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But didn't Keller say it was RAW?

So Keller said it was RAW, right? So we can cross out the Smackdown people? Eh, I guess it doesn't matter, all it is is guessing at this point. So I'll go with Vis/Lillian until I'm proven wrong!

From Meltzer's update today: "--For whatever it is worth, on Mark Madden's ESPN talk show this morning, when bringing up the retirement of Karl Malone, he talked about the WCW PPV show where Malone & DDP wrestled Hulk Hogan & Dennis Rodman. He said that when Malone and Rodman rolled around on the court during the NBA finals before the match that it was actually a work and something WCW asked them to do."

These matches were announced tonight at the IWA-MS weekly chat: Vincennes, IN, 2/11/05: -------------------------- Tank/Iceberg vs. Pomp and Circumstance Sara Del Ray vs. Mickie Knuckles Jimmy Jacobs vs. Larry Sweeney Iron Saints vs. Icarus/Shane Storm Double C vs. B-Boy Chris Hero vs. Todd Sexton Danny Daniels vs. Delirious (IWA title) Plus Silas Young, Steve Stone, Dysfunction, and more Highland, IN, 2/12/05: --------------------------- Danny Daniels vs. Masada (non-title) 6-Way elimination women's title match Bradley/Trik vs. McClure/Stone (tag title match) Double C vs. Chris Hero (European rules) Joey Envy vs. Josh Abercrombie vs. Jimmy Jacobs (MPW Universal title) Delirious vs. Arik Cannon (LHW title) Brandon Thomaselli/B-Boy/Matt Sydal vs. Iron Saints and Todd Sexton Plus Larry Sweeney, Tank and Iceberg, Shane Storm, Pomp and Circumstance, Eric Priest, Silas Young, and more

Where the hell is Kidman these days anyways? He hasn't been on TV in a while. They're going to have to come up with some last second shit this week on Smackdown.

Isn't the pin counted like that in one of the Foley matches with thumbtacks?

Jerry Lawler vs. Aldo Montoya, RAW, 8/5/96: The story in this match is that Aldo has been traveling on the road with Jake the Snake, and got an upset win over Lawler on Superstars with the DDT. The RAW before this Lawler and Aldo did an interview where Lawler said he'd destroy him, and Aldo talked very much like Justin Credible and not much like a Portuguese Man-O-War! Lawler cuts a usual heel promo and then brings out Jake Robert's new tag team partner...a bottle of Jim Beam. He then puts it at ringside and I have a feeling it'll be used in the match. The bell rings and Lawler keeps yelling at Montoya and then cheap shots poor P.J Walker. Vertical suplex. To the ropes, but Aldo comes back with a big right hand to the face and plays the role of the plucky underdog. Dropkick to Lawler and the fans are actually CHEERING Montoya! Top rope punch by Montoya and he sets up for the DDT, but Lawler bails to the corner and holds on to the referee. JR calls him a coward. Why, for avoiding the DDT? Back body drop by Aldo. Ten punches in the corner. Lawler ends up catching Montoya with a piledriver, however, but doesn't go for a pin. He hits a second one, and it looked pretty sick. Three count for Lawler at 3:00. Lawler then grabs the Jim Beam and pours it down the throat of Montoya! Cool heel stuff. Pretty vanilla squash match, but the story and angle here are actually pretty solid in building towards Lawler/Roberts at Summerslam.

And apparently War Games announced for May.

Bringing this thread back from the dead...and in what better way than with an Undertaker match? Undertaker vs. Steve Austin: RAW, 7/29/96: This, as far as I know, is Austin/Taker's second televised match in the WWF. The first was the night after Austin won KOTR, and ended when Taker had Austin up for the tombstone and Goldust threw gold...well, dust...in Taker's eyes to end it. This is the rematch. Austin brings the awesomeness to start, offering Taker a handshake. Taker stares him down and then attacks so Austin grabs a headlock. Taker grabs Austin and tosses him into the corner and they trade arm bars before Taker takes control. Austin gets his own, but Taker decks him with a right hand. Austin begs off, and then rakes the eyes and punches Taker. Taker no sells a ram into the turnbuckle, stares at Austin, and gets the usual pop from the crowd. Hard into the corner, and then to the ropes and Taker with the usual flippy clothesline. Taker goes for the OLD SCHOOL walking the ropes, but Austin, much like at Summerslam 1998, crotches Taker on the ropes. I can't think of anyone else doing that before this point in WWF history, but maybe someone did. Austin stomps away and then pulls Taker to the apron and drops an elbow on him. Chokeout in the ropes. Trading punches. Austin takes control with a mule kick and then stomps a mudhole in Taker, called exactly that by Lawler. Elbow to the back of the neck. Austin hits his second rope elbow drop for 2. To the corner, and shoulders to the midsection. Right hands, but Taker fights back. Taker ties Austin up in the ropes and punches away. Body slam, but Austin avoids an elbow drop and goes back into control. He guillotines Taker across the top rope and we take a commercial break. We're back, and Austin has Taker down in a headlock. Taker makes his comeback. He sends Austin to the ropes, but dips too early and Austin PILEDRIVES Taker! Awesome! Austin taunts Taker and goes to the top rope...but Taker does the zombie situp and crotches Austin! CHOKESLAM OFF THE TOP ROPE! Taker scoops Austin up for the tombstone, but is distraction by Mankind, and chases him off. He ends up getting counted out, and Austin wins! Match went approximately 10:00. Taker brawls with Mankind, and then comes back to the ring to tombstone Austin! Really cool match for nostalgiac purposes, especially for Austin getting in a good amount of offense, and little things like reversing the walk the ropes move, piledriving Taker, and things like that. The chokeslam off the top was a nice touch. Really good RAW match. **3/4

I think he took his supplements when he took time off to that broken nose.

I love the Razor Ramon sig. The look Benoit gives Christian in this commercial is hilarious.

How did Haas win that one? I was watching Duke/Maryland.

Haas/Spike...Spike cracks me up for some reason. Have the writers done anything with Haas since he dumped his women at Armageddon?

Boobies!

I've gotta think it's Lillian and Big Vis.

Here it is! http://s13.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1SGANUL...M310KRNN7Y3IENL

What are the biggest non-Wrestlemania buyrates of all time?

"DERE'S A LADY! DERE'S A LADY IN THE MENNNNN'S BATHROOM! THERE IS A WOMAN IN THE MEN'S JOHN RIGHT HERE IN BALTIMO!" And we can't forget this classic: Backlund: Don't exacerbate me, young man. Foley: Bob, I don't exacerbate before a match. Backlund: And you never should.

Did Nash start in WCW as Vinnie Vegas and then turn into Oz or vice versa? In the Fall Brawl 1997 Wargames main event, I seem to recall Flair saying he wanted the guy in the cage who did the Horsemen spoof. What was the original pairings for the match and was this a last second change or were they always planning to go with this main event? I remember the Wargames at FB98 was changed as well to make for a "one guy takes it" format. What were the original matchups in that match and why did they change things?

When, during the tough times the WWF went through in the mid 1990's, do you think was the bottom of the barrel? When did things look the most bleak as far as being driven out of business by WCW? When were they closest (if ever) to folding? When was business the worst?

Is there any chance Turner gets involved when his no compete is up in March of 2006?

It's the other promotion ROH booker Gabe Sapolsky books. Sounds like really fun stuff so far.

From the IWA board: - Silas Young d. Dysfunction. - Josh Abercrombie d. "Metalhead" Steve Stone. - Masada & Tank d. TJ Dalton & some other guy... sorry. - Icarus & Shane Storm d. Ace Rockwell & Shaun Tempers. - Jimmy Jacobs d. "Sweet & Sour" Larry Sweeney. - Mickie Knuckles d. Sara Del Rey. - Chris Hero d. Todd Sexton. - "The New Age Punisher" B-Boy d. "Double C" Claudio Castagnoli. - Daizee Haze (HOT!) d. APW Future Legend Champion Cheerleader Melissa to win the title. - IWA World Heavyweight Champion Danny Daniels d. IWA Light-Heavyweight Champion Delirious to retain the title. Awesome show. Can't wait for the IWA to return to Vincennes in March. Yeah, the turnout wasn't too shabby, probably a few more than the last Vincennes show. All of the matches were solid and I think everyone thought they got their money's worth. Larry Sweeney is hilarious (it's pronounced "vin-sins," not "vin-cen-nies"), and Delirious, Hero, and Tank were way over. And I STILL can't get over how hot Daizee Haze is... damn... where was I? Oh yeah, anyway, the show was excellent. Much thanks goes out to Ian and the crew for making Vincennes a regular stop on the IWA monthly schedule.

Found this old Meltzer post at the WC board: "Actually, if Hogan had admitted using them before being under oath in 1994, and if he hadn't been forced while under oath to admit he had been lying to the media and on Arsenio Hall for years, the entire modern history of wrestling would be different." Can someone explain why?

"The Champ is Here" by Jadakiss.