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Pro wrestling is entertainment, not a competitive sport. Therefore, the best wrestler IS the one who is most successful. I judge workrate as the ability to get the most of a crowd and bring in more spectators for the next show based on the time you're given to perform. "Work" does not mean 'technical marvel' or 'amateur shoot skills', it refers to your entertainment of the crowd and ability to bring in box offices. Thus, someone like Hogan, odd as it sounds, is a better worker than most great technical wrestlers. If the crowd buys into the 3 moves, that's their own problem and you're in the minority. He's did his job better than any other wrestler in the history of the sport. ______ BTW, about Sabu. PWI, in 1995 and 1996, as silly a magazine as it could be, had their polls. They were usually pretty accurate about the state of the business, and put over great technicians like Malenko and Benoit, and paid respect to foreign talent like Kobashi, Liger, Misawa, and Mysterio. It was 1995 that their mid-year poll, rigged or not, ranked Sabu as the #1 Best Wrestler in the World, followed by Rey Mysterio and Liger.

Helms, Pitbulls, Finlay, Kennedy, Vito, and Booker would go over if the Writing Team has any intelligence. I'm supremely confident that the first 5 will go over, as they're all facing jobbers or lower midcard acts. But if you go heel, heel, heel, heel, heel, and then heel, that'd be kinda weird. Any cards in which a heel won every match? (at least 6 bouts) Not that this card looks good at all, but with what they have, that should happen. EVIL SMACKDOWN! I'm pissed that I didn't read the spoilers, I waited, and just saw that it's pre-empted in Philly.

Fit Finley has never drawn or been in any major program in his career. Come on. It's a work. His ability to wrestle stiff, believable matches doesn't mean he's the best worker. Hogan has more locker room marks and followers than haters. I think he wins. Just for the money he has put in people's pockets and what he did for the sport I'd say he would probably get the vote. Flair, Sammartino, Andre, Austin, and Rock would follow.

I think Fertig the Vampire would be super over if he fought John Cena. He could hold a mirror up during the match, look into it, and do the "You Can't See Me!" shtick before hitting Cena with it. _________ I've seen the Bashams carried by the likes of Eddie Guerrero, Rey Mysterio, Booker T, and Chris Benoit and it is my belief that they are both terribly boring and will not amount to anything in front of an ECW crowd, much like their failure of a WWE run.

One of the Wizard awards in the Marvel comics in 2003 was: "Best Moment in Comics", with one of the nominees being "Captain America lays out The Hulk"

I started reading comics again this month. I'm really digging The Civil War. It's totally not being any type of cliched crossover story. __________ Captain America in New Avengers #20 is just awesome. The art's a bit shaky, but the writing's pretty good. It should be said that Cap usually bores me to tears, and I loved reading him here. Non-Spoiler awesomeness: A) When he tells a certain hero "You once asked me what the difference was between wartime fighting and what superheros do. You're about to find out." B) Something he does at the end of the story to said hero. __________ That Wolverine issue with Nitro is the drizzling shits. From the ridiculous concepts stated above in the spoilers to the horrible art. Awful. __________ X-Factor is AMAZING. Great writing, pretty decent art. It's got lots of little, intelligent things that make you smile, and really seems to be an IMPORTANT book, especially involving House of M mysteries and The Civil War. Plus, if you've read #8, you know the shits about to hit the fan big-time. __________ Newest Amazing Spider-Man. Ron Garney's art is terrible and does not suit Spidey at all. Good read, lots of "What kind of fallout...?" things for Spidey in the future, I guess. He's not 17 anymore, get over it. __________ Ultimate Spider-Man #95-96. I like this book somewhat. Not these issues, though. For the most part, Ultimate X-Men has been easily the better of the two books, getting BETTER with time after a slow start. Spidey's been the reverse. From a great origin and beginning where great characterization and such were developed to sloppy art, stupid concepts (The Morbius Arc was HORRIBLE), to ideas with promise that I found to be WAY over-hyped (Venom storyline), Ult. Spidey needs a big kick in the BUTT ASAP. __________ As mentioned, picked up Ult. Spider-Man's #32-39 at a shop for $2 each. Hyped but a little dissapointed by the Venom arc. __________ X-Men came out this week. Epilogue to the "Blood of Apocalypse" arc. Nothing major here, especially with all the creative team shakeups coming next month. At least they're fixing the WORST LINEUP EVER in Uncanny (Bishop, Rachel Summers, Psylocke, Crawler, Cannonball) somewhat for the Shi'Ar story. God, they take everyone I HATE and lumped them all together in one book. Seriously. Even Cannonball has just been an awful character ever since Meltdown left him and he fought Gladiator in, I think, 341. Anyway those were my thoughts. Nothing big from DC I wanted.

"so I was stunned" Mission accomplished.

For those of you saying "Holiday Show" and saying it won't be historic or important: Wasn't the "Superkick Heard Round the World" that started WWE 2005's biggest feud of the year on...July 4, 2005?

I noticed this as well.

If it ends with Kane standing on a briefcase at the end of SummerSlam... "The case. Is closed." Buyrates will sore for Unforgiven.

For weeks, Imposter Kane has easily kicked Kane's ass, embarassing him on Raw, and pinning him clean at the Vengeance PPV. So Kane fought Randy Orton on Raw tonight. During the bout, Imposter Kane came out and tried to attack Kane. This time, Kane easily kicked his ass. He dominated him. _________________________ Intelligent Theory: The masked Imposter Kane that came out during the Kane/Orton match is the Kane that has been wrestling on WWE TV since he was unmasked by Triple H. The Imposter Kane that got his ass kicked tonight was the Kane that LOST last night on the PPV. _________________________ Clues: A) Jim Ross, as Kane was kicking the so-called "Imposter Kane"'s ass, mentioned, "Where was this last night?" Meaning how could Kane so suddenly be able to dominate Imposter Kane like this. B) When Imposter Kane was unmasked, he immediately covered up his face and ran. C) Imposter Kane has the same shaved head look as the so-called Kane. D) Kane, after removing the mask, stated "I think this belonds to me." Since when has the unmasked Kane ever cared for his mask? If ANYTHING, he should want to stay away from it, since it's been tormenting him. __________________________ Thus: Kane and Imposter Kane are twin brothers. But that's not a big enough secret to torment Kane, right? So... Thus: Imposter Kane is the real Kane who debuted for the WWF. He's been taunting Kane, the FAKE Kane, about "they're all going to know!" Kane claims he knows who he is and you'd "never understand". Now the real Kane, who beat the unmasked Kane at Vengeance, wants his spot back. He beat Kane at the PPV, and then wrestled Orton, unmasked tonight. The fans would never know, as they're twins with identical movesets. The unmasked Kane that we all know was FORCED to come out in the Kane outfit and especially the mask, because not doing so would reveal the secret, that he had a twin brother, and Kane has been very reluctant to talk about this issue. That's why tonight's unmasked Kane (the real Kane, wrestling for the first time unmasked) was so easily able to kick the fake Kane (the one we USUALLY see unmasked) around so easily "for the first time". In reality, he had just beat him up for the 4th time out of 4. __________ The Kane Klone Saga. Coming to SUMMERSLAM '06.

True, Van Dam's delayed "off the top to the rail" spot made me think: "WWE Main Event". But surprise, surprise, see what being given time can do for a televised bout? The match was actually worked like a well-paced WWE PPV match, which done correctly, resembles a great ECW TV/home video match from the 90's. Great job on both parts. Totally unpredictable finish, and a CLEAN one, to boot.

I haven't been online since Monday. That said, Vampires and Naked Male Peeper or not: Rob Van Dam Vs. Kurt Angle on the 3rd week of ECW Sci Fi is so far the WWE Match of the Year.

Shut up Meltzer. I'm right, you're wrong.

Cena's great for heat and has gotten over his 2005 struggles to be a great main eventer in '06.

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Michaels/Angle had arguably the two best WRESTLERS who never fought going at it. It featured the awesome Jannetty/Angle match. The return of Sherri and the hilarious singing promo. Also, Royal Rumble beatdown. There was major hype for it, not some "internet buzz". Batista/HHH copied the formula from the previous year? How is that, since, oh, Benoit wasn't ON Raw until 2 months before the match, and it was a 3-WAY MATCH. A lot of people didn't even think Benoit would take it, and thought the title win would occur a month later in Edmonton. Rock/Hogan had JR salivating, the bad memories of Hogan's pitiful last attempts at working matches on PPVs, and the stupid truck attack. Plus they got to see Hogan and Rock work on free TV that same week. "basically enough to show that Hogan wasn't a main event star anymore." Odd, since he was main eventing Raws and had the most anticipated bout at Backlash that year. You forget that after putting others over, Hogan left the WWE for 2 years. Not to mention the fans absolutely took over the HoF ceremony for minutes chanting "one more match!". Plus the entire focus of Raw became Michaels/Hogan. And no one really saw the turn happening on July 4th. Quote: 'They thought, "Wow, Hogan's back and he's gonna face the Rock. Those are two of my favorite wrestlers ever and I never thought I'd see them wrestle." You obviously love Jim Ross. I'm not arguing this anymore. WM 18 blew, except for one shockingly great match that became legendary AFTERWARDS. If it was held in any other town, it'd be less legendary. End of story. Newsflash buddy: THE MAJORITY OF FANS WHO BUY PPVS AND ATTEND LIVE EVENTS ARE INTERNET FANS. THEY KNOW WHAT WILL SUCK AND WHAT WON'T.

More semantics from you. Are you really going to use people like Rene Dupree, Johnny Parisis, and LILLIAN GARCIA as statistics for people Orton is more charismatic than? The issue is that Orton has not proven to be a capable worker or talker to justify his role: which is high upper card to main event wrestler. __________________ Edge, Flair, Michaels, Triple H, Cena, AAE, and Carlito are all more naturally charismatic than Orton. They're all main eventers, with the exception of AAE and Carlito. The only upper carder or main eventer with worse charisma than Orton: Kane. And I'm not including the Spirit Squad, who seem to be good talkers but have a lot of lines fed to them for their "cheerleaders in sync" routines.

You're correct. However, if you're truly going by fan hype and not the post-match buzz and history: - Rock/Lesnar was more anticipated. - Benoit/HHH/Michaels was more anticipated. - Batista/Triple H I was more anticipated. - Michaels/Angle I was more anticipated. - Hogan/Michaels was more anticipated (though you can thank the Rock/Hogan bout for re-energizing Hogan's mystique) I think you overhype the build and need for the Rock/Hogan match, as it was silly (mack truck run-over) and Hogan had already faced Rock a week earlier. The insane crowd made it legendary, as most people predicted a stinker to something "OK".

I want to be the Best Boy.

The guy tried to mock the internet for universally bashing something that's actually worth bashing. You should be trying to get his number instead of posting a pretty lame sentence that references something you weren't even around for. Believe me, the last person I'm gonna start a little pissing match with is some fucking dweeb with a Lindsay Lohan icon. Because half the time I end up getting lazy and sound stupid and lose the argument. Slipping and losing it to someone like you would cripple me. Then I wouldn't be able to get down the stairs to the basement at said mixers, and I've only got one more year of college left. So in summary, stop creating stupid threads in HD.

I just think they should get a clue, already. It's been years.

"at least they didn't do anything truly moronic like putting the belt on Bradshaw." They did have Bradshaw main event a ton of Raws in a row, though. "We had the most anticipated match in the last five years (Rock/Hogan)" WHAT!?!? Dude, the build-up for that was a month. And no one expected it to be as fun and historic as it turned out being. Sting/Hogan (Starrcade 97), Austin/Rock (Mania 15), Austin/Rock (Mania 17) were way more anticipated, to name a few.

I'm not a mark by any means, first of all. I just like explaining how Orton's work and push is bad for business.

Actually, it is ONE title represented by two titles. There would be no ECW Title without the WWE Title. Heyman needed RVD to win to have the right to re-christen a title as a "World" title. Van Dam is the ECW World Champion. ECW doesn't recognize the WWE Title. But Van Dam likes it, because "it spins", and for some reason keeps giving the WWE a chance to win the thing back.