entirely seperate company. And I just looked at that statement, and it looks like RF is not closing..

He is definitely damn good. AmDrag is head and shoulders above everyone right now, but he's only in America part time. Styles should only keep getting better, too. About 2 years ago, he was the most overrated, worthless spot machine on the indies, too.

No...first of all, nobody knew, and second of all, by buying the tapes you were keeping the best promotion in the US alive. Apparently RoH will now be doing their videos in-house, so you'll be able to buy from them directly, and not RF, if this is all true.

Oh c'mon, don't try and associate Gabe with this. He is happily married. This is great news for me, since I have always disliked RF, but think Gabe is great. RF has been the driving force behind "worked-shoot" angles, something they can hopefully now eliminate.

Not to mention Japan.

Terrible news for wrestling fans, good news for parents. That's about all I have to say on this. Gabe spun things in a positive fashion, saying Rob's personal life has nothing to do with RoH, and they're about to maybe set a new attendnace record again at 3/13. A little known fact is that Rob is only part-owner, so he can't just shut RoH down. Gabe said no shows are being cancelled, but we'll see. Here's to hoping Rob sells his share in RoH to gabe, or at least takes a hiatus for counseling of some sort.

Why do you doubt they would pay Luger $2,500 for that? They paid Terry Funk $5,000 for EACH of his short tag matches. $10,000 down the drain for nothing...

Lex Luger is old, and sucks. I can make that comment without seeing TNA this week, and it will be perfectly valid, because everyone knows this is the case. If you have to watch TNA to figure out whether or not Lex Luger sucks, I wonder if your opinion is valid.

I'd rather him not do it at a show being headlined by a 3-way thanks to political bullshit.

You're still missing the entire point of the problem with Borash's column. He's doing exactly what he and Bob did on WCW Live. There would be hundreds of criticisms on WCW, but they'd find one they could discredit, and try to lump all similar opinions into it. All he needs now is a radio show where they can defend god-awful shows. If I see wresting results, and it's a bunch of matches that look terrible, I'm not going to watch, and I'm still going to know that the show was shit. If Don Harris and Ron Harris have an ironman match scheduled, I know it will suck without seeing it. When I read results and see Jarrett completely dominating a show, and sucking the life out of it, I know it will suck, and then I download it, and yep, it sucks! When I see results, and no matches get decent time at all, I can validly complain about short matches without seeing the show, because no match going over 12 minutes remains a fact, whether you've seen it or not.

It is perfectly valid, because he reads recaps of exactly what happens. He knows what is going on with the promotion, and is familiar with it, without watching the show. Just like I can say an Indy show looks terrible, and why, by looking at results, he can do the same.

It's not the end of the conversation. You cannot discard a valid criticism of the show because a guy who didn't watch made it. The criticism remains valid, TONS of people who watch it weekly say the same thing. MKJ and Buck Woodward, who both watch the shows, made similar criticisms, but now Borash can just dismiss them as invalid because Scherer made them without watching the show. If someone who didn't watch Russo's WCW in 2000 because it was so terrible did a column pointing out exactly why it was terrible, right on the money, it would be perfectly valid, because the points are correct. Nothing like deflecting an argument by attacking the source.

This thread is unbelievably retarded. Almost as retarded as discarding valid criticism of the product that regular watchers constantly make because a nonwatcher made them. Almost.

The Corino-Hart heat started wayyyy before all of this, as Corino has called Teddy Hart a goof in the past, before the RoH show. Then after the RoH show, he ripped Teddy a new one in his journal, and then Teddy challenged him to a fight. Then MLW came along, and started making an angle out of it, but it fell apart. I do think the "fight" with Punk was a work to re-stir up interest, since all of these different stories coming out of it make no sense at all. If you'd pay attention to facts, you'd know that Teddy's shoot interview was scheduled before the fight occured at TNA, making things even more suspicious. The promotion of this interview started a few days before the TNA thing happened.

We jumped down their throats because it was yet another lame attempt to play off something that happened in a different promotion, as opposed to, you know, thinking of storylines of their own.