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First new Family Guy episode leaked
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Wow, that was fucking funny. One or two of the bits fell flat, but hey, that happens some time. So much funny stuff, from Ollie to the deaf guy to the old man returning, to Brian and Stewie as parents, to the look Stewie gives Brian at Tucker's place, to GI JOE~! Thanks so much for posting this link. -
Here's a random "this day in WWF history" thread
JoeDirt replied to JoeDirt's topic in General Wrestling
Here's a random one for April 22! WWF/E results for 4/22 since 1985: WWF @ Madison, WI - April 22, 1985 Bret Hart defeated Barry O Jim Neidhart defeated SD Jones Jesse Ventura defeated Swede Hanson WWF Women's Champion Wendi Richter defeated Leilani Kai Andre the Giant & the Junkyard Dog defeated Ken Patera & Big John Studd WWF @ New York City, NY - Madison Square Garden - April 22, 1985 Televised on the MSG Network: Prime Time Wrestling - 5/8/85: King Kong Bundy (w/ Jimmy Hart) pinned Swede Hanson with an elbow drop following the Avalanche in the corner at 4:27 Prime Time Wrestling - 5/15/85: Davey Boy Smith & the Dynamite Kid defeated Rene Goulet & Johnny Rodz when Dynamite pinned Rodz with a diving headbutt off Goulet's back, who was held in a fireman's carry by Smith (Best of the WWF Vol. 3) Prime Time Wrestling - 5/15/85: Ricky Steamboat defeated Moondog Spot Prime Time Wrestling - 5/15/85: Mike Rotundo defeated WWF Tag Team Champion the Iron Sheik Prime Time Wrestling - 5/15/85: Barry Windham defeated WWF Tag Team Champion Nikolai Volkoff Tito Santana & the Junkyard Dog defeated Brutus Beefcake & WWF IC Champion Greg Valentine Tatsumi Fujinami defeated Matt Borne Prime Time Wrestling - 5/15/85: The Cobra defeated Barro O Prime Time Wrestling - 5/15/85: Don Muraco defeated WWF World Champion Hulk Hogan via count-out ==== WWF @ New York City, NY - Madison Square Garden - April 22, 1986 Televised on the MSG Network - included Gorilla Monsoon, Ernie Ladd, & Lord Alfred Hayes on commentary: Prime Time Wrestling - 4/28/86: Lanny Poffo pinned Rene Goulet at 12:16 Prime Time Wrestling - 4/28/86: Nikolai Volkoff pinned Tony Garea at 6:31 Prime Time Wrestling - 4/28/86: King Tonga pinned Paul Christy at 5:48 Prime Time Wrestling - 4/28/86: Sivi Afi defeated Iron Mike Sharpe via count-out at 7:09 Prime Time Wrestling - 8/4/86: WWF Tag Team Champion the Dynamite Kid pinned Brutus Beefcake (w/ Johnny V) at 11:18 by blocking a suplex into the ring and reversing it into a roll up; after the bout, Beefcake tied Dynamite upside down in the corner and pounded away at him until Davey Boy Smith made the save (The British Bulldogs) WWF IC Champion Randy Savage pinned Tito Santana in a No DQ match at 18:52 with a roll up and using the tights for leverage (Macho Man Randy Savage & Elizabeth) Prime Time Wrestling - 8/11/86: Greg Valentine (w/ Johnny V) pinned WWF Tag Team Champion Davey Boy Smith at 9:12 following an axe handle from the middle turnbuckle to the back of the head (The British Bulldogs) Prime Time Wrestling - 4/21/86: Cpl. Kirschner defeated the Iron Sheik via disqualification at 5:15 when Nikolai Volkoff interfered (Villians of the Squared Circle) Pedro Morales pinned Tiger Chung Lee at 3:10 Prime Time Wrestling - 4/28/86: Jake Roberts pinned Scott McGee with the DDT at 4:15 (Jake 'the Snake' Roberts, Villians of the Squared Circle) WWF World Champion Hulk Hogan & Hillbilly Jim defeated Big John Studd & King Kong Bundy via disqualification at 10:33 when Bobby Heenan interfered (Hulkamania 2) ==== No show for 1987. ==== WWF @ Springfield, MA - Civic Center - April 22, 1988 (9,000) Andre the Giant pinned Jake Roberts; after the match, Roberts hit the DDT on Bobby Heenan Saturday Night's Main Event #16 - 4/30/88 on NBC: Jim Duggan defeated Hercules via disqualification at 7:22 when Andre the Giant interfered; the Ultimate Warrior made the save for Duggan after the match Brutus Beefcake defeated Danny Davis with the sleeper at 3:02 WWF World Champion Randy Savage (w/ Miss Elizabeth) pinned the One Man Gang (w/ Slick) with the flying elbow at 5:56 after Slick accidentally hit OMG with his cane WWF Tag Team Champions Demolition (w/ Mr. Fuji) defeated Davey Boy Smith & the Dynamite Kid via disqualification at 4:46 in a non-title match Ted Dibiase pinned Don Muraco at 4:10 even though Muraco's foot was on the bottom rope during the cover Rick Rude pinned Koko B. Ware at 3:37 with the Rude Awakening after Koko landed throat first onto the top rope Wrestling Challenge: 5/1/88 - featured the debut of female ring announcer Mike McGuirk: Bam Bam Bigelow (w/ Oliver Humperdink) pinned Iron Mike Sharpe with the slingshot splash into the ring at 1:43 WWF IC Champion the Honkytonk Man (w/ Jimmy Hart) pinned Jose Luis Rivera in a non-title match with the Shake, Rattle, & Roll at 2:02 Bret Hart pinned Barry Horowitz with the piledriver at 3:47 (you have this match listed twice) Jacques & Raymond Rougeau defeated Chris Duffy & Joe Milano at 1:32 when Raymond scored the pin after a clothesline off the top from Jacques (the first instance of the Rougeaus being referred to as 'Fabulous') 5/8/88: Davey Boy Smith & the Dynamite Kid defeated Steve Lombardi & Randy Brian at 3:15 when the Dynamite Kid pinned Brian following the press slam / headbutt combo The Ultimate Warrior pinned Conquistador #1 with the press slam and splash at 2:18 Bad News Brown pinned Reno Riggins with the Ghetto Blaster at 2:35 WWF Tag Team Champions Demolition (w/ Mr. Fuji) defeated Jerry Allen & Nelson Veilleux at 2:04 when Axe pinned Veilleux following the Decapitation 5/15/88: Tito Santana & Rick Martel defeated Tony Ulysses & Rick Gantner at 5:02 when Santana pinned Ulysses with the flying forearm The One Man Gang (w/ Slick) pinned Mario Mancini at 1:30 with a powerslam B. Brian Blair & Jim Brunzell defeated Iron Mike Sharpe & Terry Gibbs at 3:38 when B. Brian Blair pinned Sharpe following a dropkick from Brunzell Nikolai Volkoff & Boris Zhukov (w/ Slick) defeated Brady Boone & Billy Woods at 2:17 when Zhukov pinned Woods with a clothesline ==== WWF @ Philadelphia, PA - Spectrum - April 22, 1989 Paul Roma defeated Boris Zhukov WWF Women's Champion Rockin Robin defeated Judy Martin Bret Hart fought Mr. Perfect to a draw Dino Bravo defeated Hercules The Bushwhackers defeated Arn Anderson & Tully Blanchard Jake Roberts defeated Ted Dibiase Randy Savage defeated WWF World Champion Hulk Hogan via count-out WWF @ Boston, MA - Boston Garden - April 22, 1989 Televised on NESN: Greg Valentine defeated the Blue Blazer The Barbarian defeated Jim Neidhart Tito Santana fought Rick Martel to a no contest when Martel attacked Santana before the bout began The Honkytonk Man defeated Hillbilly Jim WWF Tag Team Champions Demolition defeated the Big Bossman & Akeem via disqualification Prime Time Wrestling - 5/15/89: The Genius defeated Jim Powers (Lanny Poffo's debut as the Genius) Prime Time Wrestling - 6/5/89: Brutus Beefcake pinned Bad News Brown with a roll up while Bad News argued with the referee (Best of the WWF Vol. 20) Rick Martel defeated Tito Santana The Ultimate Warrior defeated WWF IC Champion Rick Rude via count-out (The Ultimate Warrior 89) ==== No shows with full results listed for 1990. ==== WWF @ New York City, NY - Madison Square Garden - April 22, 1991 Televised on the MSG Network: Ricky Steamboat pinned Haku with the flying bodypress at 9:35 Paul Roma & Hercules defeated the Bushwhackers when Roma pinned Butch at 8:34 The Big Bossman pinned the Mountie at 7:56 Sgt. Slaughter defeated WWF World Champion Hulk Hogan via disqualification at 16:00 when the referee came to and saw Hogan with a steel chair, originally used by Slaughter IRS pinned Jimmy Snuka by using the tights for leverage Kerry Von Erich fought the Warlord to a double count-out at 9:15 when both men began brawling on the floor (Rampage '91) Prime Time Wrestling - 5/6/91: Shawn Michaels, Marty Jannetty, & Virgil defeated the Orient Express & Mr. Fuji at 10:33 when Virgil applied the Million $ Dream on Tanaka Ted Dibiase defeated Roddy Piper via referee’s decision at 7:33 after Dibiase applied a figure-4 on Piper’s injured knee and the referee felt Piper could no longer defend himself WWF @ Montreal, Quebec - Forum - April 22, 1991 Koko B. Ware pinned the Black Demon Bret Hart defeated the Barbarian Earthquake defeated Jake Roberts via disqualification Tugboat defeated the Brooklyn Brawler The Legion of Doom defeated WWF Tag Team Champions the Nasty Boys via count-out Davey Boy Smith defeated the Berzerker Jim Duggan defeated Col. Mustafa The Ultimate Warrior defeated the Undertaker via disqualification ==== No show for 1992. ==== WWF @ Essen, Germany - April 22, 1993 (sell out) Virgil defeated Terry Taylor Doink the Clown (Keirn) defeated Tito Santana Rick & Scott Steiner defeated WWF Tag Team Champions Ted Dibiase & IRS via disqualification The Bushwhackers defeated the Beverly Brothers Tatanka defeated Papa Shango The Undertaker defeated Yokozuna via disqualification Bret Hart defeated Bam Bam Bigelow ==== WWF @ Richfield, OH - Coliseum - April 22, 1994 (6,000) Kwang pinned the 1-2-3 Kid WWF Women's Champion Alundra Blayze pinned Lelani Kai (sub. for Luna Vachon) with the German suplex into a bridge Lex Luger defeated Crush (sub. for Mr. Perfect) Razor Ramon defeated WWF IC Champion Diesel via disqualification when IRS interfered and hit Razor with the steel briefcase; Tatanka made the save after the match Bam Bam Bigelow pinned Sparky Plugg IRS defeated Tatanka via disqualification when Tatanka hit the referee Men on a Mission defeated WWF Tag Team Champions the Quebecars via count-out WWF World Champion Bret Hart pinned Owen Hart ==== No show for 1995. ==== WWF @ Munich, Germany - April 22, 1996 (4,702) The Bushwhackers and Henry & Phinneas Godwinn defeated the 1-2-3 Kid, Leif Cassidy, and WWF Tag Team Champions Skip & Zip Ahmed Johnson defeated Davey Boy Smith via disqualification in an arm wrestling match Jake Roberts pinned Razor Ramon Justin Bradshaw pinned Duke Drose Hunter Hearst Helmsley pinned Savio Vega Bret Hart defeated Steve Austin The Undertaker pinned Owen Hart WWF World Champion Shawn Michaels pinned Diesel ==== No shows for 1997-1998. ==== WWF @ Notre Dame, IN - April 22, 1999 Owen Hart & Jeff Jarrett defeated Christian & Edge WWF Hardcore Champion Bob Holly defeated Val Venis The Acolytes defeated DOA Kane pinned Mideon D-Lo Brown & Ivory defeated Al Snow & Tori Billy Gunn pinned Darren Drozdov Road Dogg & the Big Show defeated Triple H & the Rock WWF IC Champion the Godfather defeated Goldust ==== WWF @ Columbia, SC - April 22, 2000 The Godfather defeated Viscera Test & Albert defeated the Headbangers WWF Hardcore Champion Crash Holly defeated Perry Saturn WWF Light Heavyweight Champion Scotty 2 Hotty defeated Dean Malenko The Acolytes defeated Road Dogg & X-Pac WWF World Champion Triple H defeated the Big Show The Fabulous Moolah & Terri Runnels defeated Mae Young & the Kat WWF IC Champion Chris Benoit defeated Kurt Angle Rikishi defeated WWF European Champion Eddie Guerrero via disqualification WWF Tag Team Champions Edge & Christian defeated Matt & Jeff Hardy and the Dudley Boyz ==== WWF @ Alburqurque, NM - Tingley Coliseum - April 22, 2001 (10,638) Grandmaster Sexay, Steve Blackman, WWF Light Heavyweight Champion Crash Holly, Hardcore Holly, & Molly Holly defeated Steven Richards, Bull Buchanon, the Goodfather, Val Venis, & Ivory K-Kwik defeated the Brooklyn Brawler Perry Saturn & Dean Malenko defeated Jerry Lynn & Essa Rios Kurt Angle defeated Chris Benoit Chris Jericho & WWF Tag Team Champions Undertaker & Kane defeated WWF World Champion Steve Austin, WWF IC Champion Triple H, & William Regal The Big Show defeated the Big Bossman Raven defeated Haku WWF European Champion Eddie Guerrero defeated Test Matt & Jeff Hardy defeated Edge & Christian, the Dudley Boyz, and X-Pac & Justin Credible ==== WWF (Smackdown!) @ Valparaiso, IN - April 22, 2002 WWF Cruiserweight Champion Tajiri defeated Billy Kidman, Chavo Guerrero Jr., and the Hurricane by pinning the Hurricane Dawn Marie pinned Kim Neilson to earn a WWF contract Tazz defeated Hardcore Holly Val Venis & Hugh Morrus defeated Albert & D-Von Dudley Christian & Lance Storm defeated Randy Orton & Mark Henry Torrie Wilson defeated Stacy Keibler and Ivory in a swimsuit contest WWF Tag Team Champions Billy Gunn & Chuck Palumbo defeated Al Snow & Maven Chris Jericho defeated Rikishi Edge defeated Kurt Angle WWF @ St. Louis, MO - April 22, 2002 Sunday Night Heat: The Big Bossman pinned Crash Holly Tommy Dreamer defeated Justin Credible WWF IC Champion Eddie Guerrero pinned D-Lo Brown with the tornado DDT and frogsplash Raven defeated Steven Richards Raw - included an in-ring promo by the Undertaker in which he said he would win the world title at Judgment Day; moments later, the Titantron showed Triple H backstage, with the Smackdown! wrestler clearly making his way to the ring; Triple H and Taker then brawled in the ring, around ringside, around the stage, and in the backstage area before Triple H was eventually arrested: Brock Lesnar defeated Jeff Hardy Rob Van Dam defeated Mr. Perfect Goldust & Booker T defeated Bubba Ray & Spike Dudley William Regal defeated Shawn Stasiak Steve Austin & the Big Show fought Scott Hall & X-Pac to a no contest when Show turned on Austin to join the nWo ==== WWE @ Nashville, TN - Gaylord Entertainment Center - April 22, 2003 Bill DeMott defeated Mark Jindrak Ernest Miller defeated Norman Smiley Velocity: Brian Kendrick pinned Shannon Moore (w/ Crash Holly) with the Sliced Bread #2 WWE Cruiserweight Champion Matt Hardy (w/ Shannon Moore & Crash Holly) pinned Sho Funaki with the Twist of Fate Jamie Knoble (w/ Nidia) defeated Sean Evans via submission Eddie Guerrero pinned WWE Smackdown! Tag Team Champion Charlie Haas with the frogsplash; both Chavo Guerrero Jr. and Shelton Benjamin were barred from ringside for the bout Smackdown!: John Cena pinned Rhyno by avoiding a slam and using a roll up Chris Benoit defeated Nunzio (w/ Johnny Stamboli & Chuck Palumbo) via submission with the Crippler Crossface; after the bout, the FBI triple teamed Benoit Rey Mysterio Jr. pinned Crash Holly (w/ Shannon Moore) with a springboard legdrop into the ring after backdropping Moore off the ring apron; WWE Cruiserweight Champion Matt Hardy sat ringside for the bout Rikishi defeated Roddy Piper (w/ Sean O'Haire) via disqualification when O'Haire attacked Rikishi to prevent the Stinkface WWE Smackdown! Tag Team Champion Shelton Benjamin (w/ WWE Smackdown! Tag Team Champion Charlie Haas) pinned Chavo Guerrero Jr. (w/ Eddie Guerrero) with a roll over and holding the ropes after Haas kicked Chavo in the face; after the bout, the Guerreros fended off the champions Tajiri defeated the Big Show via count-out after Rey Mysterio Jr. knocked Show head-first into the ringpost WWE Smackdown! World Champion Brock Lesnar defeated Albert via disqualification when John Cena, who was doing commentary for the bout, broke the cover following the F5; after the bout, Cena hit Brock with a steel chain, the FU, and the world title belt ==== No show for 2004. ==== Some interesting stuff here (as always)... We have the setup for the Lesnar/Cena match at Backlash 2003, as Cena was getting his first main event push. We have Big Show joining the nWo, and HHH appearing on RAW (when he wasn't supposed to) and getting arrested. Almost 11,000 people going to a house show in New Mexico in 2001. Really bad looking house shows in 1999 and 2000. Ahmed and Bulldog ARM WRESTLING and a house show in 1996? Tatanka losing a house show match to IRS for hitting the ref? Dibiase beating Piper with the figure four leg lock in 1991, plus Slaughter beating Hogan by DQ in a Wrestlemania 7 rematch. Savage getting a count out win over Hogan in 1989. A big TV taping with a ton of stuff in 1988. Savage and Tito in a no-DQ match in 1986! (What brought that about?) Muraco beating Hogan by countout at MSG in 1985...and who was the Cobra? -
You have to have entertainment. Whether it be through interviews and mic segments or other goofy shit, without it people won't care. It's not realistic to expect a product that's based on 80% wrestling and 20% entertainment to be really successful mainstream, IMO. Like anything else, it's all about interesting characters and good storytelling. And it's nice when the guys and deliver the goods with a great match when the time comes for it.
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LUDVIG BORGA vs. TATANKA (WWF Superstars, late 1993): Don't know the exact date on this one, but it's easy enough to look up if you want to know. Tatanka is still undefeated at this point. Of course through going undefeated for almost two years in the WWF, he never got a shot at the WWF. Ha. They circle and Borga punches Tatanka's ribs. Vince goes off on how they are closed fists. They do the "can he knock the big man down?" stuff as Tatanka chops Borga three times and clotheslines him, and Vince freaks out that it didn't knock him down. Two more clotheslines knock him down. Lots of taunting and stalling. Dropkick and cross body get 2 for Tatanka. The crowd is FREAKING OUT, but I'm guessing it's just added noise by WWF, since it's Superstars. Borga goes on offense and hits his most thrilling move of the match so far -- a sidewalk slam! Mr. Fuji comes out to the ring and waves the Japanese flag (this is before the Survivor Series 1993 America vs. The World match). Borga hits a hanging vertical suplex and we go to an ad break. Back, and not much going on. Lots of rest holds. Tatanka fights back and makes his superman comeback, but Borga hits a big uppercut. Tatanka gets dumped to the floor. Fuji distracts the ref and Borga hits a chair shot to the back of Tatanka, that he sells like DEATH. I mean, he just collapses like he's dead. Borga calmly rolls Tatanka back in and pins him with one finger at about 10:00 televised. And Tatanka's character is pretty much dead after this. Yokozuna then comes out and dishes out some Banzai drops. Wow, really great teammates you have, Tatanka. We cut backstage to see Lex Luger fighting off the Quebecers so he can make the save for Tatanka. He comes down towards the ring, taking time to HIGH FIVE THE FANS on the way...and so he gets jumped from behind by the Quebecers. He fights them off again and beats up Borga and Yoko with some of the weakest offense you'll ever see. Luger checks on Tatanka and that's that. Horrible match, but a memorable segment for a few reasons. I'll be nice and give the match *.
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I decided to do match reviews of all the random crap I happen to watch during my days of wrestling viewing. I'll review matches you'll never see reviewed anywhere else. I can't promise they'll be good matches, or matches you'll really want to see...but it'll be random, dammit! Now, on with the first review! ====================================================== TAKA MICHINOKU vs. CHRISTIAN, WWF LIGHT-HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH FROM JUDGMENT DAY 1998: Christian enters first with Gangrel and to his music. Seeing Edge and Christian back in their "gothic" days is so weird. Taka comes out next, and you need to remember that this is Kaientai heel Taka, managed by Yamaguchi-San. How did Taka turn heel, anyways? Christian slugs away at Taka to start, just to make sure we don't get any wrestling at all. Taka punches him back. Christian sends Taka into the corner and tries a German, but Taka lands on his feet and hits a leg lariat. Taka clotheslines Christian to the floor and then hits a nice springboard dive to the floor. Cool stuff. Edge is shown watching in the crowd. Taka hits a guillotine leg drop with Christian lying between the ropes, and covers for 2. Taka gets a headlock and Christian takes him to the corner and hits some shoulder blocks. Taka hits a kick to the face but Christian comes back with a reverse DDT. He sends Taka to the ropes and hits a dropkick. Lawler: We could have a new champion here! JR: That's the idea... Christian with three rolling suplexes (two snap, one front) on Taka for 2. He snapmares Taka and kicks him in the back. He dumps Taka to the floor and hits his springboard cross body to the floor. Back in, and Christian hits a powerbomb on Taka for 2. Scoop slam and he chokes Taka out. I thought Christian was the babyface here? I guess it's shades of gray, baby! Christian goes up top and misses a splash/headbutt/whatever. Taka gets up but Christian hits him with a few nice forarm shots. Taka comes back with a dropkick and a baseball slide kick. He hits a nice Asai moonsault onto Christian on the floor. Taka rolls Christian in and hits a top rope cross body, rolled through by Christian for 2. Taka rolls Christian up for 2. Taka hits a seated dropkick for 2. Christian hits a side Russian leg sweep for 2. Taka hits a tornado DDT and calls for the Michinoku Driver. He lifts, but Christian rolls him up for the title and a big pop at 8:31. This match shows how Christian was at the start of his WWF career. This match has no flow or story, it's just a series of thrown-together moves. Some of the moves are pretty nice, but there's no psychology, no selling, and nothing done to draw the crowd into the match. This was kind of the norm for the WWF at the time, I guess. This gets points for the lack of restholds during the match, however. **1/4
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Yeah, I guess that's it. They're a company. They produce wrestling-related content and try to make money. Sort of faceless, really.
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It's hard to really define anything because compared to the Attitude era, it's much different. Back then it was the "rebel" mentality. We're going to be over the top, in your face, a little risque, and more entertaining than the "old" guys. But there's nothing to rebel against anymore. WWE has become the old, out of touch entity that they rebelled against in the late 1990's.
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I really don't see the post-Heyman Smackdown as more "sports" than RAW, really...
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Great post. I'm gonna have to think about this one...
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From the DVDVR boards: Apparently this was confirmed by our buddy LucharesuFan.
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I thought that with the rumored addition of a bunch of OVW stars to the Smackdown and RAW rosters in the near future, a thread could be used to discuss the new characters. So far we have seen MNM and the HeartThrobs debut. Another character is debuting on Smackdown. PWTorch reports that...(includes SD spoilers) -Matt Morgan, a Tough Enough dropout due to injury a few years back, was called up from OVW to be on the Smackdown roster. His gimmick is that he stutters. Jillian Hall was also called up and her gimmick is that she's going to have a prosthetic mole on her face. These ideas were courtesy of the WWE writers, not their existing OVW gimmicks. DAMN do those gimmicks sound horrible. Anyways, PWTorch goes on to write that: So this thread is simply there to talk and discuss the new characters WWE is bringing in this spring.
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Ahhh, cheap heat. Where would WWE be without it. BOSTON BRAWLER~!
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Damn, Carlito is CRAZY over!
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I'm MUCH more into SD than RAW right now.
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I could see Warrior doing a lot of what Sid ended up doing. Match with Bulldog at Summerslam, and eventually a match with Vader.
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They are SO dumb to release this before Backlash...like the people who see this poster will want to see what happens at Backlash now...they know it doesn't matter because a rematch is already scheduled.
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No surprise. I predicted a double DQ or some sort at Backlash, and then the HIAC rematch at Vengeance. I could even see the Hogan match getting the main event slot at Backlash.
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1) Why did Crush appear at the 1995 Royal Rumble and then not again for the WWF the rest of the year? 2) Why didn't Adam Bomb ever get a big push? Bryan Clarke always seemed to be the big hoss type that Vince likes. 3) I've read the rumors before about Warrior originally being the guy to turn heel at Summerslam 1992, but refused to go heel...if he had accepted, would he have won the title with Flair interference? Would we have seen a heel Ultimate Warrior as champ?
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Looking back, 1995 was a pretty rough year for wrestling. Bad gimmicks, goofyness, bad matches. So who would you say had the better year, quality wise? And what could each promotion have done differently to get better results? Who could they have pushed, what angles/stories could they have run that would have been better?
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"Have you seen this? Have you heard about this?"
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What was the feud/storyline/angle going into these matches? -Hogan/T vs. Piper/Orndorff, Wrestlemania 1- -Hogan vs. Bundy, Wrestlemania 2 -Funks vs. Santana/JYD, Wrestlemania 2 -Hogan vs. Andre, Wrestlemania 3 -Hart Foundation and Danny Davis vs. British Bulldogs and Tito Santana, Wrestlemania 3 -Ricky Steamboat vs. Rick Rude, Royal Rumble 88 (is this match any good?) -Jake Roberts vs. Hercules, Summerslam 88 -Jake Roberts vs. Andre, Wrestlemania 5 -Rick Rude vs. Ultimate Warrior, Wrestlemania 5
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Thanks BHK. Another question...was there ever a plan to do a Diesel/HBK rematch at Wrestlemania 12? Was putting the title on Bret at Survivor Series a late decision, or was the plan always to do HBK/Bret at Wrestlemania?
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Cheers for the answers... Can someone go over the major Savage/Flair matches and the feuds going into those? -Wrestlemania 8 (I know the general idea with Flair saying he slept with Elizabeth and making fake magazine pictures or whatever...can somone go a little more in depth?) -Summer 1995, WCW (Didn't Flair put Savage's dad in the figure four?) -Superbrawl 6 cage match (Elizabeth turns on Savage...what led to this match?)
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Bumping an old thread that I liked... What was the buildup to Savage/Steamboat at WM3? I know the stuff with the ring bell, which happened on a SNME (or not?). Was there anything else to the feud leading into Mania? Was there any story behind the Hogan/Terry Funk match from SNME #4 in December of 1985? How about the Hogan/Orndorff SNME cage match in December of 1986? How about Hogan vs. Savage in February of 1990 with Buster Douglas as ref?