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Yep, Steiner does an ugly frankensteiner at WM9. Weirdly enough, though, I've always liked Wrestlemania 9 (except for Hogan winning the title), though I'm one of the very few.

You guys don't know how SHOCKED and AMAZED I am that a big WWE match ended with a heel (sort of, in this case) getting a pin with a rollup using the tights and ropes for leverage! They NEVER do that!

No, I'm not talking about HBK carrying Kevin Nash to a ****1/2 match. I'm talking about a match in which BOTH wrestlers were known throughout their career as guys who didn't have good matches, but for whatever reason they came up with a good or a great match against each other. Can you think of some?

Agent 1: Come on, guys! Let's finally tell Vince what the real problem with RAW is! Agent 2: Yeah! [They walk into Vince's office.] Agent 1: Vince, we have something really important we need to talk to you...oh, hi Stephanie. Steph: Hi. Vince: So what's so important? Agent 1: Oh...nothing...

Was the show any good?

And for Velocity too. Thanks!

Georgia wrestler accused of stabbing opponent 14 times The Associated Press - JACKSONVILLE, Fla. A professional wrestler from Georgia, accused of stabbing his opponent 14 times with a prop during a match, has been arrested on a charge of aggravated battery. Both wrestlers in the local Thunder Wrestling Federation event told police the prop was brought in as part of what in wrestling is known as "hard-core," where it is not uncommon to see such props as knives, chains, bats and barbed wire. The event's promoter said it wasn't supposed to be hard-core. Police charged Jerome Young, 41, of Smyrna, Ga., who goes by the ring name of New Jack, with aggravated battery with a deadly weapon. He was being held under $40,003 bond Tuesday in the Duval County Jail. A court appearance was set for Nov. 2. Young told police he and his opponent, William Jason Lane, 37, of Fruit Cove, planned before the match to use a piece of metal to inflict some injury. Lane, treated and released at Shands Jacksonville hospital, told officers he wasn't sure what happened but that "this is a dangerous sport," according to a police report. Lane did not want to talk about the incident Tuesday, but a woman who said she was his girlfriend told The Florida Times-Union that the event was supposed to be hard-core but not violent. "It wasn't supposed to happen like that. But it did, and he got hurt pretty bad," said Meghan Hancock. Promoter Maurice Williams said he doesn't promote hard-core. "We wrestle. You won't see any barbed wire bats and chains." Williams said wrestlers will be checked closely before future bouts. "There will be nothing ever coming near Thunder again," he said. Witnesses, including a Brunswick, Ga., police officer who videotaped the match, said it looked like it went past a routine wrestling match. Another witness said it looked like one wrestler lost control when he thought the other was "intentionally trying to hurt him," according to the police report. A fan scooped up the metal object, which has not been recovered by police. Jail records Tuesday gave no information on Young's legal representation.

A year ago at this time, if anyone predicted Bradshaw would be the WWE champion a year later, most people would have laughed. So make a prediction for something that will happen in the WWE in the next year.

At this year's IWA-Mid South Ted Petty Invitational tournament, when Nate Webb enters and gets the crowd to do the wave: Samoa Joe: Hey look, it's like a WWE pay per view!

Come on now, they did the same thing last week with having Heidenreich get squashed for the live fans, they're not going to air it. And yes, I broke down and read the spoilers.

On 10/18/99 (okay, it's a day short of 5 years as I type this, so what?), Russo and Ferrara had their first episode of Nitro after jumping from the WWF to WCW to "save" that company. This thread is devoted to WCW from this point to its end. Feel free to comment about whatever you'd like. Results: 1) Evan Karagias and Juventud Guerrera go to a no contest when Bret Hart walks down in the middle of their match to do a mic segment. Sting comes down and they set up Sting/Bret for the world title later. 2) Disco Inferno d. Vampiro 3) Rey Misterio Jr. and Konnan d. Harlem Heat to become the WCW tag team champions 4) Meng d. Hugh Morrus 5) Berlyn d. Rick Steiner after interference by Berlyn's bodyguard. 6) Kidman d. David Flair after distraction by Torrie Wilson 7) Mona d. Madusa in an evening gown match 8) Sting d. Bret Hart to retain the WCW title after Lex Luger hit Bret in the leg with a bat, and Sting hooked the Scorpion Deathlock. 9) La Parka d. Buff Bagwell - after the match, Bagwell got on a headset and said "did I do good for you Russo? Is there anyone else you want to beat me?" Jeff Jarrett debuts and hits Bagwell with a guitar. 10) Chavo Guerrero d. Eddy Guerrero and Perry Saturn 11) Norman Smiley d. Horace Hogan 12) Goldberg d. Lex Luger -This show also features the Outsiders trying to sneak into the arena as the Villanos, Kimberly meeting Ric Flair in a hotel (after thinking she was going to see David Flair), the Filthy Animals beating up Flair and taking his clothes and Rolex, and plenty of women in their underwear.

I also wonder what would have happened in 1999 during Russo's first run if Hall, Goldberg, Jarrett, and Hart all hadn't gotten injured. Russo might never have been removed from power because he wouldn't have suggested Tank Abbott to win the title!

"What a damn injustice! Are you telling me I can use these coupons ONLY ON SMACKDOWN?" --JBL squashes Shannon Moore in a two minute match.

The Million Dollar Corporation (King Kong Bundy and "The Supreme Fighting Machine" Kama) Nation of Domination (Mark Henry and 300-pound D'Lo Brown) Would the Steiners count as hosses?

The April 10th, 2000 show was basically an "angle overkill" show to get the ball rolling for the future. Didn't have any wrestling, but it had a ton of angles thrown at you at once, kind of like Spring Stampede ended up being. I think they were doing fine/okayish until they put the title on Arquette. And the fact that the title changed hands NINE TIMES from Spring Stampede to the end of May...NINE TIMES is a month and a half, didn't really do much for the prestige of that title or making people care any about the angles. And of course the angle with Arquette didn't make SENSE, either...he beats Bischoff in a match so DDP gets a title shot at Jarrett. DDP beats Jarrett for the title. Arquette then wins the title from DDP in a tag match when he's on DDP'S TEAM, and then screws over DDP at Slamboree and gives the title back to Jarrett. So what the fuck was the point of all that? Oh well...I guess it wasn't much worse than the shit WCW did from January-March of 2000. That stuff sucked too.

Speaking of Starrcade 1997, let's not forget the storyline that since the main event was so important, JJ Dillon decided to put the names of all referees into a hat to pick out the ref for the main event, who ended up being Nick Patrick, of course. That's right...such an important decision, they PICKED A NAME OUT OF A HAT. Yeah.

"OH MY GOD, TAZZ! LOOK AT JBL! HE CAN'T BELIEVE IT! IT'S GOING TO BE JBL FACING THE UNDERTAKER AT SURVIVOR SERIES IN THE UNDERTAKER'S SPECIALITY MATCH! I DON'T THINK UNDERTAKER HAS EVER LOST A CASKET MATCH!" Cole expresses his disgust at Kurt Angle for hitting the Big Show in the back with a chair during Show's match against Luther Reigns.

The funny part is people (including me) going along with everything, including the seven-and-a-half word thing...

Not sure...but Abdullah and Cactus Jack did! And oh shit, everyone forgot the Faces of Fear (Meng and Barbarian).

Kidman at the Russo-returns Nitro in April of 2000, talking to Hulk Hogan: "You say I can't draw flies, but who would know better about drawing flies, than a pile of shit? So Hulk, that leaves on thing, I'm calling your ass out! It's time to see if your balls are as big as your bald-spot!".

Apparently this show got 180,000 - 190,000 buys, which is one of the lowest EVER for the WWE.

WWE Armageddon 2004 (AKA: Crash TV returns! Or, also known as "The Worst Show Ever~!") 1) Paul London d. Spike Dudley, Billy Kidman, and Chavo Guerrero at 14:05 with a shooting star press to Spike to win the WWE Cruiserweight championship. -Backstage, Heidenreich said he was going to end the Undertaker's career here tonight. As he was talking, Heidenreich is jumped from behind by Matt Morgan, and the two men brawled out of the building. -Luther Reigns came to the ring and made an open challenge. Scotty 2 Hotty answered it. 2) Luther Reigns d. Scotty 2 Hotty at 1:41 with his twisting neckbreaker. 3) Rey Misterio and Rob Van Dam d. Kenzo Suzuki and Rene Dupree via DQ at 7:53 when Dupree pulled the referee out of the ring after a five star frog splash and punched him to save the titles. -After the match, RVD got on the mic and said he and Rey were sick of all the bullshit on Smackdown, and that it was about time for things to change. -Matt Morgan and Heidenreich were brawling on the street when a car came flying around a corner. Morgan shoved Heidenreich in the path of the car and Heidenreich was hit! The car drove off as Morgan headed back to the arena. -Carlito Caribbean Cool told a sulking Scotty 2 Hotty that he wasn't cool, and that Scotty had been doing the same damn thing for years and was nothing but a loser. 4) Carlito Caribbean Cool d. John Cena at 15:38 when Scotty 2 Hotty interfered and hit Cena with some brass knux, allowing Carlito to get the pin. Scotty raised Carlito's hand, and Carlito told Scotty that now he was a bit cooler. -Matt Morgan told Teddy Long that he was taking Heidenreich's spot in the match against the Undertaker tonight! 5) Undertaker d. Matt Morgan via DQ at 3:29 when Morgan knocked out Taker with a shovel. Taker fought back and chokeslammed Morgan, but the lights went out and came back on, with Paul Bearer outside, in a wheel chair! Taker approached Bearer, who sprayed him in the face with something! Taker writhed in pain as Morgan recovered and powerbombed Taker. Morgan lifted Taker over his shoulder and took him away with Bearer following behind! -Tazz and Cole are speechless at all that is going on! -Kurt Angle comes to the ring for his match with the Big Show. Angle says that before Show gets to face him tonight, he has to get through Mark Jindrak. 6) Big Show d. Mark Jindrak at 4:33 with a chokeslam off the top rope. -Angle immediately attacks, leading to... 7) Kurt Angle d. Big Show with the Angle Slam after ring announcer Torrie Wilson turned on Show and hit him in the head with a lead pipe! -After the match, Angle welcomed the newest member of Team Angle, Torrie Wilson! 8) Booker T d. JBL at 19:58 to become the new WWE champion after Rey Misterio and RVD interfered, with RVD hitting a five star and Booker hitting an axe kick for the pin. -After the match, Booker, RVD, and Rey celebrated in the ring and said this was a "New Dawn" for the WWE. -At a graveyard, Matt Morgan tosses Undertaker into a grave! Morgan starts to bury Undertaker as Paul Bearer screeches about how great this is as we fade to black! -This sets up new storylines, with Undertaker an-

Figured I might as well start a thread with the Dayton show being tonight. Here are the lineups: 10/15, Dayton, OH =============== Mick Foley Will Bring His Ring Of Hardcore To Dayton!!! Six Man Tag Team War CM Punk, Ace Steel, & ??? (Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat's choice of anybody else on the show) vs. Austin Aries, Alex Shelley & Jack Evans World Title Grudge Match Samoa Joe defends vs. Rocky Romero of The Rottweilers Special Challenge Match- As A Result Of Last Time In Dayton CM Punk vs. Homicide Tag Team Grudge Match Dan Maff & BJ Whitmer vs. The Carnage Crew of Loc & Devito Rematch From Last Dayton Show Chad Collyer vs. Jay Lethal Four Corner Survival Nigel McGuinness vs. Matt Stryker vs. Roderick Strong vs. Josh Daniels Bonus Attraction Match Trent Acid vs. Matt Sydal Tag Team Challenge Jimmy Jacobs & Delirious vs. Angel Dust & Dixie with Lacey & Becky 10/16 Chicago Ridge =============== World Title Match- Rematch Of "World Title Classic" Samoa Joe defends vs. CM Punk Foley/Steamboat Challenge Mick Foley's hardcore team of Dan Maff & BJ Whitmer vs. Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat's pure wrestling team of Nigel McGuinness & Chad Collyer First Time Ever Rottweilers vs. Generation Next Tag Match Homicide & Rocky Romero vs. Roderick Strong & Jack Evans I Quit Match- Rematch Of Last Chicago Show Jimmy Jacobs vs. Alex Shelley Four Corner Survival Trent Acid vs. Matt Sydal with Daizee Haze vs. Josh Daniels vs. Angel Dust with Becky Bonus Attraction Match Jay Lethal vs. Delirious Special Challenge Match Matt Stryker vs. Dixie Plus more with The Carnage Crew, Dave Prazak and others!!!

Iceberg and Tank from NWA Wildside Brad Bradley and Ryan Boz from IWA-Mid South The Oddities (Giant Silva and Kurrgan)

What was the deal with the whole nWo parody of the Horsemen? I read somewhere that Flair and Arn walked out of the show after the nWo did that?