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I could be wrong, but I don't think he had debuted in the ring yet. Wasn't his first match at Mania? No, he beat Mankind at Survivor Series 1997 and beat Vader at No Way Out 1998, plus had other squashed I believe.

Does anyone know why Kane wasn't in the 1998 Royal Rumble? The only reason I can think of is that he would have had to have been eliminated, and they wanted him to look totally dominant going into WM against Taker.

I don't see HBK interfering in Angle/Cena. Why not put Cena over clean here, since he's the next big babyface, and then have HBK challenge Angle on RAW now that he knows Angle isn't challenging for the WWE title?

Deep Discount DVD is awesome...I will be getting the Rumble there when it comes out, and for $13 plus free shipping you can't go wrong.

These guys have all been on the OVW website for a long time. It should be noted that the only Tough Enough guys left in developmental are Puder, Nick Mitchell, Ryan Reeves, and Marty Wright. I guess Rodimer is done.

So HHH went to Vince complaining that Johnny Ace was trying to stop him from cheating on VINCE'S DAUGHTER!? Yeah, real good theory there, makes tons of sense.

- With WWE likely going with an Undertaker vs. Randy Orton match at WrestleMania 21, a slot has opened up for Matt Hardy on the big show. WWE might do a Matt Hardy vs. Kane vs. Gene Snitsky match at 'Mania, with Lita involved somehow. Hardy is on pace to return to the ring in early March. [PWTorch.com]

I saw that match live, I was very much into it (I was a mark for Mr. Hughes back then). He pegged him with the urn post-match, right? I believe so, yes. Tatanka was kept unbeaten, and Hughes was made to look strong going into his feud with Taker that never happened.

Going off this topic, I want to convert all my old wrestling tapes to DVD...what would be the best DVD burner to pick up? How exactly does the whole process work? (I'm pretty technologically retarded)

I really have no idea how they'd book the finish to this match.

IWA-MS Put Up Or Shut Up 1st gen, January 2004: (Hero/Daniels loser leaves town cage match, Chikara match, Webb vs. Delirious, Steel vs. Lynn, more) -WWF IYH #2 July 1995 1st gen -ECW Heatwave 1999 1st gen -ECW Anarchy Rulz 1999 1st gen -WCW Slamboree 2000 and Great American Bash 2000 1st gen (together on one tape) -WCW Hog Wild 1996 and Fall Brawl 2000 1st gen (together on one tape) -Ring of Honor Wrestlerave 2003 VHS MASTER -WWF Global Warfare 1993 CV MASTER -WWF Survivor Series 1991 1st gen -WWF Survivor Series 1993 1st gen -WCW Fall Brawl 1996 1st gen -WCW Halloween Havoc 1996 1st gen -WCW Fall Brawl 1999 and Mayhem 1999 1st gen (together on one tape) -WWF Judgment Day 1998 1st gen Let me know if you want anything and how much you're willing to pay. We'll see if we can strike a deal. PM me if you're interested, and thanks. Keep an eye out, I'll be adding more tapes here soon!

Still lots of stuff that needs to go, people!

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Shawn Michaels vs. Ken Shamrock, IYH: Degeneration-X, 12/97: The story here is that Shamrock is the babyface contender in his first PPV main event against the cocky heel veteran Michaels, who has the advantage with DX on his side. Of course this is right after Survivor Series 1997, and the WWF needed a challenger for a month before doing the big HBK/Undertaker match at the Royal Rumble. I've always thought that the WWF should have done the casket match back in October at Badd Blood and then done the first Hell in a Cell at the Rumble (seems like more of a blowoff match), but oh well. Ross predicts that if Shamrock hits the belly-belly suplex, it'll be all over. They start with HBK running all over the place, much like at WM14, only to be caught by a big boot to the face by Shamrock. HBK bails and stalls for a full minute. Back in, and HBK goes to the arm of Shamrock but gets overpowered, tossed into the corner, and beat up. HBK gets bieled across the ring, and then Shamrock hits a huge back body drop. Shamrock sends HBK to the corner where he bumps like a pinball up and over to the floor. More stalling from HBK, who clutches at his back like we'd see him do after the casket match in January. Back in, and Shamrock gets in a right hand before HBK slows things down, takes Shamrock to the corner, and hits some punches. Shamrock shoves him away so HBK tries again and gets pushed away. Shamrock punches HBK in the gut to knock him down. HBK grabs a front facelock but Shamrock blocks and hits a hanging suplex of his own and HBK bails again. Shamrock gets sick of waiting and reaches through the ropes to knock HBK and HHH's heads together. Back in, and HBK tries a sunset flip but Shamrock grabs him and lifts him up, tossing him into the corner. Punches. To the other corner, and more big bumping by HBK. He gets crotched on the ropes, and Shamrock shakes the them for fun. He tries the belly-belly, but HBK blocks and distracts the ref long enough to hit a low blow to take advantage for the first time in the match. Shamrock gets dumped to the floor and HHH beats him up behind the ref's back. HBK heads up top and hits a cross body to the floor. Crowd isn't too lively for any of this, but the match is just fine at this point. Shamrock fights back with some more punches, one of them really connecting pretty hard. But Shamrock is outnumbered on the floor, and Chyna shoves him into the ring post. HBK distracts the ref some more as HHH does a number on Shamrock and then rolls him in, and now HBK takes total control. He focuses on the back of Shamrock, dropping a second rope elbow. He whips Ken hard from corner to corner. A funny part comes when Shamrock takes a drop toe hold into the ropes, like Rey does for the 619. Shawn distracts the ref and HHH punches Shamrock, but Shamrock has his eyes closed selling and doesn't know HHH hit him, so he doesn't sell whatsoever. Ross tries to cover it saying that Shamrock is so beaten down "wow, he didn't even MOVE!" Shamrock fights back with punches (again), but HBK gets a springboard cross body that Ken rolls through on for 2. HBK goes to a chinlock in the first resthold of the match. Shamrock eventually fights out and comes off the ropes, blocking a hip toss and getting a funky rolling cradle for 2. HBK knocks Shamrock down with a clothesline and then hooks Shamrock in a sleeper as we take one more long resthold. Shamrock fights out and tries to break free by running HBK back into the turnbuckles. He finally breaks free and hits punches and then a running clothesline. Back body drop. Powerslam for 2. Hurricanrana. More punches. HBK with a crucifix pin that Shamrock counters for 2. HBK tries a rana and Shamrock hits a sitdown powerbomb for 2. HHH and Chyna trip up Shamrock and they then beat him up some more. Back in, and a slam by HBK and then the big elbow drop. He tunes up the band...and Shamrock ducks it and hits the belly to belly! JR screams "it's over!" so obviously it isn't. Anklelock, and DX runs in to save the title at about 18:30. Postmatch, Shamrock is dumped from the ring. Owen Hart returns and beats the HELL out of HBK. Cool stuff to finish. He shoves him off the apron and through the announce table, which the camera doesn't get a good shot of. Final thoughts: This match was well put together and told the story of the "upstart young babyface challenger" quite well. If you notice, Michaels only gets one two count the entire match, early on. Shamrock, on the other hand, gets repeated nearfalls on Michaels that the crowd was getting into at the end. The interference by DX was also well done and while people hate cheap DQ finishes like this, it keeps Shamrock strong, it makes sense with DX there at ringside, and sets up a rematch, though it never happened. Plus, this match was just a bridge to get them to HBK vs. Taker and HBK vs. Austin. I didn't like that Shamrock, a UFC vet, didn't use a single submission on HBK the entire match, and instead his transition move every time was a punch. Okay, maybe you could explain it by saying that Shamrock just wanted revenge on DX and wanted to beat the hell out of Michaels, but his prematch promo talks about how much he wants the title, and it would have been nice to see him WRESTLE a little more here. This match is good, but definitely not up to most Shawn Michaels PPV main events of the time. I'll go **1/2 here.

Austin vs. Rock, from IYH: Degeneration-X in December 1997: http://s13.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0LRUJAG...T80TB6J3PCB3URM Dreamer vs. Richards, Singapore cane match on RAW: http://s13.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0A2OEXO...SI2GKWHNMTKOFO8

Dark: *Matt Cappoteli & Scotty Too Hotty defeated The Shane Twins. Velocity: *Hardcore Holly defeated Kenzo Suzuki with the Alabama Slam. *Charlie Haas defeated Rene Dupree. *Heidenreich defeated Mike Mondo. Smackdown *Rey Mysterio defeated Danny Basham. They announced Rey and a mystery partner would challenge the Basham Brothers at No Way Out. Rey then revealed his partner would be Eddie Guerrero. *Backstage, WWE champion John Bradshaw Layfield complained to Teddy Long about Batista coming to Smackdown. Long told Bradshaw that he made his own bed and now he’d have to lie in it. *WWE Cruiserweight champion Funaki & Paul London & Shannon Moore defeated Spike Dudley & Akio & Chavo Guerrero when Funaki pinned Spike. The match was stopped for several minutes when several of the newer Divas came out to ringside and marched around the ring with signs advertising their name and the No Way Out PPV this Sunday. Torrie Wilson was the special guest ring announcer. *Wrestlemania 21 Pulp Fiction spoof with Eddie Guerrero and Booker T. *Kurt Angle defeated someone billed from Cleveland in the Olympic Challenge. Angle said he was going to beat whoever he had to face at No Way Out and faced off with John Cena as they passed. *John Cena pinned Booker T to make it into the finals of the Wrestlemania 21 title shot tournament. Cena will face Kurt Angle this Sunday at No Way Out. *Backstage, Heidenreich made fun of Booker T for losing. *Backstage, The Big Show did an interview promoting the barbed wire Steel Cage match. They had barbed wire on the background of the interview set. *In his locker room, John Bradshaw Layfield spoke to The Bashams and Orlando Jordan about the Barbed Wire Cage Match. He said he wasn’t afraid of Batista and if he showed up, Batista was in for a fight. *Luther Reigns pinned Nunzio. He cut an interview about The Undertaker. Taker came out and brawled with Reigns and Mark Jindrak, leading to.... *The Undertaker pinned Mark Jindrak. Reigns beat up a cameraman and then hit Taker from behind with the camera. Jindrak and Reigns walked out but as they were in the aisle, the Undertaker’s gong was heard and he sat up. *They played the trailer for “Be Cool.” *Carlito Caribbean Cool approached Teddy Long and said that next week, Long was going to feel Cool’s wrath. *John Bradshaw Layfield, Orlando Jordan, and The Bashams came to the ring. Batista showed up in a convertible, and takes a baseball bat out of his car and destroy’s Bradshaw’s limo. Bradshaw’s cabinet run to the limo. The Big Show comes to the ring and confronts Bradshaw when he’s alone. The Cabinet attacked Show. Batista ran in for the save and had a face off with Show as the show went off the air. Dark Match: *Undertaker & John Cena & Big Show defeated Kurt Angle & Heidenreich & WWE champion John Bradshaw Layfield. Other Smackdown Taping Notes: Tazz was plugging new toy WWE cars....It appeared a six man Cruiser bout would be added to No Way Out this Sunday. Added to No Way Out: Bashams vs. Eddie/Rey for the tag titles.

Blatantly stolen from the WC board... Name a wrestler and his greatest opponent. For example: Ric Flair - Ricky Steamboat Chris Benoit - Kurt Angle Rob Van Dam - Jerry Lynn And feel free to debate if you think someone else fits better than somebody that was posted.

http://www.pwinsider.com/audio/CenaShow216.wma Here it is, hope the link works!

Velocity: 1) Kenzo Suzuki vs. Hardcore Holly 2) Charlie Haas vs. Rene Dupree 3) Heidenreich vs. Mike Mondo Smackdown: 1) Danny Basham vs. Rey Misterio 2) Funaki/London/Moore vs. Chavo/Akio/Spike 3) Angle's hometown challenge 4) Cena vs. Booker T 5) Luther Reigns vs. Nunzio 6) Undertaker vs. Mark Jindrak Plus, the new movie parody, a couple matches announced for No Way Out, Batista in the house, and some other stuff.

A week before the show and only three matches announced. And aside from Eddie/Rey challenging for the tag straps and a CW title match, I have no idea what could fill out this card. Any ideas? JBL vs. Big Show (WWE title, barbed wire cage match) Cena vs. Angle (Not gonna be Booker, people) Taker vs. Luther Then what? What a horrible build for this pay per view.

Million Dollar Team vs. Dream Team...Taker's debut at Survivor Series 1990: http://s13.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3J2CHS0...C60NWXPKGJB6K62 Meng vs. Goldberg: http://s13.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2EYBDQM...QH0WO6EHSY5HYST

This year's NWO is so much like last years. Think about it: 1) Title match main event that received at least some build 2) #1 contender's match involving Cena and Angle 3) Matches added at the last second (Booker vs. Heidenreich and cruiserweight title this year, APA vs. WGTT and Hardcore Holly vs Rhyno last year) 4) Guy from RAW in attendance 5) Crap nobody cares about (Noble vs. Nidia, Diva crap this year)

Nah, listened to it live, but there should be a link up soon at PWInsider.com if you want to brave the spyware.

The full interview was really good. Cena is really charismatic, as is Show. Line of the night went to Show, as they were talking about how it's great to see Batista becoming successful. Show: "He's got a Goldberg like intensity...but he can work, too."

I liked my plan better. Ditch Heidenreich. Make the tag title match into a 6-Man with Jordan & Booker. Add Nunzio & Kidman to the cruiser match, and remove Funaki & London to have a seperate CW title match. I'd much rather watch my card. I agree with you. They could even make Cabinet vs. Eddie/Rey/Booker a 6-man elimination match, which could be fun. But that ain't what they're doing, so oh well. Let's just hope London wins the title on PPV and Booker/Heidenreich isn't God awful.