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He's just quoting the company line. HHH also created fire.

Gee, where'd you get that idea from?

This show needs a capture the midget match to liven things up.

YOu think that's as bad as it gets, when he goes for the diving headbutt he says "FROM DOWNTOWN!" as he flies and "BOOM SHAKA-LAKA" when he connects. HE'S ON FIIIIIIIIIIRE!!!!

Well I know I just picked my jaw up off the floor! You never know what crazy twists and turns these WWE writers will come up with next! Just when you think you know the answers, they change all the questions!

Shawn Michaels? The shocks continue! I am in such disbelief right now! Be still my beating heart! Oh, I can't take much more if this excitement!

This show is so bad I could watch TNA right now.

I cheer Orton because he now makes his own decisions. YAYYYYYYY!!!

Ha, HHH got a money shot from Orton!

This is from the 10/16/99 WCW Thunder, when Kevin Nash did color commentary, with all this stuff from www.ddtdigest.com. "Nash says he has a video package for the fans. It's a replay of the Goldberg-Sid Vicious situation. Nash is doing a John Facenda-like NFL Films narration. I'm dyin' here. "Bill Goldberg - a bald-headed man with a tattoo - who only has one loss - to the great warrior - ..Kevin Nash - ..standing in the frozen tundra of Lambeau Field --- (Sid comes on) - ..Sid Vicious- .. 6 foot ten - ..290! - ..no - .315! -..no -.350! -.no FIVE HUNDRED AND NINETY SEVEN POUNDS!" Oh man, this is priceless. And it goes on. This is great. Beyond words. At the end Tenay says, "shades of Mystery Science Theater." That was good." =========== [buff Bagwell gets beat down by Lex Luger and and Rick Steiner.] Tenay: And here comes LA PARKA! Why is La Parka coming out here? Nash: Because we got to the booking meeting late today, Tenay. Tenay: It's the all-shoot edition of Thunder, folks! ============ Nash: "They should have known Meng was going to win...nobody loses after having a big video package of them right before the match!"

I recently saw night two of Chikara's Young Lions Cup, and wanted to talk about the most entertaining part of the show, which was a one on one tournament match between the Wild Cards...Eddie Kingston and Blackjack Marciano. The Wild Cards come to the ring and immediately start ripping into all the fans. Marciano steals a guys hat and puts it down his pants and then throws it across the gym. They make fun of all the fans and each other, and stall for about 10 minutes doing this. They then start ripping on each other for being fat, when Marciano goes "well at least we're not as fat as HER" and points to a rather large woman seated in the crowd. They then lock up, and Kingston rolls Marciano to the mat for a 2 count, and proceeds to pull down his pants, leaving him on the mat in his underwear! Kingston runs around the ringside area celebrating like he just hit a home run in the World Series. They finally get to wrestling and have a pretty good match. It's slow, but very hard hitting and not too bad, with each guy cheating as much as possible to try and win. Finally Eddie Kingston rolls out of the ring and gets on the mic, and gives a great promo about how him and his tag partner are just KILLING each other out there and for what? The stupid fans? And they both decide to leave. So the ref starts counting them out as they leave and go backstage, and as he reaches 16, both guys start running back to the ring, fighting with each other and trying to get the other guy counted out! It's fucking brilliant. The crowd just LOVED this segment...you could just see it on their faces, as everyone was laughing and smiling. Kingston and Marciano are simply the most charismatic tag team on the indy circuit today, and some of the best comedy heels out there. Ya mutha!

Isn't that the guy who bitched about it on the message boards? Yeah, Marciano teased doing it and Kingston says "Oh, you can't do that, that's BAD." Their interaction with the crowd is just fantastic.

"MR. INSANITY" TOBY KLEIN vs. NECRO BUTCHER (IWA-MS KOTDM 2004 TOURNAMENT, NIGHT ONE, FANS BRING THE WEAPONS): This match has gotten a lot of attention as being one of the best deathmatches ever, and I even saw a few posts on the Death Valley Driver board that listed this as one of the best matches of the year. Well, I got my KOTDM 2004 tapes today, so I figured I'd review this match. Now, I'll be the first to admit it's going to be hard to give this match a star rating, because I know ahead of time it's not going to have any wrestling, it's just going to be a crazy brawl. But we'll see what I think and go from there. Necro enters first, than Klein. Klein grabs some light tubes and fakes out a few fans, pretending he's going to hit them with the tubes. The match starts before Prazak finishes introductions. Necro grabs a computer monitor and just tosses it at Klein! They brawl on the floor and Necro chops Klein. They start trading STIFF shots back and forth. Klein throws a chair at Necro's head and then breaks a light tube over his head. Klein misses with a weapon shot and Necro chops him and then hits him with a big yellow wet floor cone and then headbutts Nero down. He bashes another light tube across Necro's back and then tears off Necro's shirt...and Necro snaps! Necro punches the SHIT out of Klein with a legit HARD shot and then starts throwing about ten chairs at Klein! Necro grabs a staple gune and puts one into Klein's forehead and then they trade more stiff chops. Klein grabs a HUGE light tube structure made into a crayon shape and cracks it over Necro's head for an "I-W-A" chant. Klein grabs a water cooler on a pole and bashes Necro with it a bunch of times. Necro is bleeding now pretty good, and Klein is bleeding some as well. They trade more NASTY punches, though not as stiff as Necro's earlier. Necro tosses Klein into a bunch of chairs as they brawl through the crowd. There seems to be some cooperation problems here taking bumps as they block several moves...but then Klein POWERBOMBS NECRO OFF THE BLEACHERS AND ONTO THE FLOOR! OUCH! It's falls count anywhere, so Klein rolls on top for a two count. Klein brings Necro back into the ring and rolls him across the glass on the mat. He rakes him in the head with something sharp. Klein then hits Necro in the back with a barbed wire baseball bat, drawing more blood. They trade shots from a seated position on the canvas, and Necro dishes out some nasty headbutts. They both charge at each other and do a double headbutt, and Klein rolls on top for another two count. Necro hits more chops. Necro sends Klein into the corner and then charges and gets backdropped to the floor...and Klein pours salt all over him! Poor Necro is just taking a BEATING here. Klein tries a sunset flip powerbomb to the floor, but Necro blocks and hits a RANA on the floor on Klein! Ha! CM Punk on commentary: "Never in ymy life did I think I'd see a flying head scissors from the Necro Butcher." Butcher bashes Klein with a huge wall of light tubes. They brawl around some more. Necro heads back to the ring and up to the top rope. He leaps off the top to the floor WITH A SENTON! Necro just BASHES his jaw on the floor here, and lost several teeth from this move. Back in, and Klein nails Necro with some Nintendo or something like that. They just have no energy left here, and I don't blame them. Necro sends Klein to the ropes and slaps on a SLEEPER! Pyschology! Klein is able to grabs some light tubes and break them over Necro's head, but Necro still holds on! Finally they sandwich the referee in the corner and Klein taps, but the referee misses it. Necro releases the hold and Klein rolls him up...FOR TWO! Actually, that "ref gets bumped but misses the submission from the heel" was done about as realistically as you could have right there. They trade a bunch more punches and Klein throws another chair at Necro. He sets it up and hits a Death Valley Driver onto the chair for three at a whopping 18:00. I have to admit, I'm not the biggest deathmatch fan, but that was one hell of a crazy brawl. Definitely not match of the year or anything, but it has to be right at the top for deathmatch of the year. Scott Keith gives Cactus/Payne vs. Nasty Boys ****3/4, and this was a better brawl than that, but I think he overrated that match, and it's so hard to give star ratings to deathmatches anyways, so I don't really think I can give it a star rating. I think the match also goes to show why deathmatches should really be done so SPARINGLY, and why Ian Rotten made the right choice in ending these deathmatch tournaments. These guys just KILLED each other out there, and it's more than just the scars most deathmatch workers get from getting stabbed in the forehead or whatever. Necro took some CRAZY bumps here that have to just KILL your spine. I mean a powerbomb off the bleachers? And that crazy senton to the floor? I also really think the best deathmatches come from guys who CAN wrestle at least a bit, but are crazy enough to take all the bumps and do all the crazy shit that the blood marks love so much. Toby Klein was pretty good here, but after seeing him work two matches with Madman Pondo and this one with Necro, it's safe to say that the man who made this match was Necro Butcher. He's simply one of the best deathmatch workers in the world today because he's such a crazy fucker. I feel sorry for the man, really, because he's killing himself for so little. But you can't say he's not good at what he does, and that's taking a lot of punishment and hitting people hard. What I liked about it is that it seemed a lot more "real" than most deathmatches, which seem really cooperative, staged, etc...like you're watching a sick freakshow exhibition (which you really are). Necro is such a crazy bastard that you never know when he's really pissed or not, because some punches he threw here were HARD. And he broke Green Phantom's nose at CZW's Tournament of Death 3 in July with a punch to the face. This match seemed more like a real brawl (thought not all of the time), and was better because of it.

I was looking at John McAdam's site tonight and came across these matches/angles I knew absolutely nothing about. I've heard about the hour long triangle match that "put ECW on the map" and that it was REALLY overrated, but I was hoping you guys could help me out here. Is this stuff as good as McAdam says? Was it just crazy for its time put doesn't hold up now? Let me know all about this stuff: SABU & TAZMANIAC v PUBLIC ENEMY from Philadelphia, 2/4/95. Great brawling, broken tables everywhere. Benoit runs in after the match to powerbomb Sabu from a table straddled on the top turnbuckle, through a second table on which Rocco Rock was laying. PROBABLY THE MOST INCREDIBLE SPOT I'VE SEEN IN 20 YEARS AS A FAN! A cherry on the cake of a Match of the Year candidate- A MUST, MUST SEE!! 5***!! TAKA MICHINOKU, SHOICHI FUNAKI, DICK TOGO, SHIRYU & MENS TEOH v GRAN NANIWA, GRAN HAMADA, SUPER DELPHIN, & TIGER MASK, from the 10/13/96 Michinoku Pro show in Japan. INCREDIBLE MATCH. The flying manuvers used here are off-the-charts spectacular exhibition of high spots and crazy moves. I've always said that to have a true five star match, the bout has to be supported by some storyline, and some history. But I'm throwing that rule out the window for this one. This is an astonishing match, all action for over 30 minutes. There are times I'd swear I was watching in fast forward! This is truly one of the VERY BEST MATCHES I'VE EVER SEEN, right up there with top-shelf bouts such as Flair v Steamboat and Hart v Austin. A MUST, MUST SEE. FIVE STARS PLUS!! 5 *** ++ Have I raved enough? BILL WILCOX AND FREIGHT TRAIN FULTON do an interview, which turns into a brawl. They trash each other with chairs and trashcans, then Wilcox does a flip onto Fulton- FROM THE TOP OF A ROOF!! THIS IS INCREDIBLE!! Wilcox then tries to drown Fulton in a lake. Fulton escapes, and piledrives Bill THROUGH A WOODEN PICNIC TABLE!! All of this takes place in a state park, with all of the families and picnicers not knowing what to make of this. If there was justice in this world, Wilcox and Fulton would be big stars. A MUST-SEE!!! TRIANGLE MATCH: TERRY FUNK v SABU v SHANE DOUGLAS from Philadelphia, 2/5/94- this is an awesome, MUST-SEE match, and a "MATCH OF THE DECADE" CANDIDATE. One full hour of action, featuring creative booking, and great heat. I've had close to a dozen people tell me that this is the best match they've ever seen. I won't go that far, but it's definitely 5 ***. REY MYSTERIO JR v JUVENUD GUERRERA, 2 out of 3 falls from Philadelphia, 3/9/96. A great mix of ECW-style brawling and Lucha-style high spots. I suppose this is a good spot to address this: I'm sure some of you are wondering why there aren't any WCW Cruiserweight matches listed here. With all due respect to the wrestlers and the performances they put on...if a match is the second one on the card, held at a biker rally where no one cares about the participants, the announcers are babbling about the NWO and not even calling the spots- in short, if no one but the hardcores care about the match- no matter what the guys do, it's hard for me to give it consideration for Match of the Decade. In this case, the fans are into the match and give the athletes' performance the respect it deserves. CAGE MATCH: HEAVENLY BODIES v ROCK & ROLL EXPRESS from Pikeville, KY, 4/1/94. This is the classic Losers Leave SMW match. Just incredible heat here. The match itself is great, but when you throw in the history between the two teams and the heat caused by the losers-leave stip, and a fantastic finish, it all adds up to 5 ***. SABU v AL SNOW from La Puente, CA, 9/11/94- If I ever put together a tape of the best matches nobody has ever seen, this would be one of the first bouts on it. Sabu does his usual insane spots, and Snow is his ususal great self. All hell really breaks loose when the legendary TERRY FUNK appears out of nowhere, and starts beating the crap out of both Sabu and Snow! What proceeds is a wild, insane 3-man brawl that is a "must see" for video collectors! The arena looks like a tornado has swept through it, and the brawl goes into the parking lot, all captured on film. 4 3/4 ***.

I'd use this real situation to make an angle. Next week, Jamie Noble confronts Kidman. Kidman says it was just an accident, he was just trying to win the match. Noble accuses him of trying to take out Chavo, knowing that since they lost non-title to Chavo and Noble, they were about to lose their title. He challenges Kidman to a match, and since Chavo is hurt, he wants London banned from ringside. Kidman agrees. The match comes, and goes a few minutes. With Kidman down, Noble takes his tag title belt and DRILLS Kidman with it. He just beats the HELL out of Kidman, busting him open, yelling "how do YOU like it, you son of a bitch!" Maybe he beats him down so badly that Kidman has to be stretchered out. This sets off a big blood feud between the two teams, and when Chavo returns (hopefully by No Mercy), they're ready to have their big tag team title match. Any chance of this ever happening? Okay, so maybe not...but it'd be cool, right?

CHRIS HERO vs. "AMERICAN DRAGON" BRYAN DANIELSON (IWA-Mid South, 8/21/04): With all the hype this match got ahead of time, I thought I'd do a review of it here, since it's going to take me a while to get through the entire 8/21 IWA-MS show, which is over 4 hours long, with eleven matches. I should note that the show starts with a cool segment where lots of IWA wrestlers predict who will win the match. Arik Cannon is great as a heel here, and predicts Dragon will make Hero "tap like a bitch at the 23 minute mark". Punk is even better, saying Dragon will win because "he has more international experience, he's more seasoned, and oh yeah...he actually goes to the gym once in a while. Try lifting some time Chris, it might help you." He winks and walks off screen. Each man is introduced, and Danielson gets a standing ovation. Hero gets a mixed reaction. They shake hands and we're underway. They tie up and Danielson takes Hero down and goes to work. They fight over some arm bars/holds. Dragon does a great bridging reversal and they break. They go to a knucklelock, and Hero runs through some usual stuff and goes to a cravat. The fans try the whole dueling chant thing again, but any attempts at that now just seem like trying to ripoff the Joe vs. Hero match. We get another clean break, and then another tie up. Danielson and Hero each do some reverals out of the knucklelock. Danielson tries a back slide and slowly takes Hero down and into a waistlock, and then back around, shoving Hero's shoulders to the mat for 2. Hero grabs Danielson's hand, so Amdrag just slaps it free. They are all twisted up like a pretzel on the mat and do this cool double hand stand double submission thing that is kind of hard to explain, and then get a break. They tie up again, and Hero snapmares Dragon and goes to a chinlock and then a surfboard. Dragon fights out, but Hero keeps a hold of his left arm. Dragon rolls over and reverses into a hammerlock on Hero. Hero lifts Dragon off the mat, but Dragon rolls over with a sunset flip-type pin for 2. They circle each other, and Dragon teases Hero with a few jabs, and Hero responds with a big kick attempt. They tie up again and Hero gets a waistlock while Dragon hooks his left arm, and they fight for position. Hero slams Dragon, who holds onto his arm and rolls through into an arm bar. Hero gets back to his feet and shoves Dragon to the ropes, and hits a dropkick. Hero hits a floatover snap suplex for 2, and then goes back to an arm bar. Dragon gets the ropes and a break, but then hooks Hero by the arm and wrings it. He gets a monkey flip, but Hero lands on his feet and takes Danielson down with his legs. Hero offers a handshake, so Danielson slaps him and hits some headbutts to a big pop from the crowd. He hits a big European uppercut and then some more. The match picks up in intensity as Dragon brings some stiff shots. Dragon keeps focusing on Hero's left arm, and they trade strikes before Dragon takes Hero down and snaps Hero's left arm around. Hero tries to fight back with strikes, but Dragon hooks his arm and takes him to the mat and into a mounted arm bar. Hero does anything to roll free, but Dragon keeps holding on. Dragon picks Hero up and hits a slingshot suplex to big cheers; Dragon has plenty of fans in Highland on this night. Dragon goes to a surfboard, which Hero escapes, but Dragon keeps him down with a dropkick and continues to work Hero over, even briefly applying a camel clutch while Hero is in the ropes. Dragon goes back to a surfboard, stepping on the back of Hero's legs to take him to the mat. Hero fights back up, and Dragon takes him right back down. Hero fights back up again and tries to spin out, but Dragon goes right back to it. Finally Hero kicks himself free and misses a strike, but catches Danielson coming off the ropes with a powerslam. Hero now realizes he needs to hit Danielson and hit him hard, and he brings the forearms and his twisting neckbreaker from off the ropes. He scoops Danielson up and slams him down, and then hits a senton. Hero tries a suplex, and has to switch sides before he can lift Danielson up, due to his shoulder. He gets a 2 count. Hero tries a powerbomb, but Dragon flips out and hits a roaring elbow to knock Hero down. Dragon does his airplane spin into a rolling slam on Hero, but then misses his headbutt off the top rope. They get back up and trade forearms. Danielson gets a rolling bridge for 2. Hero quickly rolls Danielson up for 2. Hero hits some forearms, and then makes a small mistake by hitting a forearm with his left arm, only to not sell it as hurting at all after the work Dragon did to it. He then powerbombs Dragon and goes to the Hangman's Clutch. Dragon fights to the ropes in a good sequence. Hero tries to Hero's Welcome, but Dragon is able to counter. Hero blocks the Cattle Mutilation and hits a backdrop driver on Dragon. Hero heads up top, but Dragon catches him and hits an armbreaker off the top rope right into the cattle mutilation for the finish at 23:00, just like Arik Cannon predicted. THOUGHTS: This was an interesting match. The work was just beautiful, and everything was smooth and well done. The first 18 minutes are well worked and a great build, but a build for a LONGER match. My problem with the match is that the last 5 minutes seemed slightly rushed. After a slow, back and forth 18 minute opening, the match really should have gone at least 10 minutes longer than it did, at least in my opinion. It was like a match with a good start and a good finish, but no real middle to it. Maybe that was just me...I'd love to hear other's thoughts on it. In all honesty, though, these guys had to live up to SO much for this match, so people giving it ***1/2 say it was a disappointment. I really don't think so. This was a beautifully worked match, and set the stage for a rematch down the road, a match in which each man has PLENTY left in the bag. Think about it: Hero didn't use the Hero's Welcome, Dragon didn't use his backdrop superplex, etc. I would LOVE to see a 45-60 minute match between these two sometime in the future. Bryan Danielson is simply one of the best workers in the world. He's so damn fun to watch, and everything he does is realistic and hard hitting. I read Tim Cooke's review of the match on the DVD boards and agree that Hero needs to vary up his arm work a bit. But really, Hero didn't have much of a chance to do that in this match, as Dragon really controlled the large majority of it. If you think about it, the underlying story of the match is interesting: Dragon dominates the match, outwrestling Hero, and causing Chris to rely on strikes to get himself back into the match, but with Dragon catching him when he tries for a big move and hooking the Cattle Mutilation for the submission. I liked this match a lot, just as I did in Dragon's match with Arik Cannon, which I gave ****. I have to put this match just slightly under that match at ***3/4, with hopes that Hero and Dragon get a 2/3 falls rematch or an Ironman match sometime down the road. I suggest you get the 8/21 IWA-MS show, sit back, relax, and enjoy this match, along with a lot of other great stuff on this tape. Hopefully I can get a full review of the show out sometime soon. Thoughts, comments, opinions, etc...they're all welcome!

Jarrett vs. Hardy baby! SEPTEMBER 8th! THE MATCH EVERYONE HAS BEEN WAITING FOR! BIGGEST MATCH IN TNA HISTORY, BABY!

Yeah! A Necro Butcher fan, baby!

One of these things is not like the others... Good list, though.

Way to play if safe, Randy... Randy Orton: Teaching us all family values.

Czech, the Jeopardy shit? AWESOME.

This is the greatest RAW thread ever. EEEEEEEEEEEEVER~!

If someone tries to run you down with a semi truck and kill you, but you wrestle a match a few weeks later and that guy's stablemates get in a disgreement with him, you'll always take his side and make up with him just like that. "I know, I know you tried to kill me...water under the bridge!" Also, if a rogue company...say ECW...invades a bigger company...say the WWF/E...the sound guys will have the smaller company's theme music cued up just like _THAT_.

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