Hoff

After Austin threw the IC belt into a river in late '97... Vince: "So what am I supposed to do with you? Should I fire you?" Rocky: "The Rock thinks you should fire him." Vince: "Stay out of this. You stay out of this."

All part of the work, my friends. Matt's all "depressed" now.

FRIDGE box!!! Hi-LARIOUS~!

Allow me to simplify: Because it might help his board to be run much better. Seriously, we're never going to know if this works if we don't try it, but if we do try it, and it doesn't work, well, hey, now we know. But it seems like a really simple, logical idea. No one's trying to take power away from admin, or whoever technically owns the board these days, and to be honest, we couldn't if we wanted to. But there just might be a better way of doing things.

Five point questions: 1) The winner of the 2005 Royal Rumble will be: Matt Hardy 2) Who will be the "Ironman" of the 2005 Royal Rumble? Rey Mysterio 3) Who will last the shortest amount of time in the ring? Funaki 4) Who will get the most eliminations? Bobby Lashley 5) Who will be the last man eliminated? Randy Orton 6) Will the winner be from Smackdown or Raw? Smackdown Three point questions...pick the man who will be in the Royal Rumble the LATEST (not who lasts the longest) out of the two choices below: 7) Gregory Helms or Orlando Jordan 8) JBL or Shawn Michaels 9) Matt Hardy or Shelton Benjamin 10) Bobby Lashley or Kane 11) Chris Benoit or HHH 12) Chavo Guerrero or Rey Mysterio 13) Rob Van Dam or The Boogeyman 14) Randy Orton or Booker T 15) Chris Masters or Carlito 16) Johnny Nitro or Joey Mercury One point questions: 17) Who will draw #'s 1-4? (One point for each correct person) 1. John Cena 2. Chavo Guerrero 3. JBL 4. Kid Kash 18) Who will be the last four men in the ring? (One point for each correct person) Matt Hardy Rey Mysterio Randy Orton HHH 19) Who will be the last RAW superstar eliminated? HHH 20) Who will be the last Smackdown superstar eliminated? Randy Orton 21) Who will draw #'s 27-30 (One point for each correct person) 27. HHH 28. Kane 29. Johnny Nitro 30. Randy Orton 22) True or False: We will see a Boogeyman/Undertaker showdown. False 23) True or False: We will see a surprise return sometime during the Rumble. False 24) True or False: Somebody in the Rumble match will blade. False 25) True or False: Vince McMahon will interfere in the Rumble. True TIEBREAKER: 54:17

My problem with this isn't that he's going to be bisexual; it's that the angle is bisexuality. This could be a very interesting character thing, but they'll use it to make a lot of "funny" gay jokes. Actually, this really doesn't make much sense for a wrestling character, even if they did it well.

Maybe that post was under this guy's RADAR~! zing

So, wrestling. I've been a fan for nigh on twenty years. Most of us here at TSM are in a similar boat. And, in twenty years, I've seen a lot of weird stuff go down. Giant, dancing chickens. A haf-black Roddy Piper. The Boogeyman. WTF? But, through it all, the WWF, WCW, ECW, AWA, NWA, TNA, and NAACP have found ways to stay fresh and entertaining. Last Saturday, however, I was really wondering if the WWE had what it took anymore. What a difference a week makes. Say what you will about Adam Copeland and Kurt Angle, but in the past six days the foundations of the WWE have been rocked. Last Saturday we had two champions who had reigned for over nine months. Two men who hadn't changed a bit in that time. Two men who were seen as unbeatable, unstoppable. As of today, one has been beaten, and one has been stopped. John Cena and Dave Batista no longer hold gold, and in their places are two big surprises. Edge has been in the WWE since the summer of 1998. He came in with a lot of hype and a lot of expectations, and it's a matter of some debate as to how well he had fulfilled them. He's been a fifty-time tag champ, as well as a singles star on the cusp of greatness. Through the years, he has battled injury, and come back time and time again, but he has never been on top of the mountain. That all changed at this Sunday's New Year's Revolution show, where -- surprisingly -- the WWE followed a long-term angle to its logical conclusion. Edge cashed in his guaranteed, "money-in-the-bank" title shot following what is, undisputedly, the most grueling match in the WWE, and won the WWE Championship in controversial fashion. Since then, more fans have tuned into Raw, and the entire internet community is abuzz. People are talking. Meanwhile, Smackdown gets a blessing in disguise. Batista was doing a great job as champion, by all accounts; he was a solid draw and a recognizable icon. Yet the status quo seemed firmly in place, and unshakeable until Wrestlemania. Suddenly, a torn tricep muscle shakes the title from the Animal, and into the capable hands of Kurt Angle. It may not make sense to see one of Raw's top guys on Smackdown, but the WWE showed amazing perception by letting Angle play babyface against the mostrous Mark Henry, climaxing in a shocking World Heavyweight Championship win for the veteran. And on the internet, the people have been talking. However, the internet can talk itself blue, and it really doesn't matter a great deal. What matters is the feeling. I don't know about anyone else, but to me, this is the closest we've been to the Attitude Era since, well, the Attitude Era. The most important factor in that feeling? It's the old slogan: anything can happen in the WWE. In the glory days of Austin, Rocky, Hunter and Foley, we knew that a title could change hands at a moment's notice; a major star could be born or be destroyed; the course of events could change at the blink of an eye. Vince Russo called it "crash TV," but it's more than that. It's not chaos; it's controlled chaos. WCW learned this lesson the hard way, but the WWE seems to be getting it before it's too late. The common thread of this past week is that everything has made sense. Cena's character has acknowledged the boos. Of course he would! Edge used his title shot at the single most opportune time. Kurt Angle went to where the getting was good. JBL defended his territory. Okay, so we still have Mama Benjamin, and the Boogeyman. But at the top level, the guys you talk about at the water cooler, things are captivating again. It's only a week, but as they say, a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step. The next few months, specifically the Royal Rumble and Wrestlemania, will be make or break. But if they do things right, and stay intriguing without going insane, it could become a very, very good time to be a wrestling fan. Hope springs eternal. -Hoff

Why is a vote such a bad idea? Representative democracy has worked kinda well in the States for a couple years, here. And if the current mods are worth their salt, they'll be reelected. And, as stated previously, if we vote for mods, and they fail, we'll have no one to blame for it but ourselves. The admins will have power to remove people from office, anyway. Can it hurt to try it?

The bribes have already begun. This is gonna be one dirty campaign.

That's just a Trillian error. I get that shit all the time when it shuts down suddenly. Off of memory bitch.

Some things: 1. Wait, so does nobody really like niskie? I thought that was a joke. I mean, I like him. But I like pretty much everyone. I'm even coming around on ALina a little bit. *shrug* 2. I'm a giant whore; I've filled out every "get to know you" thing on these boards, posted dozens of pictures, and discussed my personal life. But that's all me. When you post that kind of info for someone else, you've got to know the risks with it. I'm not blaming Carny (although I'm certainly not NOT blaming him), but I hope he and everyone else realizes that maybe this sort of thread isn't the best idea. We'd LIKE to believe we're all mature and we can trust each other, but we're wrong on both counts.

Oh, snap, that's right, the UFC guy! Yeah, good call. Oy.

Yeah, but you live down there. Guys like you and I, from the dirrty south, we've grown accustomed to this kind of thing.

Be better if it was Pepsi.... It does sound good.

It's gonna be Orton or Rey. Or my mad dark horse pick of VEEE-ONNNE-AHHH, of course.

Comment was more directed at the fifteen people chiming in with "I use the normal skin." Okay, we get it. Not a skin issue.

Agreed. Tazz has gone from a Brooklyn cliche machine to a polished color man. Cole still makes his foibles, but Tazz makes them look good. Not to short Cole, though, as he has gotten a lot better.

X makes a good point, it's not as though one is blowing the other away. For what it's worth, I think they're both cute, not that they're both ugly.

Kari reminds me of Avril Lavigne. With bigger titties. I think Jessi's cuter, though. Good luck with that, Carny.

Okay, it's CLEARLY not the skins that were causing the problem.

Heavens, no.

That's just a trillian error. I get that shit all the time. That's not even the full line. If you can't do it right, don't.

Yeah, being a team player never got anyone anywhere. Just ask The Rock... If you're over, you're over, and if you're good you're good, belt or no belt. Cena'll live.