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If you hear his interview as the 2/96 IYH PPV, you can tell he is not. He definitely sounds a lot more Hawaiian than Japanese there.

"I make chicken salad out of chicken shit."

I was surprised that Rey Misterio was only 30, but he started so young it makes sense. Damn, he has a lot of years left in him, hopefully.

As I've said before on here, I didn't start watching wrestling until 1999. I REALLY got into things later that year and in 2000 and went crazy watching all sorts of stuff from the past, but in early 1999 I wasn't really on the net yet and was really a mark. Remember that RAW episode in 1999 where Undertaker faced Big Show and Show chokeslammed Taker through the ring? I was watching that RAW at a friend's house and I remember talking about how great the match was going to be. I had no clue what workrate was, I was looking at it from a mark's perspective: Two big monsters who never lost were going to face each other. I try to keep that in mind when I watch wrestling with my more markish friends these days, though most of my friends don't watch anymore.

Tunney did one of his proclamations on Superstars, which was repeated on all the other shows. He said that since the three was counted and the bell rang and the title was awarded to Andre, it was his. But Andre got on the mic said he "surrendered" it to DiBiase. Tunney said that surrendering the title to another wrestler was not permissible (obviously). But surrendering the title (standing down as champ) is totally within the rules. Since Andre surrendered the title, he lost it, so it was held up and Andre became the shortest-reigning WWF champ of all time. It makes sense. BTW, that was all going from memory, so if I got any minute details wrong, forgive me. Thanks for the explanation, I appreciate it. This may seem like a dumb question, but why was Hulk Hogan vs. Andre the Giant not done at WM1 or WM2?

For some reason I found this card to be interesting: WWF @ New York City, NY - Madison Square Garden - September 22, 1980 Televised on the MSG Network The Hangman defeated Dominic DeNucci at 10:15 Rick Martel defeated Rick McGraw at 6:47 (Martel's MSG debut) Les Thornton defeated Jose Estrada at 7:41 Pat Patterson defeated Johnny Rodz at 8:30 Pedro Morales defeated Afa at 3:34 Tony Atlas defeated Sika at 5:32 WWF IC Champion Ken Patera defeated Rene Goulet at 1:04 Larry Zbyszko defeated Tony Garea via disqualification at 13:34 when Garea failed to release an abdominal stretch after Zbyszko reached the ropes Andre the Giant pinned Hulk Hogan at 12:25 when guest referee Gorilla Monsoon gave Hogan a fast count WWF World Champion Bob Backlund defeated NWA World Champion Harley Race via disqualification at 35:14 when Race pulled the referee into Backlund as the NWA title holder was caught in a sleeper; this bout was not televised with the rest of the show, rather the Hogan / Andre match from Shea Stadium aired in its place --Can someone explain the deal with Monsoon giving Hogan a fast count? I didn't know Monsoon was a heel at the time. And what was Hogan's status at the time? Was he not looked at then as the future of the company, I'm assuming? Also, a 35+ minute match ending in DQ...ouch. But since it was between WWF and NWA champs, I guess it had to end like that huh.

Do you have a red-line to Meltzer or something? Well he DOES respond to email...

So you're saying Hogan called an audible DURING the actual Rumble itself?

I still don't see a heel winning a big tournament at Wrestlemania...heels NEVER won to end PPVs at this time period. So was the plan Dibiase vs. Hogan for WM5 then?

The story I've heard is that it was embellished by the WWF to be that many guys, so as to make HBK look tougher.

Very cool. Good to hear, though at least MY balls haven't exploded yet.

My bad, you're right, I don't know where I got that from! Probably useless moron Scott Keith.

Foley said in his first book that he was supposed to win the title at Mind Games but the finish was changed on the fly, I'd be more inclined to believe him than Meltzer.... I don't remember him saying that in the book...

I've never bought the survey argument simply because (though I have no idea how they conducted the survey) that the people actually filling it out were the more hardcore fans, who obviously would want more matches, less soap opera, etc. I could see that all the "casual" fans were already watching WWF, I suppose, but other than that I can't see your average fan saying "I want more wrestling!" because average fans really don't care about matches unless there's a good storyline to go with it. Why did Vampiro do a minute long squash to Disco Inferno around this time period? I remember he threatened to quit or something, but then came back.

My question is about the Wrestlemania 4 tournament. Obviously I know the whole Hogan/Andre/Dibiase angle was done to set the tournament up. But did they ever explain kayfabe-wise why they didn't just give the title back to Hogan or have a rematch at Wrestlemania since Hogan lost the title by such nefarious means? It just seems kind of weird to out of nowhere announce a 14 man tournament after a controversial match between Hogan and Andre. Also, was there any method in who got picked to be in the tournament? For instance, why guys like Dino Bravo and Butch Reed were in, and guys like Hercules, Warrior, Bad News, JYD were not in it?

I have no idea, but it sounds like something Kevin Nash would say. Or I guess the obvious guess would be Benoit.

Here are all the unsolved ones so far: "Last night this girl came knocking on my door at midnight. Finally, I let her out." "What are you? A Bobby Heenan cartoonish heel color commentator?" "Kurt Angle is Picasso. Triple H is a finger painter." "We're going to finish this...one way...(suddenly yells)...OR ANOTHER!" "You think you're BETTER than me?" "Any Joe or Jose could buy himself a cheap belt and call himself the Intercontinental champion!" "I AM a dinosaur, I'M A TYRANASAURUS REX!!!" "What's the matter, Acey baby, did you lose? Oh, I'm sorry. It was my fault!" "AAAHHHH Hercules Nothing has been accomplished you know that as well as I. No water has been put on the fire, only bigger logs and bigger trees that me and you have the power to rip out of the ground or to send back to the forest and the flames, the flames of the fire Hercules that only me and you can put out or continue to make them rise Hercules we can turn it up or we can raise the heat up but either way Hercules you and I are the ones to deciiiiide. " (Not sure if this was solved or not) "Look at my beautiful body!" "I'm the greatest World Champion ever...if only on technical ability." "You must do so I may live." "As long as he can tone down his style, and we can cover that fat son of a bitch up...hey, hey, I'm just telling you what Vince said, don't blame me. But Vince said that if he wanted to see floppy boobs, he would hire a 50-year old woman." "If there are sicker men in this sport I love, I don't know who they may be" --If I missed any, feel free to correct me. Also, some people guessed some but if they were wrong, let us know. Okay, game on.

Just got a chance to watch Smackdown, really good show this week, by far the best SD in a while. Good matches and good segments for the most part. Really liked CCC selling hot dogs, the Cena/JBL stuff, the Chavo/Eddie segment, the opening match, and seeing London get a win. Great show.

This one is CM Punk, I think. He said it to Raven, right? Yup. He said it that about Raven at Wrestlerave 03. "Jimmy, there's no shame in losing to me." I 've got talent on loan from GOD." Alex Shelley! Here's one: "As long as he can tone down his style, and we can cover that fat son of a bitch up...hey, hey, I'm just telling you what Vince said, don't blame me. But Vince said that if he wanted to see floppy boobs, he would hire a 50-year old woman." EDIT: The one before it, just by context, sounds like it must be Bret Hart saying it to Shawn Michaels.

Whoops, missed this one earlier...Jake Roberts! My favorite part of that promo is "you've got twenty? I've got twenty one. You've got twenty one? I've got twenty two." Anyways, here are some more, though plenty remained unsolved: "I'd shake your hand like a normal man, but the truth is I DON'T respect you. I hate you. I hate you for everything you've pissed away, everything I scraped and I clawed for, that I haven't even earned yet, that you got HANDED to you! That you flushed down a toilet! For what? For pills, for booze, for alcohol, for women?" ???: Who are you? Terry Taylor: I'm Terry Taylor. ???: ...well who the hell cares. "Blow it out your ass O'Haire, I've got guys that could take out your knee caps."

Wow, my picks are going great. I had Vermont to win, and if I only hadn't picked UCLA and Alabama I'd be perfect so far.

Wow, didn't get to see any of the end of the game or OT. Thanks CBS.

I'm stuck watching the Duke game and they won't switch.

Come on Vermont! This would be huge for my brackets.

It's the perfect boredom killer! Okay, here is the deal. You can make your card be a WWE/F, WCW, or ECW PPV, except you can't use the Royal Rumble or World War 3. You can do any other gimmick PPV if you want (like KOTR or Survivor Series or whatever). Your PPV must have from 8-10 matches, using any wrestlers living or dead. You must: -Use a former Wrestlemania or Starrcade main event as one of your matches. -You must use Blackjack Mulligan, Lenny Lane, old school Taz, and a form of Sid (regular, Sycho, Justice, Vicious, etc) on your card in some form. -At least two of your matches must end after outside interference of some form. -Babyface/s must do something embarrassing or comedic to a heel manager after one match. -At least two of your matches must be singles matches that never happened in wrestling history, to the best of your knowledge. -You must include either Undertaker, HHH, Hulk Hogan, or Shawn Michaels on the card, and his match must have a finish obviously altered because he bitched about the booking and used politics to change things. -One match should have plenty of blood. Put together your card, give us the results, and assign star ratings if you'd like. For example: WCW GREAT AMERICAN BASH: 1) Blackjacks Mulligan and Windham d. New Blackjacks Bradshaw and Windham at 7:54 when Mulligan used his clawhold on Barry Windham for the submission. **1/4 2) Johnny B. Badd d. Lenny Lane at 6:55 with a rolling cradle to win back his Badd Blaster that Lane had stolen. **1/2 3) Taz d. Dean Malenko in a "submission match" at 10:00 with the Tazmission. ***1/4 4) Raven d. Vader at 9:12 after interference by the Flock and the Evenflow DDT to retain the WCW US title. Sid Justice was special referee for the match, and afterwards got into a brawl with Vader. **3/4 5) King Kong Bundy d. Brian Pillman at 5:05 following Bobby Heenan's interference, an avalanche, and a splash. After the match, Steve Austin came out to save Pillman from a beatdown, and the two proceeded to rip Heenan's pants off. He ran to the back in polka dot underwear. 6) Abdullah the Butcher d. Mikey Whipwreck in a "fork on a pole" match at 3:42 following an elbow drop. Both men bled heavily in the match. 1/4* 7) Steve Austin d. Shawn Michaels via DQ at 18:54 following Michaels using a cameraman's camera to knock out Austin. After the match, HHH and Chyna held a bloody Austin up, allowing Michaels to connect with sweet chin music. Brian Pillman ran out to make a save, but was also beat down. The announcers foreshadowed a possible DX vs. Hollywood Blondes match in the future. Michaels retained his WCW title. ***1/2 8) Devastation Inc. d. nWo Wolfpac in a Wargames cage match at 21:49. -Super Destroyer started in the ring with Curt Hennig. -DI won the coin toss. Kamala entered. -Lex Luger entered. -Killer Kahn entered. -Randy Savage entered. -One Man Gang entered. -Kevin Nash entered. The finish came when Scandor Akbar was able to fireball Lex Luger through the cage door, and Kahn and Destroyer held Luger down as Gang and Kamala "broke" his leg. Luger submitted. **3/4