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Taker/Batista at Mania will be sick because the crowd will shit on Batista. Cherry Duece and Domino? Uh.... Sounds awful.

WCW Monday Nitro - June 24, 1996 Live from Charlotte, North Carolina Hosted by Tony Schiavone and Larry Zbyszko (Hour 1) Hosted by Tony Schiavone and Bobby Heenan (Hour 2) Chants of "We Want Flair!" are heard as we take a look back at the attack on Eric Bischoff at The Great American Bash. Gene Okerlund Interview with Lex Luger, Sting, and Randy Savage We're backstage for this one, with all three men in their face paint. Divide and conquer, says Savage. Luger in Sting's face paint looks odd, to say the least. We see Sting and the former "Razor Ramon" having an altercation in the past. Don't pick on commentators, says Sting. Who's their third man, just announce him already. Luger says that "WW..CW stands tall!" That had to be a hint that Luger was really the third man. Rick & Scott Steiner interrupt, as do Harlem Heat, who have a score to settle with Luger & Sting. We get a huge three-team argument as the segment concludes. Lord Steven Regal & Squire Dave Taylor (with Earl Robert Eaton & Jeeves) Vs. The Public Enemy Oh God, this should be awful. TPE are still turning face, with new dance-along theme music. Regal outwrestles Rock and mocks his dancing. Squire Dave and Rocco blow a roll-up sequence and moonsault, respectively, and Regal gets tagged in. Three minutes in and nothing has happened. Schiavone calls this a "great match". Rock misses a Lionsault. Regal kicks his face in. Taylor now works him over with European uppercuts. The former WWF wrestlers who attacked Bischoff have been spotted outside the arena. Hot tag to Johnny Grunge. He works over the Blue Bloods with sloppy offense. Eaton trips Grunge, who lands head-first on his own arm cast. Eventually Grunge comes too, and ass Taylor is taunting the fans he sneaks up behind him and clocks him with the cast. Grunge pins Taylor at 5:29. Really bad match. 1/2 *. Kevin Sullivan (with Jimmy Hart) Vs. Kip Abee Sullivan paces to the ring, blindsides Abee, and tosses him into the crowd. Sullivan drags the jobber up the arena steps and into the concession area. Security prevents the wrestlers from entering the bathroom. Abee gets slammed into the Subway sandwich vendor's area. Sullivan makes his way back to the ring. Schiavone claims that officially Kevin Sullivan has been disqualified. DUD. Post-match, Gene Okerlund is in the ring for an interview. Sullivan is in the Horsemen's town, and just destroyed a wrestler, so Benoit and Anderson had better watch out. The crowd chants "We Want Flair!", and Sullivan says that at the PPV, Benoit & Anderson won't defeat the Dungeon, so Flair won't get a World Title shot the next night on Nitro. In each of us burns the fury of a warrior. Glacier. Coming to WCW. July 1996. "Hardwork" Bobby Walker Vs. WCW World Cruiserweight Champion Dean Malenko They wouldn't...possibly...would they? Walker's an athletic but clumsy Power Plant graduate. Malenko's starting to get over with his matches against Rey. Dean with a quick roll-up for two. Walker sends Malenko to the floor in an awkward sequence. Dean takes control with a back elbow, stomps, a bodyslam, and a chinlock. Snap suplex from Malenko. Dean puts on a crucifix submission, then turns that into a Camel Clutch. At the three minute mark the announcers finally mention this match is going on. Soft powerbomb from Malenko, then the Texas Cloverleaf, but Malenko lets go to pay mind to Disco Inferno. Disco is at ringside with a framed gold CD. Walker comes back with a kick and backdrop. Big dropkick from Walker. Disco gets on the mic and says it's time to dance, so hit his music. His music plays and Disco starts his dance number! Disco gets in the ring and starts dancing on the corner as Malenko hits Walker with an alledged brainbuster. Malenko monkey flips Walker out of the corner, but Walker lands on his feet, and Malenko dropkicks him into Disco's posterior. Disco falls to the floor as Malenko hits Walker with a Northern Lights Suplex for the pin at 4:38. * 1/2. Adding some humor to Malenko's title run isn't such a bad idea. Okerlund is in the ring for a...Malenko interview? Disco's in the ring too. Malenko tells him to not even think about hitting him. Disco says his "Shake Your Booty Tour" is sold out, his new CD is gold, and that Malenko and Walker "weren't having a good night and were stinkin' up the joint!". Disco rants about his dancing and his CD and leaves. Malenko promises it'll only take one hold to put Disco away at the PPV. On WCW Saturday Night - Sting, Luger, & Savage team; Mysterio in action; Eaton Vs. Tenta. The Barbarian Vs. Eddie Guerrero Barbarian overpowers Eddie early, but Guerrero escapes a Gorilla Press and dropkicks Barbarian twice. Barbarian catches Eddie's springboard crossbody and runs him into the corner. Barbarian spikes Eddie with a powerbomb and the crowd is very much alive. Pumphandle slam from Barbarian. Eddie gets in a Victory Roll combination and delivers a super sloppy hurancanrana. Crowd boos. Eddie hits a back suplex. Crowd is really behind Barbarian and booing Eddie Guerrero. Barbarian crotches Eddie up top. Wow, Barbarian launches Eddie with a super overhead throw! Eddie rolls to the floor. Back up top, Eddie counters Barbarian's superplex and lands on top of him for the three count, although Barbarian seemed to kick out at three. Match goes 5:38 and wasn't bad. **. Of course, Gene Okerlund is there for an interview. We see Konan/Guerrero from Uncensored, and Eddie accidently getting low blowed and losing the match. Eddie doesn't have any excuses, but wants another U.S. Title shot. Crowd lightly boos. Eddie wishes he had a shot at the invading wrestlers as production tries to wrap the segment up. Chris Benoit & Arn Anderson (with Steve McMichael) Vs. The Rock 'N Roll Express This should be good because of the pro-Horsemen crowd. The Express' generic music can barely be heard. We count down to Hour #2 of Nitro. And then we go to commercial. Ricky Morton and Chris Benoit start, which is an awesome combo. Benoit shoulderblocks him back and is all "Horsemen, grandpa", then threatens to slap Gibson's eyes straight. Morton counters a Benoit powerbomb with a Lucha armdrag, nicely done! Sloppy crossbody out of the corner gets Morton two. Gibson kneelifts Benoit and works the arm. Arn gets the tag to a nice ovation. He gets a sleeper, but Gibson escapes and tags Morton in. Anderson suckers Morton into a Benoit clothesline outside the ring. Anderson guillotines Morton under the bottom rope. Benoit stomps him and salutes the crowd. Morton finalls tags Gibson. We get a four-person brawl. Gibson and Benoit fight over a backslide, and McMichael hits Gibson with the steel briefcase. Benoit makes the easy pin at 6:29. * 1/2. So basic and kinda dull. Anderson DDTs Morton for good measure. Total moron Joe Gomez runs out and tries to attack the Horsemen by himself. McMichael cracks him with the briefcase then slaps him around. Randy Savage and Kevin Greene hit the ring and run off the Horsemen as the crowd boos! Gene Okerlund Interview with Ric Flair, Woman, Elizabeth, and Debra McMichael Flair's proud of Steve McMichael. They're safe and away from Savage & Greene. Benoit, Anderson, & McMichael join the interview. McMichael yells a lot. Ric Flair gloats about his chances against Konan. Alex Wright Vs. WCW Lord of the Ring "Diamond" Dallas Page Page's continued defenses of the Battlebowl Ring against WCW's undercard continues. Wright gets two roll-ups and dropkicks Wright to the floor. Page runs into a boot, but counters Wright's suplex and delivers a Fujiwara armbar takedown! Page with a gutwrench into a gutbuster. Page misses a kneelift and crashes to his back. Wright with a spinning kick and punches! Not a bad match, it's fluid...just not exciting. Flying axehandle from Wright. Springboard dropkick sends Page to the floor. Running plancha from Wright over the ropes onto Page. Wright attempts an up & over splash but gets Page's knees. Wright blocks a gutwrench, tries a German, but gets elbowed and Page hits the "Diamond Cutter" for the pin at 4:12. ** for a quick, solid bout. Okerlund's in the ring to discuss Page's taped fist match with Jim Duggan at the PPV. He's pissed he has to wrestle Duggan, and it's obvious WCW is trying to hold DDP down. Gene Okerlund Interview with Kevin Greene We get footage of Steve McMichael selling out to the Horsemen at The Great American Bash. Greene says he has a game plan, he'll kick some ass with the Carolina Panthers this year, and eventually come back to deal with Steve McMichael. V.K. Wallstreet Vs. "Macho Man" Randy Savage (with Kevin Greene) Savage attacks Wallstreet to start. Wallstreet gets thrown to the floor. A monsterous "WE WANT FLAIR!" chant breaks out. Savage gets a roll-up. Savage gets thrown over the top rope and slammed into the rail, because Greene had the referee tied up trying to get to Wallstreet. Wallstreet's attire is so ugly and bush-league. They trade punches. Wallstreet hits a suplex. Savage fights back, but Wallstreet rolls out and avoids the elbow. Greene throws Wallstreet into the ringpost. Savage hits the flying elbowdrop for the win at 4:36. *, pretty boring. Harlem Heat Vs. The Steiner Brothers Vs. WCW World Tag Team Champions Sting & Lex Luger - No Disqualification, No Countout, One Fall Scott and Booker start. Scott uses his power to hip-toss Book around. Stevie cheapshots Scott and Booker superkicks him. Scott ducks a sidekicks and hits Booker with a double-underhook powerbomb. Lex saves. Rick and Stevie in now. Stevie Ray stomps him into the mat. Rick ducks a clothesline and hits a release German. Steinerline! Booker saves. Sting tags in, gets double-teamed by the Heat, and Booker tags in. Sting ducks a Harlem sidekick and Booker gets crotched on the top rope. Sting tries a pump splash but Booker gets the knees up and tags Stevie. He works over Sting as we go to commercial. We're back as Sting has Stevie in a sleeper, but Ray escapes and powerslams him. A big "WE WANT FLAIR!" chant breaks out. Interesting that Ric Flair didn't appear in the arena on Nitro...from Charlotte, NC. Fans are rightfully pissed. Booker hits a spinning kick on Sting, but Rick Steiner breaks up the pin. Sting & Stevie crack heads, with Sting landing head-first on Ray's groin. Booker attempts a splash off the top but Sting moves. Luger gets the hot tag. He takes out Harlem Heat with clotheslines. Powerslam on Booker T. The former "Razor" and "Diesel" come to the ring through the crowd, wielding baseball bats. A swarm of officers flood the ringside area and the ring. Luger gets rolled up from behind by a Harlem Heat member during the chaos and the referee makes the three count, as the Heat win the titles at 9:17. ** for an okay match. The Heat leave the ringside area with the belts, as the former "Razor" and "Diesel" stand near the ring with bats, held off by police, Sting, Luger, and The Steiners. The camera pans on the police, each ready to draw a gun from their holster. The show ends with Schiavone declaring WCW is in a "State of Emergency".

BETTER Shoot I always liked because it had TOTAL validity outside the angle: Kevin Nash on April 21, 1997 Nitro: "FLAIR, PIPER...you and your old time guys, you left this wrestling business in shams. You pushed yourselves and left NOTHING behind for the young guys. You strip mined this company and left nothing for the future. Before me and Scott came here, WCW was nothing. WCW was a bunch of guys PUSHING THEIR SONS. If you didn't have a dad working here, you didn't do anything. Scott Hall was here. I was here. And yeah, I was a little green. So we went to NEW YORK. And whatta we find we we got there? Stay all night, dance a lot longer. Fun and games were over, because it was work, and guys busting their butts to FIX the business from what you guys LEFT OF IT. Where I come from...you beat respect out of me. So while you guys do the champagne, the leer jets, the UGLY BROADS, me and my crew decided we got no problem flyin' commercial, pilin' three in a rented Taurus. 'Cause we're gonna kick back, drink some 40 ounces, and try the BEST we can to pave the POTHOLES that you guys left behind." It's all opinion based on facts, not Heyman being a hypocrite and messing up dates and calling WWE the "bad man" when he was on their payroll.

Not have a women's division. Women's wrestling doesn't do well in the States and will take up precious television time. Give each feud a sizeable portion of Impact each month. Each personality doesn't need a cameo on every other show. Get an internet TV show to keep your guys with big internet crowds in angles. Keep Shelley, Starr, Lethal, etc. on TV once in a while to develop their characters, 1-2 matches a month, more matches on the 'net. Release Sting. He isn't a draw and doesn't job clean, or in the case against Abyss for the title, devalues the title. Release Jacqueline. Never been interesting nor a draw. Turn LAX face. Actually, more of a tweener group. Do bad things, but not such lame 80's tactics as burning the flag. Gradually have them feud with heels. Keep AJ off the mic. He's over and doesn't need it. Shut Tenay and DW the fuck up. They're worse than a million Michael Cole and Tazz commentary duos. Get Impact to two hours already. 1 hour doesn't work today. Give Angle a lengthy title run. Have him call out people from WWE, ROH, UFC etc. This differs from VKM doing it because Angle is actually relevant in today's wrestling scene. After 3 or 4 months, do a "breakdown" Angle or some such thing to fool the 'net, and every PPV can be "the one where Angle's going to lose", but he just doesn't. Finally, Joe ends it and there's a handshake. Get Raven and his group out of there. Horrible. Sabin's character needs something. He has the talent, and the heel push is slightly working, he just comes off very blah to the public. GIVE LYNN THE BELT, and not just a "token" reign with it. Have him keep putting over his age, how the fans think he can't go, whatever the case. RUN PPVs IN NEW AREAS. Seriously. TNA FANS RUINING A MATCH EXAMPLE #5950: During the X-Title 3 way, Daniels and Sabin are having a nice sequence in the ring. Only thing is, the crowd starts chanting "YOU STILL GOT IT!" like trained seals to Lynn, on the floor, who the camera isn't even on. Distracting the viewer from the work inside. Jesus, lemmings, chant your 2002 chant when the guy does something in the ring... Lynn then wipes the floor with them and the crowd sits there.

"Wait a minute what kind of merchandise does Lashley and Test sell?" How dare you forget Test's 2003 hot-seller, the "I LOVE MY TEST-ICLES" t-shirt.

The cool thing about Russo is, at least for the WCW period, and this may be part of his downfall, is that he always tries to FLESH OUT CHARACTERS and at least GIVE THEM a character. Madusa went from "chick with big knockers" to "WCW, screw you! I am a woman wrestler not just eye-candy! Then she feuded with a writer and dated a 21 year old worker. So he TRIES, there's just not much to work with. The Christy Hemme thing from the PPV was a much more exaggerated thing that he did with Madusa in '99. At least he took this dead characters, i.e. La Parka and Chavo and Vincent and such, and tried to give them life. La Parka's "dubbed over voice" thing gave him meaning to the non-smark crowd. Chavo's AmWay sales was a horrible gimmick, so no dice. In TNA, there's a TON more talent than he had to work with in WCW, at least wrestling wise. He needs to find a proper balance of "SHOOTY ANGLES" and great wrestling to succeed. Fans can always find out what happens on the net or the next Impact episode. It's the match quality that will draw TNA's audience. That's why they're blown their load with AJ's feuds, Daniels X Title escapes, and Joe/Angle.

Whoever created "Kyo" - he's awesome in baseball. HR like every 3 outta 4 times. "Ollie" resembles John Leguizamo and is a solid 2nd at bat. My favorite has to be "emmit", the Jerry Garcia-esque 5th hitter. Clutch hits aplenty.

Maybe it was a defective copy. My analog stick works fine on every other game. I don't see Spidey or Doc Strange constantly running forward into danger. That was my immediate concern (broken stick). Thoth thanks for your Wii-mail, just got it (net was down), pretty funny. (think it was you anyway)

Quote: ' While Bobby Heenan and Gene Okerlund were dancing around singing "Tutti Fruitti", ECW was producing the edgy TV that you named "attitude." ' LIE. Heenan and Okerlund were in WCW by then (1994-94), it wasn't the 80's. ' Because while Doink the Clown had green hair and a rubber nose, "Stone Cold" Steve Austin was drinking his first beer in ECW, damn you. ' LIE. Doink wasn't in the WWF when ECW, WHO WAS ON THE WWE'S PAYROLL BY THE WAY, had Austin. Stole Bret's dream? Stole Michaels' smile? Used Hogan's blood? (or made them millionaires...) This was just trying to please the smart marks and make them buy the PPV. Lot of crap in there. Basically the whole entire speech is a big "let's rally the internet" piece of shit work because Heyman was a WWE employee when running ECW.

theintensifier, I feel that i have some knowledge of this subject being that I regularly watched every Nitro live, I own every Nitro/Thunder show on DVD/CD-R, or VHS, attended various WCW shows and PPV events, and was a huge mark for them since I started watching wrestling in 1991. RUSSO HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE DEATH OF WCW. By the time Vince Russo came to WCW in October of 1999, WCW was a cancer patient that had about 12 months to live. There was nothing anyone could do. Russo just took the patient out on the town, did some strange things with him, and watched him go. Russo was doomed, as the talent that was there and boring storylines/terrible feuds had crippled WCW. Most of the quality workers were already begging to leave, ratings were on the serious decline, and it was over. 95% of what Russo did in WCW was GOD AWFUL and Russo should in NO WAY have ANY positive light shed on him for his WCW work, don't get me wrong. But what was done was already done. Russo just happened to be the head writer for a sinking ship. WCW as a "#1 Company" contender officially died around Sept-Oct 1998, regardless of what people will try to spin. 1999 was all downhill. 2000 was the harbinger of death. 2001 was death.

I believe this is the energy company's first year they can't write off their losses. Which is why they're hot-shotting so many angles at once, despite the TNA nerds cries of "OMG RUSSO SUX BLOWING THEIR LOAD WITH JOE/ANGLE". They HAVE to.

I returned Red Steel to GameStop on Sunday evening. Read all about the horrid nature of said game in the Wii thread. The guy there was actually really helpful. And then he advised me to come back on Tuesday and pick up Wii Play, which comes with an extra remote. I got my giftcard and was all excited to get my newest remote and game. Only to go today and be told "SRY, IT'S D-LAYED!" What a fucking idiot. Yeah, maybe I should've researched it on the internet, but I'm not a big "gamer" and these clown shold've known the fucking game was delayed.

I was given Red Steel for Christmas. I finally opened it on Sunday at 5:00 pm, being too busy with the greatness that is Ultimate Alliance, Zelda, and Wii Sports. I played the game for approx. 10 minutes. I was at the store by 5:40 pm to return it. Seriously, it is the worst game I have ever played. The graphics are SUPER NINTENDO QUALITY. The cut scenes consist of shitty "art" moving side to side. i.e. a picture of a car sliding onto the screen. The play control is probably the worst for a "Goldeneye" type game ever. You CONSTANTLY move forward and must hold back to stop. Anyways, the game is the shits. Avoid it at all costs. Oh yeah, you're saving your "girlfriend", a Japanese chick in full Japanese attire and steretype. With a voice of a 30's suburban mom. The voice acting, art, play control, all get a solid F.

Sorry, but every week it's "TNA goes up .1!" or "TNA loses .1!" as if that actually means anything for the company's future.

Ratings mean shit. Consumers spend money because of compelling storylines and interest in wrestlers and the matches they compete in. TNA has awful storylines and overhyped "dream matches" that end up with meaningless roll-up endings and no long-term planning. That's why companies like ROH outdraw them and sell more tickets. But the Joanie Laurer Memorial Women's Division might sell some tickets. And the Chris Harris "road to recovery" we've waited for for years. Seriously after downloading that abortion of a PPV, poor Jerry Lynn may be TNA's only true likeable star.

I just wanted to show my appreciation for the hottest song in the country, "We Fly High." BALLINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

DX wrestles like 8 tag matches and gets in the running for Tag of the Year.

Syxx is involved in two legendary Nitro promos: Jericho and Syxx are in an argument about Jericho winning the Cruiser title from him at a "Pay-Per-Listen" event on Saturday Night... Jericho: "...and I beat you, 1-2-3..." Syxx: "You BEAT NOTHING until you got back to your hotel, pal!" ____________ Flair to Syxx: "Because I've had more World Championships than you'd have pieces of ass, pal!" ____________ Basically if your sexually related promo ends in "...pal!" it's probably gold.

"a couple of years when those marks realize how stupid it all is." Whether you realize it or not the same is said about us.

"Brown is still everything the WWE likes" Mic skills of a 4th grader, steroids, and horrible wrestling skills. I agree.

"Star Studded" = Matt Striker, Test, Shannon Moore, Little Guido, Kevin Thorn, Tommy Dreamer, and Sandman representing MAJOR COMPANY ECW instead of Sunday Night Heat.

Maria's like the Kitty Pryde of Raw, she does jack shit but if she wasn't there it'd suck.

Kayfabe: The brain cells combined between these four are in the teens.

At least CM Punk doesn't need to worry about...

I'm the one w/ the massive WCW library. BTW, JR and King speaking out loud as the voice of the fans in regards to Cena's title match, "HOW IS THAT FAIR?" is so lame. Jesus, as if the Cena/Umaga match wasn't bad enough at NYR, now you have another Cena win at Rumble.